Ala. Sports Ed. comments on JC

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Mobile Register Sports Editor Randy Kennedy commented that he could not understand how or why Cromp is a QB in the SEC. He was part of the press contingent at Neyland Saturday night.

Don't shoot the messenger. :)
 
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Wonder how many practices he has seen? He hasn't had the opportunity to compare JC to others but, hey, why let that stop him from talking
 
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JohnWardForever said:
Mobile Register Sports Editor Randy Kennedy commented that he could not understand how or why Cromp is a QB in the SEC. He was part of the press contingent at Neyland Saturday night.

Don't shoot the messenger.:machgun: :)
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Because he won the position over Stephens, real hard to figure out.
 
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The question is not whether Crompton is playing at the level of an SEC QB (he isn't), the question is whether we have anyone else on the team who is better. I would imagine that the sports editor from a paper in Mobile doesn't have much opportunity to evaluate our alternatives.

I simply can't believe that CLK is sticking with Crompton because he's worried about scaring off recruits. If a hot shot high school QB is scared off by an incumbent Nick Freakin' Stephens with one year of eligibility left, we don't want him. With the public and team pressure that is mounting over starting Crompton, there is every incentive for CLK to put in Stephens to say to everyone "look, you asked for Stephens, and you got him - happy now?" The only conclusion I can draw is that he really must believe Stephens is worse than Crompton, and that putting him in will actually make us worse. I know it doesn't seem possible, but he really must believe that is what will happen, and if we do that, there's no going back to Crompton down the road.
 
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Volinnooga said:
Wonder how many practices he has seen? He hasn't had the opportunity to compare JC to others but, hey, why let that stop him from talking
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Evidently practice doesn't count. I'll trade all those "perfect practices" for a W vs a quality opponent.

We all know Cromp is great in practice---just can't translate.

A surgeon in training may be terrific working on a cadaver, but when a life is on the line----------------whoops------slips-----sorry---
 
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What if CLK puts in Nick Stephens and he gets an ACL or similar injury? Where will we be next spring? We would do good to have enough quaterbacks to hold a practice. I don't know if this is why he's not putting in Nick or not but he probably knew this year would suck and doesn't want to jeopardize next season.
 
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Dudley Smith said:
The question is not whether Crompton is playing at the level of an SEC QB (he isn't), the question is whether we have anyone else on the team who is better. I would imagine that the sports editor from a paper in Mobile doesn't have much opportunity to evaluate our alternatives.

I simply can't believe that CLK is sticking with Crompton because he's worried about scaring off recruits. If a hot shot high school QB is scared off by an incumbent Nick Freakin' Stephens with one year of eligibility left, we don't want him. With the public and team pressure that is mounting over starting Crompton, there is every incentive for CLK to put in Stephens to say to everyone "look, you asked for Stephens, and you got him - happy now?" The only conclusion I can draw is that he really must believe Stephens is worse than Crompton, and that putting him in will actually make us worse. I know it doesn't seem possible, but he really must believe that is what will happen, and if we do that, there's no going back to Crompton down the road.
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Put Nick in---I have seen all I want of JC. I have nightmares already. Season is done---let NS play.
 
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Orange Maniac said:
What if CLK puts in Nick Stephens and he gets an ACL or similar injury? Where will we be next spring? We would do good to have enough quaterbacks to hold a practice. I don't know if this is why he's not putting in Nick or not but he probably knew this year would suck and doesn't want to jeopardize next season.
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Wow---just when I thought I'd heard all the theories.
 
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JohnWardForever said:
Put Nick in---I have seen all I want of JC. I have nightmares already. Season is done---let NS play.
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Season's not done until we're eliminated from a bowl game. We'll need the extra practices in December. It's not like we were going to win the conference going in. But I hear ya, I hate watching Crompton play too.
 
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I am still of the opinion that this staff wants to win right now as much as anyone on this board. And Crompton, as sorry as he is, gives us the best chance to win now. We should defer to their expertise.
 
