All the Kiffin hate really is...

#76
#76
I'm sending PC a Christmas card. Bless that man. Sucked getting dumped but now that those warts cleared up I'm glad Layla's gone.

But Kiffin is still a coat tail rider who is going to have to start walking real fast. Oh and he does a bad impersonation of a stand up guy now that he's out there.
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#77
#77
Why do people care that people still care about Kiffin? I'm not sayin I'm just sayin but I'm just sayin.
 
#79
#79
Have to agree with the others. The way he built us up and to leave the way he did and all the crap with the recruits and the trouble that has yet to get to us. I also agree with the op about taking his dream job, but its the fashion in which he left UT that truly showed his colors
 
#80
#80
I can't even blame Kiffin anymore. All of the blame belongs squarely on the shoulders of Mike "Hambone" Hamilton. It was a farcical machination from start (the Fulmer extention) to finish.
 
#81
#81
Orange_Crush said:
I love how you conveniently left out the parts about him and Ogre trying to take our early recruits with them.

Lane is where he needs to be. We'll wave when his sinking ship passes us on the way down. We have the coach we need, and we're heading in the right direction faster than we were a year ago.
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This:salute:
 
#82
#82
Lame kitten was a douch bag then he is a douch bag now and will always be a douch bag :moon2::moon2:
 
#83
#83
The timing of his departure should tell everyone here what he thinks of Tennessee and anyone or anything associated with it. If leaving a school 3 weeks before signing day doesn't say F------u then i don't know what does. No class is all that was.
 
#84
#84
Only read the title. I'm just sick of people still starting threads about the guy. If you want to fine but do it in another forum. Please for the love of GOD!
 
#86
#86
crunchimusmaximus said:
unwarranted. All he did was stay loyal to HIS team. I hated it at the time for our program, but honestly...if you were a HC at another university in another conference and the UT job opened up and you were considered a candidate, would you not go after it???
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Not if I had explicit and implicit unfulfilled commitments. I have passed on a desirable job in a very similar situation. I have seen others with character and integrity do it. Some people put doing what is "right" ahead of doing what is "right for me".

That said, it is looking better for UT right now than for Kiffin.

That would be your ultimate dream.
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It is a great test of character when you do the right thing and turn your back on something you really want... He, unsurprisingly, failed.
That is all that he did. Anyone who hates him is a complete hypocrite IMHO. All of you would have done exactly the same hating in his shoes and if you didn't I would have to question your loyalty as a Vol.
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He didn't go to USC. He was a coach there once. As far as you and I know, he was not a lifelong fan of USC. He's not from CA.

So two things. #1 some of us have already placed commitment and obligation ahead of desires. #2... your argument has no basis.
If anyone should be blamed in all of this, it should be Carroll for jumping ship like he did when he knew the shi^ was going to hit the fan. Kiffin really is getting a bad rep.
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No he isn't. Not at all. What he did was low class and self-centered in the very, very, very extreme.

However, his move looks alot like a mistake right now. He lost his team this year and faces 3 years of NCAA sanctions. At the end of it, USC may fire him to get their "dream coach" especially if Monte isn't around then.

I'm glad he believes in "karma". Some may be coming his way soon.

If I was a HC at another school...my true loyalties would still go to UT any day.
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If you would put what you want ahead of doing what's right then I wouldn't want you as UT's coach.
It's about chasing your dream.
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No. It is about character and putting values and commitments ahead of selfishness. It isn't about not having dreams. But the pursuit of a dream is just as important as the attainment of it. How you do it is just as meaningful as whether you make it.
 
#87
#87
Kiffin is a fraud. He is gone, and I am glad he is now USC's problem. I really don't care beyond that. I hated USC before and I hate them now. Nothing has really changed.

With that said, I firmly believe that Dooley will have a better record than Kiffin over the next few seasons, and that Dooley will still be the coach at UT long after Kiffin has been fired at USC.
 
