AJ Johnson Accused of Sexual Assault

[volfan607]

Again, I never once said AJ was guilty. Just that I believe Bowles had to be led to believe something took place. As the previous poster said, wouldn't you believe your girlfriend (if this is what she is like everyone claims)? If this involved anyone other than the star player, we would all be praising Bowles.

The fact that Bowles will be on the sideline this Saturday makes me question whether any of this is even true. No way he would be out there if the whole team had turned on him as some suggest.

19 year old girls will say anything to get out of a lie.

 

[teeterman21]

There is no shame, when not one damn person on Volnation knows the truth on anything! Just saying....

All this "Bowles' gf" stuff: I'm pretty sure that's something that took off here. What was originally said was that she was a friend. That's it. I really hope that if this had happened to a friend of my son when he was in college, that he would have done exactly the same: supported a friend in time of trouble.

And shame on those teammates who went after him. Sounds like the real-life version of some VN reaction. I guess it wasn't all of them, since he's playing Saturday.

I suppose in the end, this winds up being a teachable moment in a tragic situation. Doing the right thing at the right time for the right reason...

 

[IPleadInsanity]

Am I in the wrong thread??? Looking for the AJ Johnson accused of sexual assault thread?

 

[VolFan4Life87]

Honestly, if your girlfriend told you that someone raped her, wouldn't you do the same thing? The only possible deviation would be if I decided to go vigilante. I don't really understand how any of this reflects poorly on Bowles except that he either has poor taste in teammates or poor taste in women depending on who's telling the truth. It certainly doesn't sound like he did anything wrong to me.

I'd go vigilante if my SO told me that. Lock n load

 

[Joefoxx]

Would it not be cool if all the seniors came out wearing #45 and orange dreads...

At this point not "cool" at all!:stop:

 

[MedicT]

Are you saying that he would have said no to consensual sex with 19 year old girls? I have seen a lot of people on here say he shouldn't have put himself in this position. Assuming he is innocent, what exactly did he do that every single poster on this forum wouldn't do? I am sure everyone here is/would just turning away all of the attractive 18-22 year old girls that are throwing themselves at them.

No, I'm saying he voluntarily put himself at risk and he is facing the consequences. Even if he is innocent, he put himself at risk. We all make choices and either way he made a very bad one. If he commited a crime then he deserves what is coming to him. If he is innocent then he chose the wrong girl and the wrong time to play around when excercising some self control would have been the correct move.

 

[Wolfeman_Vol]

No, I'm saying he voluntarily put himself at risk and he is facing the consequences. Even if he is innocent, he put himself at risk. We all make choices and either way he made a very bad one. If he commited a crime then he deserves what is coming to him. If he is innocent then he chose the wrong girl and the wrong time to play around when excercising some self control would have been the correct move.

Im with you..if he did it, throw the book at him. BUT saying he should've excercised control if consensual sex was on the table? C'mon man, you must've never been 22.

 

[MedicT]

Im with you..if he did it, throw the book at him. BUT saying he should've excercised control if consensual sex was on the table? C'mon man, you must've never been 22.

Of course, but then again I knew how to avoid situations that could land myself in prison. I think AJ understands how important that is now, unfortunately he didn't a week ago.

 

[emzeeee]

Of course, but then again I knew how to avoid situations that could land myself in prison. I think AJ understands how important that is now, unfortunately he didn't a week ago.

If he didn't rape her and the sex was consensual, your remedy is to... be abstinent? Because otherwise he didn't (legally) do anything wrong.

 

[rocktopper16]

Teammates probably know more than we do. Just saying.

 

[ALLVOL 4LIFE]

This thread rolled so hard that I didn't follow it completely. The question I have is AJ suspended for being ACCUSED? I have read no charges are filed, correct? If so, why is he suspended? Being at an appartment complex at 3am may be against team policy, otherwise I don't understand. But like others have said, team probably knows more than we do at this time.

 

[emzeeee]

This thread rolled so hard that I didn't follow it completely. The question I have is AJ suspended for being ACCUSED? I have read no charges are filed, correct? If so, why is he suspended? Being at an appartment complex at 3am may be against team policy, otherwise I don't understand. But like others have said, team probably knows more than we do at this time.

Seeing as how it took place at his apartment complex, I doubt that's the case.

Suspending him while he's being investigated is the correct thing to do.

 

[SmokeyVol]

Attention is what he wants in the majority of his articles. Stop giving him attention...

 

[LWSVOL]

This thread rolled so hard that I didn't follow it completely. The question I have is AJ suspended for being ACCUSED? I have read no charges are filed, correct? If so, why is he suspended? Being at an appartment complex at 3am may be against team policy, otherwise I don't understand. But like others have said, team probably knows more than we do at this time.

Jones has a policy that if there is an investigation of a player, he is suspended during the investigation. There are two investigations in progress. The KPD and the university are both investigating.

 

[tenninohio]

This thread rolled so hard that I didn't follow it completely. The question I have is AJ suspended for being ACCUSED? I have read no charges are filed, correct? If so, why is he suspended? Being at an appartment complex at 3am may be against team policy, otherwise I don't understand. But like others have said, team probably knows more than we do at this time.

From a previous post regarding timeline of notification to UT officials, it appears that notifications going up the administration chain from Knoxville city police to university police to administrators, there were violations of student code of conduct. CBJ would not have been among the first notified of the issue as it relates to suspected sexual assault---a big issue among all college campuses these days.

