Ah sooooooo, the plot thickens.

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Stinky loves the optics, wonder why milo doesn't?

Is this Barrack Hussein Obama aka Barry Soetoro, revealing his true colors:?

Obama gives award to communist Dolores Huerta, and won’t let anti-communist hero Lech Walesa into White House « Dan from Squirrel Hill's Blog

Obama has just given the highest civilian award to someone who wants the U.S. to copy the policies of communist dictator Hugo Chavez. And at the same time, Obama refuses to let an anti-communist hero into the White House.

Dolores Huerta has praised Hugo Chavez, the Venezuelan communist dictator who has repeatedly used the military to seize food from private owners, had butchers arrested, held at a military base, and strip searched for running out of beef, shut down a TV station that criticized him, and placed a “luxury tax” on toilet paper.

After Chavez seized farmland from farmers, he stated, “The land is not private. It is the property of the state.” Chavez has seized many supermarkets from their owners, and under government ownership, the shelves in these supermarkets are often empty. Chavez’s mismanagement of the nationalized oil industry is so severe that the country has actually had to import gasoline, despite having some of the hugest oil reserves in the world.

Chavez’s takeovers have also caused severe damage to the steel industry, the cement industry, the construction industry, the telephone industry, and the electric industry. Chavez has also caused a brain drain, with many of the most intelligent and well educated people fleeing the country.

President Obama just gave her the Medal of Freedom, the highest honor that can be given to a civilian.

Meanwhile, Lech Walesa was a major participant in the defeat of communism in Eastern Europe. National Review writes:

Lech Walesa was once a trade-union activist. He was often arrested for speaking his mind against Communist oppression behind the Iron Curtain in Poland and for defying the Soviet Union. He was an electrician who, with no higher education, led one of the most profound freedom movements of the 20th century — Solidarity. He became president of Poland and swept in reforms, pushing the Soviet Union out of his homeland and moving the country toward a free-market economy and individual liberty.

But President Obama won’t even let him in the White House.

That is really disgusting.

Say what?

What does 'soe' mean in Spanish?

We all what 'toro' means and we all know where BS comes from.

Let me correct myself, 'Some of know where BS comes from but evidently some of us don't.'

Let me put it to you this way senor presidente, I'll cling to my religion and my guns and you cling to your pie in the sky. (or your mother ship as the case may be, without mentioning you pal Loopie Loui.)

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Is this a gem or what? :)
 
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Man I feel sorry for you gs, but then again from what I've gathered you must be one of those millionaire republicans. If not, just another uneducated follower.
 
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Man I feel sorry for you gs, but then again from what I've gathered you must be one of those millionaire republicans. If not, just another uneducated follower.

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Feel sorry for yourself, I'm anything but a looney liberal.

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So the smarest man in the room believes there are 57 states and the USA has 2 per-cent of oil reserves. The Obama pattern of embarrassing gaffes never end. For the last four years we have heard and/or seen so many moments of utter embarrasment by Senator and President Obama, it makes you wonder how he ever got elected. We need to expand the government sector to boost the private sector and the economy? Does Obama actually think that most Americans are that dumbfounded?

Evidently he thinks there are enough liberal zombies that he can be reelected.

Let's start with your liberal zombie urban myth implication that republicans are all rich.

In the US senate the eight richest senators are ALL democrats, numbers nine and ten of the top ten are rinos that nearly always vote with the dhimmirats on everything that really matters.

It's like when governor Mike Huckabee got 49 of the 50 (no there aren't really 58 states), to sign (the sole holdout was Blago of Ill and you know where he calls home now) on to a petition to have the federal welfare/medicaid money turned over to the states so they could administer it in a better, more intelligent fashion.

Huckabee, who grew up dirt poor found himeself being lectured about how to deal with poverty by the three richest senators, Jay Rockefeller, Ted Kennedy and John effing Kerry. Huckabee said they were totally clueless unless perhaps you were trying to keep a voting block in poverty all their lives. Kennedy had $40m posted in his bank accout the day he was born, Kerry used to spend his childhood summers at the Forbes estate in the south of France and the Rockefeller family has created 10,000 tax free trusts in which they transfer their money to and fro without ever being audited by the IRS that has it's foot on the necks of the middle and working classes.

