Ainge on 104.5 Nashville Said he turned off Schaefer's alarm clock

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Brave Volunteer said:
My question is why in hell did Fulmer have us in a position in 2004 to have to rely on 1 or 2 true freshman QB's in the first place?? Refresh my memory. What happened to our QB recruiting between 2000 and 2003?
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How'd we do in 2004 with those freshmen QBs? 10-3, 7-1, won the East.
 
#77
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VOLnMiami said:
Ainge got a 4 year education at UT on the house...played football at UT and played for a short time in the NFL which none of us have done and not to mention he has a highly rated radio show...I'd say he's done pretty good for himself.
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Hahaha. Highly rated radio show.... haha haha haha.

He was good til he became a drug addict and like all drug addiction it ruined his life to the point that his only career option was to take a local Knoxville radio gig competing with others of the same ilk.
 
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secking said:


Peyton is horrible, the worst choke artist in the playoffs in history, defense won him both championships. Success is not PM, and to think it started with the locking of a door.

Serious note, apart from cheating, you do what you gotta do to get where you want to be. Just don't trust Ainge not to try to steal your girl...
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Actually your sarcasm is true on the 3rd point: Defense did dominate in Peyton's two SB wins
 
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butchna said:
Sucked at Ole Miss. And Ainge isn't what got Fulmer fired.
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He didn't suck at Ole Miss. They weren't very good defensively when he was there.

The truth is that Shaffer beat out Ainge. Started ahead of him for the first three games until Ainge had that great second half against Florida. I still contend that if Fulmer hadn't been so quick to anoint Ainge the starter ahead of Shaffer after one good half, we don't lose to ND that year. If it weren't for Shaffer, we lose to SC that year in Columbia.
 
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114VOL said:
He didn't suck at Ole Miss. They weren't very good defensively when he was there.

The truth is that Shaffer beat out Ainge. Started ahead of him for the first three games until Ainge had that great second half against Florida. I still contend that if Fulmer hadn't been so quick to anoint Ainge the starter ahead of Shaffer after one good half, we don't lose to ND that year. If it weren't for Shaffer, we lose to SC that year in Columbia.
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And he didn't bail them out offensively. :hmm: Not sure what the motivation was (recruiting promise?), but Schaeffer's starts garnered less actual playing time than Ainge. I think they were highlighting his athleticism as an "all is well" promotion of starting true freshmen at QB. Truth was, Schaeffer was at a loss in progressions and other fine tuned aspects of playing the position. Ainge was the guy well before that second half at Florida and it was because he was the better QB...no other reason. Also don't agree on the SC game being hand delivered by Brent. I do know we lost the Notre Dame game and the SEC Championship game because we lost Ainge.
 
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butchna said:
And he didn't bail them out offensively. :hmm: Not sure what the motivation was (recruiting promise?), but Schaeffer's starts garnered less actual playing time than Ainge. I think they were highlighting his athleticism as an "all is well" promotion of starting true freshmen at QB. Truth was, Schaeffer was at a loss in progressions and other fine tuned aspects of playing the position. Ainge was the guy well before that second half at Florida and it was because he was the better QB...no other reason. Also don't agree on the SC game being hand delivered by Brent. I do know we lost the Notre Dame game and the SEC Championship game because we lost Ainge.
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Not true. Also, one of the reasons Schaffer started over Ainge was because he was better at progressions than Ainge
 
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114VOL said:
Not true. Also, one of the reasons Schaffer started over Ainge was because he was better at progressions than Ainge
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Fiction. If he was,he would've won out and Ainge would've been the one transferring. Truth is he was an exciting runner and left handed, so he brought comparisons to Vick...until he threw the ball.
 
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butchna said:
Fiction. If he was,he would've won out and Ainge would've been the one transferring. Truth is he was an exciting runner and left handed, so he brought comparisons to Vick...until he threw the ball.
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He transferred because Fulmer wanted to make him a return guy that next spring, plus Schaffer got into a little trouble at a party. Please don't try to convince me that the best always won out during those years at UT. It was already the beginning of the end for Fulmer. Just the next year, Ainge had a meltdown at LSU and we had to be sparked by Rick Clausen, which created a huge rift in the team. Fulmer was an Ainge guy from the start, but Sanders wasn't.

It is though, the absolute truth that Schaffer grasped the offense a bit better. It's the reason he started over Ainge those first three games. And he was at least as accurate as Ainge
 
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butchna said:
Fiction. If he was,he would've won out and Ainge would've been the one transferring. Truth is he was an exciting runner and left handed, so he brought comparisons to Vick...until he threw the ball.
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Definitely. Ainge would have had a much better career at UT had it not been for that shoulder injury. I honestly think he had the smarts and athleticism to have surpassed Peyton.
 
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davethevol said:
Definitely. Ainge would have had a much better career at UT had it not been for that shoulder injury. I honestly think he had the smarts and athleticism to have surpassed Peyton.
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:birgits_giggle:

You must be forgetting about the mental issues he would develop when pressured.