It is possible to be suspended from all college activities, not just sports programs. It would seem that CBJ responded quickly to university requirements that are outside his immediate decision making responsibilities.

*disclaimer: I am not a current UT student so I do not know the specific student codes of conducts

 

[MedicT]

If he didn't rape her and the sex was consensual, your remedy is to... be abstinent? Because otherwise he didn't (legally) do anything wrong.

You don't understand. As a high profile individual, again assuming he is innocent at this point, he is a target. Right or wrong he is paying a price for putting himself in this situation. If he is innocent then he should have had enough responsibility to avoid what is happening now. I'll betcha he realizes right now what I am talking about and if the situation arises again his response will be enirely different.

 

[zreeves]

You don't understand. As a high profile individual, again assuming he is innocent at this point, he is a target. Right or wrong he is paying a price for putting himself in this situation. If he is innocent then he should have had enough responsibility to avoid what is happening now. I'll betcha he realizes right now what I am talking about and if the situation arises again his response will be enirely different.

I will be honest, I still have no clue what you are trying to say. Next time a girl says "come have sex with me" he will just say no? Make the girl sign a consensual sex contract? Especially if it is true he had relations with this girl beforehand, how could he possibly know something like this could and would happen? How many other girls do you think these football players have relations with during their college career? Maybe I am just missing what you are saying unless I am reading it correctly that you are saying he is stupid for having sex with girls in college.

I am assuming he is innocent, if he isn't then he wasn't put in a bad situation he is a bad person.

 

[Pesky1]

Are you saying that he would have said no to consensual sex with 19 year old girls? I have seen a lot of people on here say he shouldn't have put himself in this position. Assuming he is innocent, what exactly did he do that every single poster on this forum wouldn't do? I am sure everyone here is/would just turning away all of the attractive 18-22 year old girls that are throwing themselves at them.

Sorry, that's nonsense. "Every single poster" on this board is not an all-American candidate, national representative of the Tennessee football program, and potential professional player. How about some recognition of their very special position and responsibility by these guys, which places requirements on them different from the posters on this board. If he had adhered to this line and shown some self-control, he would be starting for the Vols on Saturday...and those of us that love Tennessee football so much would be a little less worried.

 

[OWB]

Sorry, that's nonsense. "Every single poster" on this board is not an all-American candidate, national representative of the Tennessee football program, and potential professional player. How about some recognition of their very special position and responsibility by these guys, which places requirements on them different from the posters on this board. If he had adhered to this line and shown some self-control, he would be starting for the Vols on Saturday...and those of us that love Tennessee football so much would be a little less worried.

Nailed it. Post more. :hi:

 

[bamawriter]

I will be honest, I still have no clue what you are trying to say. Next time a girl says "come have sex with me" he will just say no? Make the girl sign a consensual sex contract? Especially if it is true he had relations with this girl beforehand, how could he possibly know something like this could and would happen? How many other girls do you think these football players have relations with during their college career? Maybe I am just missing what you are saying unless I am reading it correctly that you are saying he is stupid for having sex with girls in college.

Your point is fine, but it ignores certain truths. Rape accusations are much, much less common between two people in a committed relationship than they are between two unattached individuals.

There has been a lot of talk (not necessarily from you, but in general) about how the girl could have protected herself by not being out drinking at 3 in the morning. And while that is shortsighted, it's also true.

What is just as shortsighted, but is just as true, is the fact that a guy can protect himself from a rape beef by not getting hammered and bedding the nearest piece of tail. I'm not arguing for unrealistic chastity amongst the college-age population. But less promiscuity goes a long way toward avoiding a number of issues.

 

[emzeeee]

Sorry, that's nonsense. "Every single poster" on this board is not an all-American candidate, national representative of the Tennessee football program, and potential professional player. How about some recognition of their very special position and responsibility by these guys, which places requirements on them different from the posters on this board. If he had adhered to this line and shown some self-control, he would be starting for the Vols on Saturday...and those of us that love Tennessee football so much would be a little less worried.

Oh whatever. He has every right, regardless of his status, to have consensual sex with people of proper age. He's a college student. You can hold him to whatever standard you want, but it doesn't mean anything.

And this wasn't some random girl that he'd never been with before. They've been involved before in the past.

 

[flatiron]

If he didn't rape her and the sex was consensual, your remedy is to... be abstinent? Because otherwise he didn't (legally) do anything wrong.

My remedy would be to not party at 3 am during the most important part of the season, especially when the person in question is a senior leader on the team.

 

[MedicT]

Oh whatever. He has every right, regardless of his status, to have consensual sex with people of proper age. He's a college student. You can hold him to whatever standard you want, but it doesn't mean anything.

And this wasn't some random girl that he'd never been with before. They've been involved before in the past.

Doesn't mean anything? His actions could wind up costing him a multmillion dollar NFL contract, even if innocent. How's that for meaning something?

 

[emzeeee]

Doesn't mean anything? His actions could wind up costing him a multmillion dollar NFL contract, even if innocent. How's that for meaning something?

Your standard doesn't mean anything, was my point.

And I'd be amazed if he didn't still end up in the NFL.

 

[MedicT]

It's not my standard. My standards are not what has a case with his name on it in front of the District Attorney.