"Everyone in the United States of America has the right to be stupid."
John Kerry

So don't feel sorry for me at all.

You want to be educated?

Read Tragedy and Hope and Road to Serfdom.

Socialism isn't a grassroots movement, although you can find useful idiots at the grassroots level, it is the brainchild of the super super wealthy and isn't meant to make everyone equal, it is meant to bring about a modern day form of fuedalism.

Now you want to debate or have a peeing contest?

Is there any doubt in your mind whatsoever that BHO is and has been closely associated with the communist party?
 
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Valerie Jarrett's dad is irrelevant. Obama's statements and policies vis a vis the government vs the private sector tell you all you need to know about how he views the world.
 
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Socialism...is the brainchild of the super super wealthy and isn't meant to make everyone equal, it is meant to bring about a modern day form of fuedalism.

You are either completely ignorant or you are a liar.

Now you want to debate or have a peeing contest?

Hard to debate when you are going to put forth blatant lies (like the one noted above) as historical fact.
 
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You are either completely ignorant or you are a liar or both.



Hard to debate when you are going to put forth blatant lies (like the one noted above) as historical fact.

Small edit. Otherwise spot on.
 
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Small edit. Otherwise spot on.

Small edit from a small mind.

What's you area of expertise?

So far I havn't found where you know ch!t from chinola about anything.






You are either completely ignorant or you are a liar.

What a convincing argument.

I'm sooooo impressed.

The powers of financial capitalism had far-reaching aim, nothing less
than to create a world system of financial control in private hands
able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy
of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a
feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in
concert by secret agreements arrived at in frequent private meetings
and conferences."
-- Quote from Caroll Quigley's Tragedy and Hope, Chapter 20



Hard to debate when you are going to put forth blatant lies (like the one noted above) as historical fact.

Rhodes scholar and president of the USA William Jefferson Clinton
praised his mentors.

The only mentor he mentioned specifically was Carrol Quigley, author
of Tragedy and Hope.

So I'm telling a blatent lie, tell me more about your vast
store of knowledge.





Valerie Jarrett's dad is irrelevant. Obama's statements and policies vis a vis the government vs the private sector tell you all you need to know about how he views the world.

But Vallerie Jarret is relevant, she is BHO's closest advisor,
it is said he doesn't make any decision without her input and she
is the only member of his staff that is free to roam about the
2nd floor whitehouse living quarters of the Obama family.

Trevor Loudon's New Zeal Blog

A top communist defector is warning of an unprecedented “alliance” between the Democratic Party and the Communist Party, reflected in the CPUSA’s endorsement of Barack Obama for president in 2008 and the party’s continued support for Democratic Party policies. But is this warning going to be too hot to handle for the media? And the Republicans?

Lt. Gen. Ion Mihai Pacepa, the highest-ranking official ever to have defected from the former Soviet bloc, says in an article for PJMedia that any doubt that the Democratic and the Communist parties had secretly joined forces was erased in 2009, “when Van Jones, part of a left fringe of declared communists, became the White House’s green jobs czar.”

Obama aide Valerie Jarrett had disclosed at a left-wing bloggers convention that “we,” apparently referring to herself and President Obama, had hired Jones for the job. However, Jones was fired when an outcry developed over his communist background, and the media quickly dropped any probes into Jones’ White House contacts.

Pacepa, who served as a top aide in the Romanian communist regime, tells Accuracy in Media, “The Democratic Party has become dangerously infected with the Marxism virus. I recognize the symptoms because I once lived through them, and I believe it is my obligation as an American citizen to help the conservative movement to prevent any further spread of Marxism in my adopted country.”







You can't make this stuff up.

I offer ACLG as exsibit A.

Evidently there are Americans who are so dumbfounded.