He wasn't as good as Tony Robinson, Andy Kelley, Heath Shuler, Bobby Scott, or Condredge Holloway. Probably not a top ten QB at UT
 
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114VOL said:
He transferred because Fulmer wanted to make him a return guy that next spring, plus Schaffer got into a little trouble at a party. Please don't try to convince me that the best always won out during those years at UT. It was already the beginning of the end for Fulmer. Just the next year, Ainge had a meltdown at LSU and we had to be sparked by Rick Clausen, which created a huge rift in the team. Fulmer was an Ainge guy from the start, but Sanders wasn't.

It is though, the absolute truth that Schaffer grasped the offense a bit better. It's the reason he started over Ainge those first three games. And he was at least as accurate as Ainge
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When Fulmer started doing musical chairs with QBs the NEXT season and his last? Your point had merit. But previous to that, I'd ask you to point out a wrong QB decision. Should we have had Stewart over Manning? Veazey over Tee? Suggs or Matthews over Casey? Also will add your Schaefer conversion to returner yarn to your developing fiction novel. If he had returned, Fulmer would have had him competing against Rick Clausen for the backup spot...and it would have added to that convoluted mess.

Every time Schaeffer dropped back, it was a finely crafted disaster waiting to happen. Absolutely no passing sophistication to his game. Against UNLV, his scrambles paid off but future opponents gameplanned against that and he couldn't make them pay, passing wise. Completion percentage hovered around 50% and yards per attempt were paltry..,thus his playing time dropped each game. You should be giving Fulmer props for giving him every opportunity to adjust...he just wasn't doing it.

I'll leave the final statement with this observation. Ainge ended up as an average talent with a cup of coffee in the NFL. Schaeffer never even showed up to collect his cup in the Arena League. By the time his eligibility ended in Oxford,Oregeron was debating why he offered him a scholarship. NFL teams offered to try him out at WR with a chance of being picked up as a free agent. He wasn't even within reach of average as a QB...just facts.
 
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114VOL said:
:birgits_giggle:

You must be forgetting about the mental issues he would develop when pressured.

He wasn't as good as Tony Robinson, Andy Kelley, Heath Shuler, Bobby Scott, or Condredge Holloway. Probably not a top ten QB at UT
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At least he rated. I'd put Schaeffer below Moses Collins. :)
 
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Boca Vol said:
Take us to the promise land!...I remember the calls for Moses to be played ahead of Francis.
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I rooted for him. Was looking for the next Tony Robinson...sans drug issues. I know I know! I was a sophomore in high school! :pinch:
 
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MWAVolfan said:
Hahaha. Highly rated radio show.... haha haha haha.

He was good til he became a drug addict and like all drug addiction it ruined his life to the point that his only career option was to take a local Knoxville radio gig competing with others of the same ilk.
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Wow. I'll bet you're fun at parties.
 
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butchna said:
I rooted for him. Was looking for the next Tony Robinson...sans drug issues. I know I know! I was a sophomore in high school! :pinch:
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The most popular player on many teams is the backup QB.:good!:
 
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114VOL said:
He transferred because Fulmer wanted to make him a return guy that next spring, plus Schaffer got into a little trouble at a party. Please don't try to convince me that the best always won out during those years at UT. It was already the beginning of the end for Fulmer. Just the next year, Ainge had a meltdown at LSU and we had to be sparked by Rick Clausen, which created a huge rift in the team. Fulmer was an Ainge guy from the start, but Sanders wasn't.

It is though, the absolute truth that Schaffer grasped the offense a bit better. It's the reason he started over Ainge those first three games. And he was at least as accurate as Ainge
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No, Schaeffer (whose name you can't even spell properly) transferred when he was kicked off the team after he went after the front desk worker at a residence hall with a whiffle ball bat.

On no planet was he "at least as accurate" as Ainge. In the 2004 season, Schaeffer completed 18-37 passes (48.6%) and two TDs. Ainge was 109-198 (55.1%) with 17 TDs.

At Ole Miss, Schaeffer completed 115-244 passes in 2006 (47%) and 35-92 (38%) in 2007. So in no season during his career was he even nearly as accurate as Ainge in his worst season, at least by actual measurements past your faulty memory.
 
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MWAVolfan said:
Hahaha. Highly rated radio show.... haha haha haha.

He was good til he became a drug addict and like all drug addiction it ruined his life to the point that his only career option was to take a local Knoxville radio gig competing with others of the same ilk.
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It's currently the top-rated show on the flagship station of Tennessee Athletics in Knoxville, so I think the term "highly rated" qualifies.
 
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#96
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Boca Vol said:
The most popular player on many teams is the backup QB.:good!:
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Jim Bob Cooter was one of THE MOST popular backups!

He has even gotten more popular after his time at UT, which is unheard of....Heck, he was even Manning's QB coach in the NFL for a stent.
 
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#99
All of this heated moral debate over a kid pranking another?

PM and the filmroom door, EA and the alarm clock, that one day of being late didnt change "what might have been" Funny actually

I guess the whoopie cushion tore a many of kids self-esteem down to rock bottom and is THE major factor in those victims lifes not being as successful as they wouldve been.

Wow
 
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