Ainge is on Locker Room

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CKWHITE said:
Ok, so did anyone watch the show? That is what this thread was originally about, you know. Ainge is going to be back next week, fwiw.
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Manvol said:
Back to point: Ainge did really well on the show. It was probably best show Packer has ever had. Ainge had some real insight & said he didnt handle swapping time at QB vey well. He showed some maturing. Worth looking in the guide and watching the replay.
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I was very impressed by Ainge. I never watch 'The Locker Room', but i was flipping throught the channels last night and saw Ainge on as a guest, so i watched to see what he had to say. He is very knowledgable and gave good insight to some of the events that happend during his time here. I thought he was very informative. Definately made the show watchable.
 
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I'm not taking up for him he was just really good on the show, had some insight for his time playing then & now, & the QB position. he gave details about the difference between Cutt & Sanders. It was good show for once that is all.
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After reading this...

Rasputin_Vol said:
He should have never seen the football field after September 2005. From that point on, Fulmer and his staff should have been moving in another direction. Instead, not only does he stay on campus, but Cutcliffe turns around and force feeds Ainge down our throats, at the expense of Crompton's development. He lost all kinds of time, development, and confidence those 2 years under Cutcliffe. Then, when Cutcliffe leaves, we are left with Crompton, who has to now learn under a 3rd OC in his time in Knoxville (Sanders his redshirt freshman year when he was injured, Cutcliffe and Clawson). 2008 is what we have as a result. The evaluation of what Crompton could or couldn't do should have been done in 2006 and early 2007. At that point (and really, after the 2005 debacle), Fulmer and the gang should have been pressing to find a quarterback. Instead, Clawson (and later on Kiffin/Chaney) are given a quarterback that is damaged mentally.

And another thing. I can make the argument that Aineg actually stunted the development of 2 other quarterbacks on campus. He stole snaps away from Brent Scheaffer and got him distracted and frustrated and he stole snaps away from Rick Clausen.

So as a result of Cutcliffe and Fulmer turning a blind eye to Ainge's drug use/abuse and bad play, we end up having 2008, which prompted tghe firing of Fulmer and hiring of Kiffin, which in turn caused us to go out in a hurried manner to find Kiffin's replacement once he left. 3 years, 3 different coaches. 3 years, 3 different OCs (Cutcliffe, Clawson and Chaney/Kiffin).

Ainge was the catalyst for the most turbulent 6 years in UT football history. His drug use/abuse and kid glove pampering from the Fulmer staff ended up setting UT back 10 because of the chain of events and consequences that occurred if the guy would have instead simple exited stage left after halftime of the 2005 LSU game and never put on the Orange and White again.
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I agree with this...

GAVol said:
On this topic, Ras puts Gibbs to shame. It's like he caught Ainge simultaneously slashing his tires, burning down his house and sleeping with his girlfriend.
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Rasputin_Vol said:
He didn't become the starter until the 3rd or 4th game of 2004. Plus, he got bailed out by Scheaffer in the South Carolina game. And, he got knocked out of the Notre Dame game. And he missed the last few games of the season and didn't even play in the 2004 SEC championship.

And no... bowl wins >>> SEC East "championships" (quotations around championships)
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Wrong again. He started the third game after playing all but three series against Florida in the second game, including leading the game-winning drive.

In the South Carolina game, you have it backwards, Schaeffer broke his collarbone in that one and Ainge had to finish it for him.

Ainge missed Vandy and Kentucky after his shoulder injury, that's two regular season games.

So to you, going .500 and winning a meaningless bowl in Nashville is more impressive than winning what was the toughest division in college football TWICE?
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DeerPark12 said:
Wrong again. He started the third game after playing all but three series against Florida in the second game, including leading the game-winning drive.

In the South Carolina game, you have it backwards, Schaeffer broke his collarbone in that one and Ainge had to finish it for him.

Ainge missed Vandy and Kentucky after his shoulder injury, that's two regular season games.

So to you, going .500 and winning a meaningless bowl in Nashville is more impressive than winning what was the toughest division in college football TWICE?
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He was referring to Schaeffer hitting that lucky bomb pass that led to a TD to survive in the USCjr game. Our offense was going no where that game.
 
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Bassmanbruno said:
I'm not sure if we've had a QB since the 2000s that hasn't been a headcase in some way other than Casey.