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LG, you are American aren't you?
 
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Man I feel sorry for you gs, but then again from what I've gathered you must be one of those millionaire republicans. If not, just another uneducated follower.

Trevor Loudon's New Zeal Blog

The fact is that the FBI does not vet presidential candidates for national security purposes. There was no FBI investigation into Obama’s own background, associations, loyalty, and overall fitness for office. The FBI only probes those being considered for some federal positions under the president. It is not clear, however, if Van Jones was ever investigated. If so, he got the job anyway, and then-Fox News personality Glenn Beck and blogger Trevor Loudon discovered the truth, not the FBI.

Former FBI agent Max Noel told me that the Bureau used to investigate candidates for federal employment by analyzing Character, Associates, Reputation, and Loyalty to the United States. The first letters in those words make up the acronym CARL. By the standard of “A” alone—Associates—Obama flunks.

Obama was never investigated by the FBI, however. He captured the presidency and, with the help of the media, continues to outflank his Republican opponents, McCain then and Romney now.

Cliff Kincaid is the Director of the AIM Center for Investigative Journalism and can be contacted at cliff.kincaid@aim.org.

And here is the rest of the article posted below in response to Volham:

Trevor Loudon's New Zeal Blog

He adds that he is personally convinced that Obama is a Marxist.

His 1987 book, Red Horizons, exposed the nature of the Romanian Nicolae Ceausescu regime as well as “communist influence operations” directed against the U.S. and other Western nations. The contents of his book were broadcast into Romania on Radio Free Europe and credited with inspiring the counterrevolution that brought down the regime and the execution of Ceausescu.

Although he has written over the years for such publications as The Wall Street Journal, the American Spectator and National Review, his column in PJMedia represents the first time he has warned publicly that international Marxism has assumed a major influence over the Democratic Party. His second column for PJMedia examines appeasement policies by various Democratic administrations.

The issue of communist influence in the Democratic Party has already been on display this year, as blogger Jeremy Segal filmed Democratic Rep. Danny K. Davis, an old ally of Barack Obama in the socialist New Party,
accepting an award in Chicago from the CPUSA. I brought this to the attention of Steve Chapman, a “conservative” columnist for the Chicago Tribune, who had attacked Rep. Allen West as crazy for discussing communist infiltration of the Democratic Party. I provided Segal’s video of the awards ceremony to him directly and yet Chapman remains silent.

Columnist Wes Vernon commented, “Since Chicago is the neighborhood of Chapman’s newspaper, one would think he could easily access (right under his nose) the goings-on of a local congressman’s award possibly just a stroll down the street from the Tribune Building.”

Instead, Chapman has now written a column for the conservative website Townhall mocking conservatives who resist the encroachment of Islamic law, also known as Sharia, in the U.S. legal system. Chapman’s column ran under the headline, “The Bogus Threat from Shariah Law.”

When alleged “conservatives” like Chapman refuse to take the problems of communism and radical Islam seriously, you know the liberal media will resist covering these matters. And that is why Ion Mihai Pacepa’s warning, based on decades of experience in analyzing communist influence operations and infiltration of the West, will be deliberately ignored.

Some conservatives are so desperate for any coverage critical of Obama that they jumped on his gaffe that the private sector is “doing fine,” as if this will enlighten the American people about the real agenda of the President.

Mitt Romney’s campaign was quick to produce a TV ad based on the gaffe, generating some media attention, but don’t count on the Republicans to exploit the comments of Ion Mihai Pacepa. The cries of “McCarthyism” would fill the air. All of this means that the GOP presidential campaign will avoid addressing his key charge that the U.S. has a Marxist president and that he is pursuing a socialist agenda.

The Republicans, some of whom were also behind John McCain’s lackluster 2008 campaign, recoil even when they are handed a campaign issue on a silver platter—such as Obama’s lying about his past association with and membership in the Marxist-led New Party in Chicago. They want to stay above the fray, even as the Obama campaign demonizes the word “capitalist” and insists nonsensically that creating government jobs is the proper way to help the private economy.