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Nick will play if and when CLK says he can. You are no more tired of seeing the losses then the team and the coaches. If the solution was as easy as playing Stephens then it would have already been made. The staff is doing all they can think of to get more improvement out of the QB they see in practice and in the game to give us a chance at a W. How many times has the offense lined up wrong or false starts? How many times have we had to call a timeout because of wrong personel in the huddle? Perhaps these are some of the tangibles that JC brings that Stephens does not. I would bet you a $1,000 right now that Crompton would school you at the QB position in practice or a game. The only thing you want to do, is be an armchair coach and complain.
 
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Dudley Smith said:
The question is not whether Crompton is playing at the level of an SEC QB (he isn't), the question is whether we have anyone else on the team who is better. I would imagine that the sports editor from a paper in Mobile doesn't have much opportunity to evaluate our alternatives.

I simply can't believe that CLK is sticking with Crompton because he's worried about scaring off recruits. If a hot shot high school QB is scared off by an incumbent Nick Freakin' Stephens with one year of eligibility left, we don't want him. With the public and team pressure that is mounting over starting Crompton, there is every incentive for CLK to put in Stephens to say to everyone "look, you asked for Stephens, and you got him - happy now?" The only conclusion I can draw is that he really must believe Stephens is worse than Crompton, and that putting him in will actually make us worse. I know it doesn't seem possible, but he really must believe that is what will happen, and if we do that, there's no going back to Crompton down the road.
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Sounds like the most plausible reason to me. Actually I don't think Crompton played as badly against AU as his detractors seem to believe. I'd give him a "C" overall, and that might very well have been good enough to win IF the wr's and special teams had played at a comparable level. The question is "can Stephens be worse?". IMO the answer is "yes he can, and, in fact he WAS worse when he got the chance last year." Based on AU, I'd say Crompton's decision making has improved significantly since early season, he's not likely to force the ball into tight coverage, and he's not going to throw a tantrum when things don't go his way. These things may not be enough to make him a first class QB, but they're more than Nick did last year. I find it impossible to believe that Kiffin wouldn't play Stephens if he thought for even a second that he might be better, so, like you, I can only conclude that the coaches have zero confidence in the boy.
 
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I don't know who's better at QB (JC or NS) because like everyone else on this board, I'm limited to mostly what I've seen in games and there are obviously some issues at the WR positions as well. However, from a QB change perspective, I think it would be difficult for CLK to make a switch now that we're 5 games into the season as the only 2 possible outcomes would be...

1) NS comes in and plays much better than JC. CLK will take some heat as to why he didn't make the change earlier as not doing so cost us at least 1-2 wins. CLK will be viewed as hard-headed and reluctant to make a change that many others were in favor of, and many will question whether he was really playing his best players.

2) NS comes in and plays as bad, if not worse, than JC. CLK will be accused of giving in to the "complaining fans" instead of using his better judgement as coach of the team, which would cost him credibility as to his position of "playing the best players" and "protecting his QB".

Neither outcome is good for CLK, and IMO I can't see how there could be a positive outcome for CLK by making the change at this point in the season. I am NOT suggesting that this is the reason CLK has been reluctant to make a QB change as I have no idea what he and the other coaches are considering. My only point is that if you think about the possible outcomes of making a change, I can't think of anything that would be viewed favorably by UT fans... and certainly not the skeptics.
 
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GmanTN said:
Nick will play if and when CLK says he can. You are no more tired of seeing the losses then the team and the coaches. If the solution was as easy as playing Stephens then it would have already been made. The staff is doing all they can think of to get more improvement out of the QB they see in practice and in the game to give us a chance at a W. How many times has the offense lined up wrong or false starts? How many times have we had to call a timeout because of wrong personel in the huddle? Perhaps these are some of the tangibles that JC brings that Stephens does not. I would bet you a $1,000 right now that Crompton would school you at the QB position in practice or a game. The only thing you want to do, is be an armchair coach and complain.
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Man, you are on a roll, another great post!
 
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Orange Maniac said:
What if CLK puts in Nick Stephens and he gets an ACL or similar injury? Where will we be next spring? We would do good to have enough quaterbacks to hold a practice. I don't know if this is why he's not putting in Nick or not but he probably knew this year would suck and doesn't want to jeopardize next season.
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I think there is some validity to this. CLK knows that if he pulls Crompton, he is done. His confidence is already fragile. Bench him and he never recovers. If he inserts Stephens and he is injured, we do not have a backup at all. We would be using Lamaison and after his performances in spring practice, I am sure CLK does not want that. I personally would like to see Stephens on the field just to see if it is all Crompton's fault that we are losing and to end the debates on this message board.
 
