AJ Johnson Accused of Sexual Assault

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SaintLouisVol said:
Anyone who is an advocate for the name of victims of sexual assault and abuse to be made public is either completely ignorant to the nature of the crimes or is a monster.

Sexual crime is one of the most psychologically damaging things that exists. Not only is there an overwhelming trauma, there remains a deep social stigma associated with being the victim of a sexual crime. For many, it is absolutely humiliating. This is why there are so many disturbing estimates about the number of sexual crimes that go unreported.

In fact, it is this stigma that the predators depend on as it far too often allows them to repeatedly commit sex crimes without being reported.

Ask yourself the question. If you were assaulted sexually, would the fact that your name was going to be made public affect your decision to pursue justice through the legal system?

I understand that there are false claims made against individuals. I also understand that 99 times out of 100, things are some shade of gray rather than black or white. But, number of false accusations pales in comparison to the number of actual crimes that take place everyday. Any action that might dissuade a real victim from coming forward is unacceptable, in my opinion, and there is no question that outing accusers would do just that.
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Really wish everybody would take a step back and realize this.
 
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GAVol said:
Really wish everybody would take a step back and realize this.
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It's ridiculous that some suggest that the accusers name should be made public. There's a long list of examples in history as to why they protect the identity of the supposed victim. What exactly do people have to gain by knowing her identity? I'm sure that the University, AJ, his counsel, and anyone who should be privy to that info has it. Joe Vol fan has no need to know
 
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vollygirl said:
Nope, not parents, moms. I'm talking about MY feelings, and since I'm a MOM, the MOMS are the ones that are on my mind. It goes without saying (at least it should) the dads are in the same boat. But congrats to both of you for trying to dig at me. Well done.
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Always like reading your posts vollygirl. Well thought out and not offensive. :hi: A lot of these posters just enjoy trying to stir something up.

GBO :rock:
 
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topdog4tn said:
Bad press only comes from people drawing conclusions without knowing the entire story. A person should be innocent until proven guilty for everything.
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Yeah of course your right, just look at fsu and whats that QB name? :eek:lol::eek:lol::eek:lol:

I'll take CBJ's handling of the situation over bimbo and fsu any day.

GBO :rock::rock::rock:
 
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SaintLouisVol said:
Where to start?
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off topic but whats your take on mizzou? i go to grad school in missouri and no one at my school actually cares about the SEC or football really--even the mizzou grads i know.

havent really been able to get a good read on what fans think about this game, even living here. mostly because i really dont think they have many hardcore fans.

ive watched a few games and i know theyve had some awful competition but im not sure if they play down to their opponent, play when it matters, or have just gotten better as the year has gone on? watching them versus georgia was a joke. they couldnt score more than we could on offense against florida... but they were solid against A&M.
 
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BearCat204 said:
It's ridiculous that some suggest that the accusers name should be made public. There's a long list of examples in history as to why they protect the identity of the supposed victim. What exactly do people have to gain by knowing her identity? I'm sure that the University, AJ, his counsel, and anyone who should be privy to that info has it. Joe Vol fan has no need to know
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I think the point Coug was trying to make is that by naming the accused publically, they are in effect being punished before being found guilty in court. I think that neither the accused nor the victim's names should be public knowledge at this point.
 
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Concerning all the talk about giving out the accuser's name:

I used to work at UT Medical Center, and I was often in the ER. Even there, if a victim comes in to have a rape kit done, it is kept extremely under wraps, and only 100% necessary personnel are allowed anywhere near the patient or their room. For those of you that don't know, in the ER there are TV screens with patient information and reason for visit. Rape victims don't go on that board, ever. A lot of times, those that weren't involved in the care of the patient never even know they're there until after the fact. Even still, names are never learned.

All of these measures are taken to protect the identity of the accuser so that others do not feel intimidated into not reporting.

Her name should not be released to the public.

That being said, should the allegations prove false or as a means of some sort of revenge, our legal system has pretty harsh penalties in place. I've seen instances of false accusers getting as much as 12-15 years in prison.
 
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hubcappsjr said:
I think the point Coug was trying to make is that by naming the accused publically, they are in effect being punished before being found guilty in court. I think that neither the accused nor the victim's names should be public knowledge at this point.
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And how exactly would to propose the accused names be kept from public knowledge?
 
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Volingatorland said:
Concerning all the talk about giving out the accuser's name:

I used to work at UT Medical Center, and I was often in the ER. Even there, if a victim comes in to have a rape kit done, it is kept extremely under wraps, and only 100% necessary personnel are allowed anywhere near the patient or their room. For those of you that don't know, in the ER there are TV screens with patient information and reason for visit. Rape victims don't go on that board, ever. A lot of times, those that weren't involved in the care of the patient never even know they're there until after the fact. Even still, names are never learned.

All of these measures are taken to protect the identity of the accuser so that others do not feel intimidated into not reporting.

Her name should not be released to the public.

That being said, should the allegations prove false or as a means of some sort of revenge, our legal system has pretty harsh penalties in place. I've seen instances of false accusers getting as much as 12-15 years in prison.
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Bs on last part. Most I've ever seen is a year and most if not all is suspended
 
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SaintLouisVol said:
And how exactly would to propose the accused names be kept from public knowledge?
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You're joking right? The media only knows as much as the Police want them to know. This is the exact reason that the accuser's names are not released. There are often time that the accused names are never released until an arrest is made. It really isn't that hard.

The young hit and run DUI suspect in Knoxville comes to mind. His name was held for a long period of time. I believe until after the arrest was made, in fact.
 
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SaintLouisVol said:
And how exactly would to propose the accused names be kept from public knowledge?
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In much the same way the "accuser's" name isn't made public. Because we the "public" don't want to unfairly harm their reputation, unduly assail their character or potentially ruin their life/s prematurely, and unjustly.

How about let's have a little compassion for a person who is just as likely to be guilty as innocent?

The facts aren't out, so we don't know yet. We don't know what went on with that girl.

But we now know AJ is an alleged rapist/monster/pervert/inhuman subcreature who is not fit to live.

Pretty fair & equally balanced process, huh?

Serves both accuser and accused in the same manner, right?

Protects both of their rights to privacy, doesn't it?
 
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ScornedPapaVol said:
In much the same way the "accuser's" name isn't made public. Because we the "public" don't want to unfairly harm their reputation, unduly assail their character or potentially ruin their life/s prematurely, and unjustly.

How about let's have a little compassion for a person who is just as likely to be guilty as innocent?

The facts aren't out, so we don't know yet. We don't know what went on with that girl.

But we now know AJ is an alleged rapist/monster/pervert/inhuman subcreature who is not fit to live.

Pretty fair & equally balanced process, huh?

Serves both accuser and accused in the same manner, right?

Protects both of their rights to privacy, doesn't it?
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Uh. No it doesn't. That was a lite harsh
 
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