But Pacepa speaks out, saying that, in addition to the White House hiring Van Jones, he saw the Marxist agenda at work in the agenda of the White House and the Democrat-controlled Congress during Obama’s first two years, when they “began dutifully following in Marx’s footsteps by redistributing our country’s wealth and putting under government control a part of its health care, banking system, and automobile industry.” His observation is this regard is not unique, but Pacepa goes further, citing evidence of how planks in the Communist Manifesto parallel the Obama legislative agenda. Yet, Romney doesn’t want to call Obama a socialist because of what the liberal media will say about the charge.

“Marxism is a malignant tumor on the body of any country,” Pacepa writes, highlighting the stakes involved in the presidential campaign. “This is another thing I learned during my years at the top of Marxist Romania. Marxism, like any cancer, works silently—you can feel it only after it has spread throughout the whole body, and then it is usually too late.”

Internationally, the warning signs also get ignored. The Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO), which includes Russia and China, just completed a major conference in Beijing and issued a statement denouncing plans for a U.S. missile defense and proposed military action against the regimes in Damascus and Tehran. Obama seems prepared to accommodate our adversaries on all fronts, although he has told the Russians that he can’t go all-out on their behalf until after he is re-elected.

The final statement from the SCO conference honors the United Nations Charter “as well as the basic norms governing international relations”—remarks that could have come from Obama’s State Department or Obama himself.

The SCO campaign to block Western attempts to undermine the Iranian and Syrian regimes represents what the Global Europe Anticipation Bulletin calls a “world geopolitical swing,” as the United States fades in influence under Obama. Yet, the media talk about an Obama “gaffe” and conservatives wonder if Romney can reduce the gender gap.

The issues are big and stark, and Pacepa knows it. He cites evidence for his charges about an alliance between the Democratic Party and the Communist Party USA in the statements of Joelle Fishman, a political operative in the CPUSA based in Connecticut. This writer interviewed Fishman, who runs the CPUSA Political Action Commission, at last year’s Take Back the American Dream Conference in Washington D.C., featuring Van Jones. She is a strong supporter of Barack Obama and personally campaigned for him.

On Monday, June 18, in Washington, D.C., Van Jones will be speaking at the next Campaign for America’s Future conference on a panel that includes MSNBC’s Melissa Harris-Perry. The topic: “Winning in November—So We Can Win in December and Beyond.” No surprise here. MSNBC is at the service of the Obama Administration and doesn’t hold back at all, even making its TV stars available for partisan conferences.

What is interesting about Fishman, the communist daughter-in-law of Soviet spy Victor Perlo, is that she works with “progressive” Democrats and has a very close personal relationship with high ranking Rep. Rosa DeLauro, a member of the Congressional Progressive Caucus who serves in the Democratic leadership as co-chair of the Steering and Policy Committee. A photo dubbed “The Kiss” shows DeLauro embracing Fishman.

Fishman and DeLauro appeared together on the host committee letterhead for a birthday celebration in honor of long-time CPUSA official Alfred L. Marder. DeLauro used the Congressional Record on March 20, 2012, to praise Marder, whose “New Haven Peoples Center” recently tried to obtain $300,000 in state money. Zachary Janowski, an investigative reporter for the Yankee Institute, covered this controversy in detail on his “Raising Hale” blog and was instrumental in creating public pressure against the grant.

DeLauro described Marder as “an institution in our community” and “perhaps best known for his work to promote peace, social justice, worker’s rights and equality.” DeLauro added, “His commitment to these issues is unwavering—regardless of controversy, he always stands firm in his fight to protect human rights.”

“During the McCarthy era,” DeLauro went on to say, “Al was one of those singled out for proudly sharing his thoughts and ideas. Standing firm in his support of civil liberties and the right of every American to freely express themselves, Al discovered his passion for civil and workers rights—two issues to which he has dedicated a lifetime of advocacy.”

