Ainge came down on the staff pretty hard for yanking Worley.

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VolBeef88 said:
Then why not pull all the starters and build for the future? Why risk injury to any starter?
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It comes down to what the coach (which I am not) believes to be the best opportunity cost for the team and for the players. Do the benefits out weigh the risk?
 
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tmodaniel said:
I am saying that the players lost hope after being down by 21 points, they gave up on the game.My comment has nothing to do with giving up on Dooley at all, maybe if taking out of context. It wasn't just our O-line the whole damn team was tired and knew the game was over.
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And if a team doesn't play whistle to whistle then I definitely put that on the staff.
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tmodaniel said:
It comes down to what the coach (which I am not) believes to be the best opportunity cost for the team and for the players. Do the benefits out weigh the risk?
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Exactly. And more and more are questioning the decision making of the coaches. And as fans who support the team and pay for the team we have that right.
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VolBeef88 said:
And if a team doesn't play whistle to whistle then I definitely put that on the staff.
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That's fine you can put that on the staff, that is your opinion and I respect that, however, look back at games were a team is getting it's ass handed to them and are losing by 21+ points, the team loses it's swagger and players give up on the game. Does that mean fire all the coaches and all of the staff on teams that have given up?
 
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tripper said:
He has probably the best insight into the game on Knoxville radio. Now I understand what the next comment will be but he is damn good.
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No, Crew (and every other Ainge basherfor that matter) knows more about QB's than Ainge. duh.
 
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tmodaniel said:
That's fine you can put that on the staff, that is your opinion and I respect that, however, look back at games were a team is getting it's ass handed to them and are losing by 21+ points, the team loses it's swagger and players give up on the game. Does that mean fire all the coaches and all of the staff on teams that have given up?
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I never said they quit.
I just think it's dumb to have pulled a kid who needs as much game time as he can get. We burned his red shirt so why not let him finish the damned game. I don't think for a second it was to save him from injury. Hell Dooley said he pulled him because he was struggling not to save him. The mans decision making has once again left people scratching their head.
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volumnus said:
Ainge basically said he thought the staff took all the credit when Worley was successful against MTSU and let Worley shoulder all the blame when the offense struggled versus USC and Arkansas. Ainge has been relatively pro-Dooley to this point, but he is starting to take issue with Dooley throwing players under the bus. I think we have a lot of dissension in the ranks, but I'm hoping a couple of wins calm the waters. We need the practice time, and we need to end the season on a high note. I think we can get it done. Bray may give us just enough to beat Vandy and Kentucky, God willing. Go Big Orange. Dooley is here for at least one more year. Hopefully he will make some staff changes and relax into a figure head role. He's good with the press. He seems like a good recruiter thus far. I believe he could possibly be successful if he would stay out of the way. I think he is tinkering with Chaney's offense similar to how Fulmer meddled with the Clawfence. I don't know. Just beat Vandy, and we can argue about it later.
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seems like alot of former players think he is a below average coach. the reason being is that they know football.
 
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volsrule01 said:
Fulmer's biggest mistake was the Clawfense. He still would have had a job if it wasn't for Dave C. He made a terrible hire and it cost him his job.

Dooley should tinker with Chaney's Big 10 pass-first offense. So predictible!
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I agree that Clawson was a terrible hire. Fulmer actually interviewed and wanted to hire the OC from Michigan but Hamilton would not give the money for that hire. If the OC from UM had been hired then Mallett would have came to UT. Fulmer even made the comment about where all the money was when he wanted to hire a coach when Kiffin was allowed to pay higher salaries for his asst coaches.

I also agree that Chaney needs to commit to the run more or be replaced.
 
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As it turns out, Worley's RS should have never been burned. Simms could have won the MTSU game and the others wouldn't have mattered. Hind sight is 20/20 though.
 
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I think Dooley screwed up in yanking Worley. I wouldn't be surprised if he leaves after this season. It's evident that Bray is our QB and I see him staying all 4 years which leaves Worley 1 full season as starting QB.
 
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Jeepkuntry said:
I think Dooley screwed up in yanking Worley. I wouldn't be surprised if he leaves after this season. It's evident that Bray is our QB and I see him staying all 4 years which leaves Worley 1 full season as starting QB.
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unless Worley is able to redshirt
 
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VolBeef88 said:
Then why not pull all the starters and build for the future? Why risk injury to any starter?
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In either his postgame or Monday press conference he said he should've put in the 2nd string O-line and that it was "dumb coaching." He admitted he made a mistake there. I think he pulled Worley to prevent injury in case Bray can't go.
 
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Its just a risk vs. reward scenario. When its all said and done all we lost were some additional snaps for Worley. Not worth getting all worked up about. I.M.O.
 
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VolsFanRJ said:
As it turns out, Worley's RS should have never been burned. Simms could have won the MTSU game and the others wouldn't have mattered. Hind sight is 20/20 though.
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not that much hindsight .. I was against burning the redshirt and stated that with simms or worley starting our record would be no different, and that vandy would be the only game that the starting qb would make a difference .. however; I'm now in the camp that this is valuable experience in case bray goes down for a series or two next year.
 
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The wasn't any point in keeping Worley in anymore after UT was down by 35. He didn't need the lesson of what it's like to be injured.
 
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If you are going to burn his redshirt year, he needs to get as many snaps as possible in a game. I would have left him in. Looks like Bray is going to back, so we may not need him against Vandy.
 
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JohnnyBall said:
Worley got pulled = game out of hand.

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I don't recall seeing u post this type of garbage about EA when he was praising your idol Dooley.
Oh that's right, if someone is critical of your cult leader then they're dumb.
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oklavol said:
If you are going to burn his redshirt year, he needs to get as many snaps as possible in a game. I would have left him in. Looks like Bray is going to back, so we may not need him against Vandy.
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Exactly. But that makes to much sense for many on here to understand.
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Sure glad it wasnt up to volnation to run this team. If he had kept Simms in there and we had lost everyone crying now about burning a redshirt would have been on here crying because he didnt play Worley. What happens if Bray leaves after his jr year? I bet you will be glad he had some pt. This site isnt even worth visiting anymore. Too many loonies on here. Not very many know enough to even comment but are all the best ADs in the business.
 
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StlCardinals2618 said:
This is SEC football, if you do bad, you get pulled. If it bothers Worley that much, then he doesn't have what it takes to play in the SEC. Once your a starter, your fair game to every reporter, fan, player, and everyone else. If he can't handle getting benched for performing bad, then he cant handle the SEC. Thats all there is to it.

No player should get special treatment, Coleman got pulled for doing bad this year, just because he is a qb, doesn't mean he deserves different treatment.
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the same can be said for dooley
 
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