Crompton and his family vs. the whole Vol fan base mentality surpasses anything Ainge ever showed.

And lol at claiming Ainge held back Schaeffer in any way. I still take an oxy'd up Ainge over the Crompdaddy any day.
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Why would you laugh at that? Shaeffer was the starter and looked really good. Because Ainge had an extraordinary set of series against Florida in the second half, Fulmer reacted(actually overreacted) and named him the starter. Shaeffer was better, IMO, and got a raw deal right before spring practice when they told him he would need to change positions. Ainger was NEVER anything better than mediocre and cost us some big games. Ever watched the 4th quarter of the 2006 Florida game(it's on reply every July-August on CSS)? Ainge choked the game away. He was coddled in every way possible.

Rasputin's post isn't far from the truth
 
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Schaeffer could never throw worth a crap and he proved that at Ole Miss too. You all were just enamored with his running ability.
 
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DeerPark12 said:
I think the pair of Eastern Division Championships make up for it. And he was a member of the 2004 team that won the Cotton Bowl, wouldn't have been there if he hadn't won the majority of our games that season. Not his fault his arm was in a sling for the bowl game.
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If it weren't for Shaeffer, we lose at South Carolina that year.
 
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If you thought Schaeffer was better than Ainge, I invite you to go have a look at Schaefer's career at Ole Miss. He was a good athlete, but no feel whatsoever for throwing from the pocket.
 
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DeerPark12 said:
Wrong again. He started the third game after playing all but three series against Florida in the second game, including leading the game-winning drive.

In the South Carolina game, you have it backwards, Schaeffer broke his collarbone in that one and Ainge had to finish it for him.

Ainge missed Vandy and Kentucky after his shoulder injury, that's two regular season games.

So to you, going .500 and winning a meaningless bowl in Nashville is more impressive than winning what was the toughest division in college football TWICE?
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No, you have it wrontg. Shaeffer bailed us out in that game. He might have broken his collarbone in the process, but he led us to victory, not Ainge.
 
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BelAirVol said:
If it weren't for Shaeffer, we lose at South Carolina that year.
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he bailed us out at the end of the 1st half, but I don't think we ever trailed by more than a TD and Ainge was still coming in on passing downs.
 
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Bassmanbruno said:
Schaeffer could never throw worth a crap and he proved that at Ole Miss too. You all were just enamored with his running ability.
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He threw the ball very well. I am not enamored with anything. I know what I saw and know what I am talking about.
 
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Bassmanbruno said:
apparently you don't because he was terrible at throwing the ball.
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That's your opinion. Mine is that he threw it very well while at UT. Fulmer named Ainge the starter based on a few series in the second half. FACT. Shaeffer got the starting job for the opening game based on 3 weeks worth of practice and his ability to manage the team better. Another fact.

It was just another in long list of bad decisions by PF in the last decade
 
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GAVol said:
If you thought Schaeffer was better than Ainge, I invite you to go have a look at Schaefer's career at Ole Miss. He was a good athlete, but no feel whatsoever for throwing from the pocket.
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You are correct. Schaeffer was a great hs qb and a decent bu qb in the SEC. He was virtually a wildcat qb. To even think that he could sit back in the pocket as you almost HAVE to do to be a qb at UT, is silly. He played too short to be able to feel the pressure and see over the line. He could, grant you, come in and spark the offense until the defense made the appropriate adjustments.

Fulmer didn't coddle Ainge like what is said on this thread. If I remember, Ainge was the only SEC caliber qb we had. He sent Schaeffer packing because Schaeffer felt he was bigger than the program and he had a shi__y attitude. Fulmer told him to go find another program. He did. And the rest is history.
 
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#97
we need a forum for past history *****ing,instead of seeing it pop up in every thread,every damn day
 
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BelAirVol said:
That's your opinion. Mine is that he threw it very well while at UT. Fulmer named Ainge the starter based on a few series in the second half. FACT. Shaeffer got the starting job for the opening game based on 3 weeks worth of practice and his ability to manage the team better. Another fact.

It was just another in long list of bad decisions by PF in the last decade
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They were named co-starters. He was rotating them no matter who started so that argument holds little water.
 
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I understand the temptation to use drugs playing for Fulmer and Randy Sanders.
The kids only human.
 
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