In addition to being active for decades in the CPUSA, Marder was president of the U.S. Peace Council and a member and official of the World Peace Council, both of them international communist front organizations. DeLauro, of course, didn’t mention that.

The good news is that citizens of Connecticut are waking up. Veterans and local political leaders protested against the proposed state grant money for the communist headquarters. They got the money withdrawn. But the communists will be back. They never give up.

But while the state money has been withdrawn, at least temporarily, Zachary Janowski reports that the Board of Aldermen of New Haven, Connecticut, voted to allocate $25,000 in federal funds to the facility. The $25,000 in federal funds is from a Community Development Block Grant, a program of the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development. It is apparently part of the Obama “jobs” program.

Now would you like to present some sort of argument that Obama isn't a marxist?

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What a convincing argument.

I'm sooooo impressed.
The powers of financial capitalism had far-reaching aim, nothing less
than to create a world system of financial control in private hands
able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy
of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a
feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in
concert by secret agreements arrived at in frequent private meetings
and conferences."
-- Quote from Caroll Quigley's Tragedy and Hope, Chapter 20

I am not sure what this tells me concerning your claim regarding socialism.

Rhodes scholar and president of the USA William Jefferson Clinton
praised his mentors.

The only mentor he mentioned specifically was Carrol Quigley, author
of Tragedy and Hope.

So I'm telling a blatent lie, tell me more about your vast
store of knowledge.

I have read enough Marx to know that (1) he was not "the super super rich"; and, (2) he did believe that a truly egalitarian society could be created.

I do not care who Clinton's mentors were. I do not care who Carrol Quiqley is. I have read the writings that have had the most influence on socialism and I have drawn the conclusion that you are either ignorant (maybe you have never read Marx) or you a blatantly lying.
 
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GS, as I have said before I enjoy your posts and especially the cartoons. As you do, I have great concerns regarding the marxist in the white house. What is sad is that I do not believe the republicans are much better. You could just as easily make fun of the republicans in the same manner.
 
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GS, as I have said before I enjoy your posts and especially the cartoons. As you do, I have great concerns regarding the marxist in the white house. What is sad is that I do not believe the republicans are much better. You could just as easily make fun of the republicans in the same manner.

Well thanks.

I definately share your concern and I have had a parting of the ways with the RNC over just that.

Not that I am a lifelong republican, I've written in joke candidates in every presidential election since the late '60s until Al Gore and John kerry were the dem candidates and I just had had enough.

Rinos like Bush I and Bush II (fabian socialists really) are at least better than the other option if for no other reason than supreme court appointments.

How many more Bader-Ginsbergs, Sotomayors and Kagans can we stand before the republic falls?

We have four justices who don't even believe you have the right to protect yourself.

I've been contemplating starting a new thread titled 'war on rinos' or something like that all day.

Here is a preview;

Leading Rino Senators: (not a complete list)

John McCain (RINO-AZ)
Jon Kyl (RINO-AZ)
Lamar Alexander (RINO-TN) I didn't vote for him the last time he was up for reelection and the next time I will vote for his rep opponent, expect a tea party candidate, and if Lamar wins the primary I will vote for the damned democrat in the general.
Scott Brown (RINO-MA) Running against bogushantus the marxist indian.
Olympia Snowe (RINO-ME) Retired, OUT!
Susan Collins (RINO-ME)
Richard Lugar (RINO-IN) Lost primary, OUT!
Lisa Murkowski (RINO-AK) The good people of Alaska should have voted for her opponent endorsed by Sarah Palin who won the primary, the only reason she isn't OUT is because the damned socialist democrats voted for her.

I don't think very much of Rubio or Christie.

Collins, Graham, Gregg, Lugar and Snowe voted to confirm Kagan;

Alexander, Bond, Collins, Graham, Gregg, Lugar, Martinez, Snowe and Voinovich voted to confirm Sotomayor.

There were six republican senators who could have prevented some very bad legislation by just voting but didn't vote, Alexander and Corker were two of the six.

