Albert Haynesworth rants on AD hire

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Grizzlymint said:
Every single K-state fan is beyond happy to be rid of him. That does not look like a good hire to me
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:lolabove:"Every?".........really, boy! some posters take a few fans and run the Every or ALL word......I don't believe you know every fan.
 
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This thread looks like a protest rally with a crowd of social justice warriors. Heavily uninformed and emotional enough to make up for it.

How on earth do people get so worked up over a position filled which they know so little about?
 
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MeandMrsJones said:
This got 12 likes? So the answer to one question is the administration has a dozen self serving moles here in the nation.

I have no problem with the hire itself. I just think its a shame that the disrespectful way it was handled was very ivory tower Vanderbiltish BS.

She knew what message she was sending by publicly humiliating David Blackburn by not even interviewing him after not taking him out of consideration prior to the actual hiring. Same goes for Coach Fulmer. Albert is unfortunately spot on.

She effectively communicated her message that UT athletics is the little sister to academics. However, she also commucated that you are secondary here in Knoxvile. So if you want to enjoy a school where winning at EVERYTHING With UT on the jersey is equally important to the reputation and financial well being of our great university as research and test scores. You need to take your donations and loyalties to a university that emphasizes athletics because now that I'm here that is not the case.

We've seen this movie here in Nashville already.It's titled VANDERBILT'S IVORY TOWER THE CLAY STAPELTON STORY :How to Destroy the history and winning tradition of your athletic teams to look like an academic powerhouse.
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If you think sports is supposed to be just as important as academics, you should probably stick to following pro sports.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
Not surprised by this and I'd expect more of it from Fulmer era players unless Fulmer comes out and gives a full throated endorsement of Currie. I think it's a rather mysterious hire that could bode a lot of ways. One way to look at this is they wanted to bring in a cold blooded hatchet man knowing that three of the top 4 sports in the department could be in for changes at the top.
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I don't know if anyone has mention this obvious observation......but Fulmer has not be hired for any other positions since his firing. Now, everyone knows that in the "inner circle" there are plenty of people who really know what is going on within the politics of P5 schools. If CPF was a commodity......why has he not be able to get an AD job ANYWHERE to gain some experience, and be ready for this position? Just like his last few years, he lazy and feels he doesn't need to gain any additional experience to get the AD position.......he just thinks because he was player and coach......UT should just gift wrap this job with a box of $$$$ and let the good ol'boy regime roll.........no, CPF is past his window for any serious consideration.....but that is just me.:rock:
 
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I have nothing against coach Fulmer. He brought us a national title and should be respected by Tennessee fans. That said he has no experience whatsoever as an AD. Most of those clamoring for him to be hired as AD have no idea what is required to run an athletic department. I have no idea what Fulmer's feelings are but IMO he should be honored to be considered for such a position and know just how high he is regarded given his lack of experience. I'd rather have hired Blackburn but Currie does look better on paper as a candidate.
 
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JVol76 said:
Really? You mean the same hands that helped put it into the hole that it is just now showing signs of climbing out of? There was zero reason to hire Fulmer to run an entire athletic department.
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What did Fulmer have to do with the horrible hiring decisions that were made after he was gone? I don't believe he should have been fired, but regardless, who were hired in the years following his firing had a lot more to do with how long it has taken to return to prominence than anything that he did.

It's now 2017, and the last 10-win season that the Vols have had was in 2006. With Fulmer in charge.

I'm on the fence as far as whether Fulmer would be a good UT AD, I'm just disagreeing that he played a role in why it has taken so long to climb out of this football hole.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
If you think sports is supposed to be just as important as academics, you should probably stick to following pro sports.
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If you think Sports should not be equally important as academics then you need to go follow the Ivy League!

You must be the smart kid in gym that cant play everybody else hit with the ball when the coaches weren't looking!

So why shouldn't sports be equal. For that matter why shouldn't All university programs be treated equal?

Kentucky, Alabama, Duke, have great academics and they certainly agree that athletics are equally important!
 
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MeandMrsJones said:
If you think Sports should not be equally important as academics then you need to go follow the Ivy League!

You must be the smart kid in gym that cant play everybody else hit with the ball when the coaches weren't looking!

