All Time NBA Players Thread - No Jordan vs. Lebron Debate Allowed

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#829
zjcvols said:
I meant Dirk second team over Durant
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It's a tough call in a vacuum, but they didn't pick any two forwards on each team, it's specifically a PF and an SF. Dirk isn't really a small forward at all.

And the position-specific nature of it is also why Garnett didn't make it and D12 did. If it's positionless, it probably goes something like this:

1st team unchanged

2nd team:
Dirk
KD
Giannis
Shaq
Wade/Kawhi/CP3

3rd team:
Wade/Kawhi/CP3
Garnett
Nash
Harden

And hell, maybe crazy but I'd personally rather see Ray Allen there than Harden. He's not an MVP, and some of his best years were in the 90s, but he's a player I'd rather have and has multiple titles and is one of the few guys ever who was good right away, became a superstar, and then transitioned to a great role player who was happy with his role. At no point in his career was he not contributing to winning.
 
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#833
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apevol said:
this is him telling the stat guy in slc the last pass counted for two assists

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Stockton's home/road splits were pretty normal in terms of how disparate they were, but yeah, hone town statisticians love to give you assists when they can.

Steals should be impossible to fake, tho
 
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n_huffhines said:
Yeah, Drexler's steal numbers may have been accurate. Who knows how many steals MJ was actually getting?

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sports.yahoo.com

A closer look at Michael Jordan's 1988 DPOY award raises questions about its validity. Has LeBron James been chasing a ghost?

New research reveals Jordan's Defensive Player of the Year season likely included home-biased stats.
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Still probably a lot, but I think that the scorers definitely beefed up stats. Same thing's probably happened to every superstar in the NBA, ever.
 
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#835
Peradox1K said:
Still probably a lot, but I think that the scorers definitely beefed up stats. Same thing's probably happened to every superstar in the NBA, ever.
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The onky stats you can kinda fudge with are rebounds and assists.

Every game is on TV now. You will not get away with steals/turnovers counts that don't add up. Too easy to catch
 
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n_huffhines said:
The onky stats you can kinda fudge with are rebounds and assists.

Every game is on TV now. You will not get away with steals/turnovers counts that don't add up. Too easy to catch
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aren't the way assists even counted different to eras like the 60s?
 
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