The legislation to which I refer is called the 'pedophile protection act' and was inserted into a defense spending bill that was sure to pass, those sailors gotta have their shore leave money you know.

This bill makes it a hate crime offense hurt a heinz's 57 variety of sexual offenders and get this, muslims, the only religious group were also included as being speciall protected.

Senator Grassley advanced an amendment that clarified that this bill would never infrince in first amendment rights and if it would have passed the dhimmirats would have just pulled their stupid bill and waited for a better time.

Grassley's amendment failed by one vote and there were six republican senators who didn't have the spine to stand up for our first amendment rights.

I am ashamened to say that Tennessee sent one third of those cowards to Washington.










I am not sure what this tells me concerning your claim regarding socialism.

Have you ever heard of a mobius strip?
Make one and see if you can figure it out your so damned informed and intelligent.

Reading material:

WALL STREET AND THE BOLSHEVIK REVOLUTION

WALL STREET AND THE RISE OF HITLER, by Antony C. Sutton




I have read enough Marx to know that (1) he was not "the super super rich"; and, (2) he did believe that a truly egalitarian society could be created.

I do not care who Clinton's mentors were. I do not care who Carrol Quiqley is. I have read the writings that have had the most influence on socialism and I have drawn the conclusion that you are either ignorant (maybe you have never read Marx) or you a blatantly lying.

Marx was kept up all his adult life by Engels who was very wealthy.

I don't give a good damn what you care about or what conclusions you reach.
 
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Have you ever heard of a mobius strip?
Make one and see if you can figure it out your so damned informed and intelligent.

Reading material:

WALL STREET AND THE BOLSHEVIK REVOLUTION

WALL STREET AND THE RISE OF HITLER, by Antony C. Sutton

Neither of these books focus on the philosophical theory of Marxism. The most the first one says regarding Marx is:
Consequently, one barrier to mature understanding of recent history is the notion that all capitalists are the bitter and unswerving enemies of all Marxists and socialists. This erroneous idea originated with Karl Marx and was undoubtedly useful to his purposes. In fact, the idea is nonsense. There has been a continuing, albeit concealed, alliance between international political capitalists and international revolutionary socialists — to their mutual benefit.

If you want to argue that those who have actually implemented socialist schemes are, for the most part, concerned with protecting their own capital, then go for it; I will not object. However, as I stated before, to make the claim that, "Socialism...is the brainchild of the super super wealthy and isn't meant to make everyone equal," is to state something that is unequivocally false.


Marx was kept up all his adult life by Engels who was very wealthy.

Negative; Engels was not "very wealthy"; his parents were extremely wealthy, though. Engels had to continuously work in order to support Marx (the "super super rich" did not work much in Continental Europe in the 19th Century).

I don't give a good damn what you care about or what conclusions you reach.

If you are going to comment on socialism, maybe you should actually read what Marx wrote.
 
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I don't give a good damn what you care about or what conclusions you reach.

Such a respectable Christian thing to say...........If I didnt know any better, I would say that you sound like a anti-christian mooselum
 
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1. Neither of these books focus on the philosophical theory of Marxism. The most the first one says regarding Marx is:


2. If you want to argue that those who have actually implemented socialist schemes are, for the most part, concerned with protecting their own capital, then go for it; I will not object. However, as I stated before, to make the claim that, "Socialism...is the brainchild of the super super wealthy and isn't meant to make everyone equal," is to state something that is unequivocally false.




3. Negative; Engels was not "very wealthy"; his parents were extremely wealthy, though. Engels had to continuously work in order to support Marx (the "super super rich" did not work much in Continental Europe in the 19th Century).



4. If you are going to comment on socialism, maybe you should actually read what Marx wrote.


1. No, not at all but they do demonstrate how the
capitalist financial powers enabled the rise of the two
greatest socialist states of the twentieth century,
ie; nazism and bolshevism.

2. Look who is promoting socialism in America, it is
the extremely wealthy foundations.

3. So his parents wrote Engels out of the will?

4. Ronald Reagan said it best; A communist is one
who has read Marx, an anti-communist is one who
has read and actually understood Marx.

