Alabama blocking grad transfer from talking to us

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bamawriter said:
This is from a couple days before:

BamaInsider.com - Alabama grants release to Maurice Smith

I don't know if the SEC has to approve the waiver after the school grants it. But either way, Bama gave Smith a full release.
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I see your point, but based on everything I've read in multiple articles, either Saban did it because he knew he was losing or they granted it after the SEC told them to. And apparently Saban was still salty about it:


SEC commissioner says he made right decision letting Maurice Smith transfer to Georgia | AL.com


I have no animosity toward Saban, but imo, to frame this as he just changed his mind on the kid out of kindness is disingenuous and not factually supported.
 
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Snakebrown13 said:
I see your point, but based on everything I've read in multiple articles, either Saban did it because he knew he was losing or they granted it after the SEC told them to. And apparently Saban was still salty about it:


SEC commissioner says he made right decision letting Maurice Smith transfer to Georgia | AL.com


I have no animosity toward Saban, but imo, to frame this as he just changed his mind on the kid out of kindness is disingenuous and not factually supported.
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Oh, I'm confident that Saban got guilted into it. I said so at the time. He was getting killed by the media.

I just think it's complete nonsense for the SEC to talk about the benefit of the player when its their rule. If they think blocking a transfer is wrong (and it is), then they need to kill the rule that blocks transfers.
 
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bamawriter said:
Oh, I'm confident that Saban got guilted into it. I said so at the time. He was getting killed by the media.

I just think it's complete nonsense for the SEC to talk about the benefit of the player when its their rule. If they think blocking a transfer is wrong (and it is), then they need to kill the rule that blocks transfers.
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Agreed. They should either stand by the rule or change/amend the rule so it's official on how to handle it. I too believe that Grad transfers shouldn't have restrictions, but for it to require special SEC office intervention every time is asking for trouble.
 
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bamawriter said:
No, there is an SEC rule prohibiting any player from transferring inside the conference, grad or not. It requires a waiver from the original school. That's why Saban is allowed to block Kennedy.
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So if Saban has the last word I'm not holding my breath.
 
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jpope9 said:
Then why don't they throw such a fit when a coach goes to a rival? I'm pretty sure the coach will bring more knowledge about playbooks and schemes than a backup center.
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Being able to block transfers from certain schools has been happening for years. Most coaches won’t let players transfer within conference. It has to do with their scholarship agreement they sign.

Coaches is much different.
 
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RavinDave said:
So if Saban has the last word I'm not holding my breath.
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That's part of the issue - according to the rule he should be able to stop it, but like in that last case the SEC can override him, basically forcing him to release the player. Which they've said they'd do again for Grad transfers, so I expect it to be overruled again.
 
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Snakebrown13 said:
That's part of the issue - according to the rule he should be able to stop it, but like in that last case the SEC can override him, basically forcing him to release the player. Which they've said they'd do again for Grad transfers, so I expect it to be overruled again.
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Thanks Snake, I guess we'll see what happens.
 
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bamawriter said:
I'm in favor of letting the kid go where he wants. But I don't get Sankey's statement. If that's what he believes, why even have a rule that prevents transfers within the conference? That makes absolutely no sense.
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It does make sense IF the idea is college football is actually about encouraging kids to do well in school. If a youngster does the work, graduates early, I believe what is being communicated is they'll give kids like that options others do not get. I agree with it actually. What surprises me is the amount of kids that do graduate that are willing to leave the Tide. It seems high, but I have no actual data to make that claim. It could be due to the high level of talent there ready to be claimed.
 
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Saban, despite all of the winning, is still a little man fighting the little man syndrome.
 
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volfan102455 said:
If this were the other way around, most on here would be arguing the other way. lol
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No butch, we wouldn't. Most people on here have already said they don't care, and as a case in point do you think no one has transferred from Tennessee? If they don't want to be a Vol we don't want them
 
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Amazing that the QB out of Ohio State was given his release as a graduate transfer and all you hear about is which team is going to pick him up, LSU, maybe Florida? He too was given restriction about moving about in the B1G. Yet, the restrictions given by Urban Meyer has gone under-reported compared to the national headlines being made by Nick Saban and Alabama. Folks, let me say it again, "it's good to be king."
 
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TUSKtimes said:
Amazing that the QB out of Ohio State was given his release as a graduate transfer and all you hear about is which team is going to pick him up, LSU, maybe Florida? He too was given restriction about moving about in the B1G. Yet, the restrictions given by Urban Meyer has gone under-reported compared to the national headlines being made by Nick Saban and Alabama. Folks, let me say it again, "it's good to be king."
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Well, Nick Saban is king. You're just a troll on another team's boards. :)
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
Because Greg Sankey alone does not == the SEC.

Seems to me he advocates more flexibility in application of the SEC-internal transfer rules. Greg seems to be saying, rather than have a "never" or "always" rule, let's be more open to consideration of the totality of circumstances surrounding the student. Case-by-case basis.

Of course, he has to get the 14 member institutions to agree. That hasn't happened yet.

Also, Sankey doesn't say all SEC-internal transfers should automatically be allowed when the young man has already graduated. Doesn't look like he's willing to go quite that far. But it does sound like he'd probably come down in the young man's favor in this particular instance.

We shall see.
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I think that is exactly what he said. Not going all the way back to the front of the thread but didn't Sankey say that when your obligation to the school academically is done you should be able to go anywhere you want?
 
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You forgot one key piece. Its not always good to be King. You are a sitting duck. Your enemy is coming for you, and history has shown, King's don't live long.
 
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