#89
#89
When it happened I didn't hate him, I totally understood he wanted to go back to USC where he coached before. I even defended him when people bashed him, the reason I started hating him is when he and Ogre was calling UT EE's and telling them not to enroll In class and calling other recruits to get them to decommit and come to USC. IMO that's warranted hate!!
 
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Cartervol said:
The timing of his departure should tell everyone here what he thinks of Tennessee and anyone or anything associated with it. If leaving a school 3 weeks before signing day doesn't say F------u then i don't know what does. No class is all that was.
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Be careful. CDD left just before signing day as well.
 
#94
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Stig said:
Be careful. CDD left just before signing day as well.
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After being there for 3 years, making marked improvements in their recruiting and facilities, and making no bones about the fact that he was not long term there. He committed to coming in, doing all he could to build them up, and then leave when the better job came his way.

Kiffin made promises about re-building the program, recruiting the best players, hiring the best coaches, beating the big boys, and winning championships at UT. He had some positive effects on recruiting but the true impact is debateable. What credit does Fulmer get for 09? What credit does Dooley get for 10?

He had most UT fans fooled enough to allow him to diss the school, fanbase, traditions, and history because of the great things he was going to do. In the end, the net contribution of Lane Kiffin to UT football is 7 wins and 6 losses.

Dooley delivered to La Tech what he sold them. Kiffn way oversold and way underdelivered.
 
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#95
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sjt18 said:
After being there for 3 years, making marked improvements in their recruiting and facilities, and making no bones about the fact that he was not long term there. He committed to coming in, doing all he could to build them up, and then leave when the better job came his way.

Kiffin made promises about re-building the program, recruiting the best players, hiring the best coaches, beating the big boys, and winning championships at UT. He had some positive effects on recruiting but the true impact is debateable. What credit does Fulmer get for 09? What credit does Dooley get for 10?

He had most UT fans fooled enough to allow him to diss the school, fanbase, traditions, and history because of the great things he was going to do. In the end, the net contribution of Lane Kiffin to UT football is 7 wins and 6 losses.

Dooley delivered to La Tech what he sold them. Kiffn way oversold and way underdelivered.
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Well put. I agree 100%. I am not and was not a Kiff supporter. But the comment I replied to suggest character flaws based soley on the fact Kiff left just before NSD. CDD did the same thing. The only difference is he did it for us instead of to us.
 
#97
#97
Diceman said:
Oooohhh, I'd never thought about it that way. NOW I see why I shouldn't hate or dislike Kiffin. I've never seen those points brought up before. Thanks for enlightening us with this brand new perspective.
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This.

In all honesty, all these Kiffin threads are a bit.....unwarranted.
 
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sjt18 said:
Dooley delivered to La Tech what he sold them. Kiffn way oversold and way underdelivered.
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And that, my friends, is the story of Little Lane Kiffin's coaching career to date. Ask Al, ask Miike, and now ask Pat.
 
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crunchimusmaximus said:
unwarranted. All he did was stay loyal to HIS team. I hated it at the time for our program, but honestly...if you were a HC at another university in another conference and the UT job opened up and you were considered a candidate, would you not go after it???

That would be your ultimate dream. That is all that he did. Anyone who hates him is a complete hypocrite IMHO. All of you would have done exactly the same hating in his shoes and if you didn't I would have to question your loyalty as a Vol. If anyone should be blamed in all of this, it should be Carroll for jumping ship like he did when he knew the shi^ was going to hit the fan. Kiffin really is getting a bad rep.

If I was a HC at another school...my true loyalties would still go to UT any day. It's about chasing your dream. Kiffin just has been incredibly lucky in landing his dream job so early. With all that being said, things are as they should be. Kiffin has his dream job and we have the right staff and Hc in place to be in the NC hunt year after year. Overall, I am happy with how things went and really like Dooley. But at the same time, it's silly to hate or even dislike Kiffin. Anyone who gets under Meyer's skin is okay in my book.
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Shouldn't you be having a dream about Scroggins committing to the Vols?
 
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