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Volsfan4243 said:
I think there is some validity to this. CLK knows that if he pulls Crompton, he is done. His confidence is already fragile. Bench him and he never recovers. If he inserts Stephens and he is injured, we do not have a backup at all. We would be using Lamaison and after his performances in spring practice, I am sure CLK does not want that. I personally would like to see Stephens on the field just to see if it is all Crompton's fault that we are losing and to end the debates on this message board.
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Did you mean FALL practice?
 
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Orange Maniac said:
What if CLK puts in Nick Stephens and he gets an ACL or similar injury? Where will we be next spring? We would do good to have enough quaterbacks to hold a practice. I don't know if this is why he's not putting in Nick or not but he probably knew this year would suck and doesn't want to jeopardize next season.
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I don't think a coach worthy of controlling a top program ever thinks like that. A coach is worried about what he has to do to win the next game on his schedule. Whoever gives him the best chance to win "today's" game plays.

That may change at 2-8 or 1-9 in a season, but when you're 2-2, 3-4, or whatever, you play to win the next game on your schedule, not games 12-18 months away, you worry about those games when it's time to worry about them.

College football is a fluid game from year to year, a lot can change and every team is different from one year to the next. I'm sure Kiffin is worrying about the Tennessee Volunteers 2009, week 6, not the Spring Game for 2010.
 
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GmanTN said:
Nick will play if and when CLK says he can. You are no more tired of seeing the losses then the team and the coaches. If the solution was as easy as playing Stephens then it would have already been made. The staff is doing all they can think of to get more improvement out of the QB they see in practice and in the game to give us a chance at a W. How many times has the offense lined up wrong or false starts? How many times have we had to call a timeout because of wrong personel in the huddle? Perhaps these are some of the tangibles that JC brings that Stephens does not. I would bet you a $1,000 right now that Crompton would school you at the QB position in practice or a game. The only thing you want to do, is be an armchair coach and complain.
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The difference being that I am not on scholarship at UT.
However, if I had been at UT for 5 years, I really believe I could do no worse, certainly could handle a center snap and hit a 10 yd out.
 
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Dudley Smith said:
The question is not whether Crompton is playing at the level of an SEC QB (he isn't), the question is whether we have anyone else on the team who is better. I would imagine that the sports editor from a paper in Mobile doesn't have much opportunity to evaluate our alternatives.

I simply can't believe that CLK is sticking with Crompton because he's worried about scaring off recruits. If a hot shot high school QB is scared off by an incumbent Nick Freakin' Stephens with one year of eligibility left, we don't want him. With the public and team pressure that is mounting over starting Crompton, there is every incentive for CLK to put in Stephens to say to everyone "look, you asked for Stephens, and you got him - happy now?" The only conclusion I can draw is that he really must believe Stephens is worse than Crompton, and that putting him in will actually make us worse. I know it doesn't seem possible, but he really must believe that is what will happen, and if we do that, there's no going back to Crompton down the road.
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Or maybe it's as simple as CLK doesn't like to be wrong. You see how much crap CPF got for not starting Lewis sooner....

Don't be so naive, there IS a motive.
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JohnWardForever said:
The difference being that I am not on scholarship at UT.
However, if I had been at UT for 5 years, I really believe I could do no worse, certainly could handle a center snap and hit a 10 yd out.
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I bet a grand right now you could not throw a 10 yd out with guys 6'3" and taller charging at you. It is real easy to sit and tell yourself I could do that. It is much harder to actually go out and do it. You have already come up with excuses about the 5 yrs and scholarship. As bad as you think JC is, he is 100 times better then you are at it. But yet you feel you have the right to criticize him, classy.
 
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JohnWardForever said:
Evidently practice doesn't count. I'll trade all those "perfect practices" for a W vs a quality opponent.

We all know Cromp is great in practice---just can't translate.

A surgeon in training may be terrific working on a cadevar, but when a life is on the line----------------whoops------slips-----sorry---
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You missed my point. My point was that Stephens is not as good as Crompton. The reporter hasn't seen practice but he still knows better than our staff, who sees these kids daily.
 
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