So why shouldn't sports be equal. For that matter why shouldn't All university programs be treated equal?

Kentucky, Alabama, Duke, have great academics and they certainly agree that athletics are equally important!
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You're completely overplaying this angle.

The problem is that the sidewalk alumni don't even care if they hold classes as long as they win. Meanwhile the people that actually have degrees would like to think their diploma means something.
 
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MeandMrsJones said:
If you think Sports should not be equally important as academics then you need to go follow the Ivy League!

You must be the smart kid in gym that cant play everybody else hit with the ball when the coaches weren't looking!

So why shouldn't sports be equal. For that matter why shouldn't All university programs be treated equal?

Kentucky, Alabama, Duke, have great academics and they certainly agree that athletics are equally important!
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Rule 1: At an academic institution academics IS ALWAYS primary to sports or any other non-academic interest.

Rule 2: If you have any doubt about priorities, refer to Rule 1.
 
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MeandMrsJones said:
If you think Sports should not be equally important as academics then you need to go follow the Ivy League!

You must be the smart kid in gym that cant play everybody else hit with the ball when the coaches weren't looking!

So why shouldn't sports be equal. For that matter why shouldn't All university programs be treated equal?

Kentucky, Alabama, Duke, have great academics and they certainly agree that athletics are equally important!
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Credibility is shot when you put Alabama and Kentucky on the same level as Duke academically.

Athletics should not be above academics in an educational environment.

But it should be understood that without the achievements of the football program and General Neyland, the academic side would have continued to be funded at an extremely poor level by Nashville as a consequence of the regional bitterness left behind by the Civil War in Tennessee.

General Neyland created a high tide that lifted all boats, academics included, on The Hill. Those who used to run the University of Tennessee, from Dougherty to Holt to Reese to Johnson, understood that history very well and gave the athletic side a proper environment to compete in.

We have lacked that leadership and understanding of the relationship between athletics and academics at Tennessee for decades now.

None of that, however, is the fault of Mr. Currie. I wish him all the good fortune in the world. Considering the people who run our University, he'll be needing all of that and more.
 
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Heard Albert on the radio today. Clarified to say he had no animus at all for Currie, wished him well, is a Vol and always will be....just felt and continues to feel that Coach Fulmer should've been given the opportunity and would've done a great job
 
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From the world wide web...

Former Tennessee football coach Phil Fulmer reportedly was led to believe that he had the Tennessee athletic director job a day before it went to someone else.

The Vols on Tuesday named John Currie their athletic director. Currie, 45, comes from Kansas State after a previous stint at Tennessee. He and Fulmer apparently had some friction prior to Fulmer being pushed out of his job as the head football coach of the Vols in 2008.

On Wednesday, Sports Radio WNML reported that Fulmer spoke with a search committee member on Monday and was led to believe he had the job. However, they say the school’s chancellor decided Fulmer was not suitable because he wanted someone who had AD experience, which Fulmer does not.

Currie reportedly pushed for Fulmer’s firing in 2008, so Fulmer joined the AD pursuit to try keeping Currie from getting the gig. That obviously did not work.

Fulmer has not coached since 2008. He was inducted into the College Football Hall of Fame in 2012
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Fulmer is the ultimate faux-sympathetic figure. Part of you wants to feel sorry for him on the surface, because I do think he loves the University, but the more you find out about the particulars of situations he's been involved in you see that he's a pretty conniving guy.
 
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IknoxvolsI said:
You know, that is the truest of statements! Bama hired Battle as well. Now, Dickey was before my time but I have to say I never really liked him and I think that probably derives from being told about the Fla deal of the 60's or 70's. However, I do say he did a very good job as AD.
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Dickey was one of UT's best ADs....ever.
 
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05_never_again said:
Fulmer is the ultimate faux-sympathetic figure. Part of you wants to feel sorry for him on the surface, because I do think he loves the University, but the more you find out about the particulars of situations he's been involved in you see that he's a pretty conniving guy.
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Johnny major's back agrees 100%
 
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butchna said:
The Chancellor is not male...good research. :thumbsup:
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Currie may not be the right guy, but being instrumental in firing Fulmer is not something which should count against him.
 
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