If marxism is your religion then why do you deny being
a socialist?




Such a respectable Christian thing to say...........If I didnt know any better, I would say that you sound like a anti-christian mooselum

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His endless prevarications are are tiresome and boring,
as is your petty judgementalism.

I don't see you still trying to deny that Obama the
marxist diverted 1/2 billion $$$ to his commie cronys
in Chicago.

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1. No, not at all but they do demonstrate how the
capitalist financial powers enabled the rise of the two
greatest socialist states of the twentieth century,
ie; nazism and bolshevism.

2. Look who is promoting socialism in America, it is
the extremely wealthy foundations.

Promoting socialism is different from being the "brain-child" of socialism.

3. So his parents wrote Engels out of the will?

I do not know. I know that Engels worked his entire life to support both he and Marx (and their families). That does not strike me as the behavior of the "super super rich" in the 19th Century.

4. Ronald Reagan said it best; A communist is one
who has read Marx, an anti-communist is one who
has read and actually understood Marx.

If marxism is your religion then why do you deny being
a socialist?

Marxism is my religion? That is interesting. All this time I thought I disagreed with Marx's moral and economic theories...
 
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Promoting socialism is different from being the "brain-child" of socialism.



I do not know. I know that Engels worked his entire life to support both he and Marx (and their families). That does not strike me as the behavior of the "super super rich" in the 19th Century.



Marxism is my religion? That is interesting. All this time I thought I disagreed with Marx's moral and economic theories...

You tend to split hairs and talk in circles.

The truth of the matter is that Obama has surrounded himself with marxists his whole life.
 
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#48
You tend to split hairs and talk in circles.

The truth of the matter is that Obama has surrounded himself with marxists his whole life.

...and governed in a way that has neither been substantially nor fundamentally different from his predecessors.
 
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#49
Promoting socialism is different from being the "brain-child" of socialism.



I do not know. I know that Engels worked his entire life to support both he and Marx (and their families). That does not strike me as the behavior of the "super super rich" in the 19th Century.



Marxism is my religion? That is interesting. All this time I thought I disagreed with Marx's moral and economic theories...

you have morals?
 
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David "The Red" Axelrod's Communist Roots - Conservative Hideout 2.0 – Conservative Hideout 2.0

“He is imager of the image and narrator of the narrative. No single person is more responsible for making Barack Obama president. Come November 2008, it was nothing short of a stunning change for America, a genuinely historical feat the man known as Ax hopes to repeat in November 2012.

And it helps that the two—story-maker and story, composer and theme—think alike. “You know, he and I share a basic worldview,” Obama told the New York Times. “I trust his basic take on what the country should be and where we need to move toward—not just on specific policy but how politics should be able to draw on our best and not our worst.”

Born in New York in 1955, Axelrod says of his parents that they were, “your classic New York leftist Democrats.” But that doesn’t really do justice to the activities of his mother, Myril Bennett Axelrod. She worked for an extremely political newspaper, the liberal New York daily, the PM.

Existing only from 1940 to 1948, the problem at the PM was infiltration by communists pushing the “Stalinist line.” One such person was a confirmed soviet spy, I.F. Stone, among many others.

Axelrod followed in his mother’s footsteps and began writing a leftist political column for a local Chicago newspaper, the Hyde Park Herald.
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Following his father’s suicide, young Axelrod caught the attention of two men who would be instrumental in guiding his political leanings and by extension, Barack Hussein Obama’s as well.

Don Rose and David Canter began to mentor Axelrod and this brought him to the attention of the Chicago Communist Party USA. While Rose’s involvement with CP-USA has not been established, Canter’s communist activities are well documented. His father served time in jail for radical communist activities and eventually became the secretary of the Boston Communist Party. He ran for Governor of Massachusetts on the Communist Party ticket in 1930.

Harry Canter’s devotion to the communist party earned him an audience with Stalin in 1932 – he brought along his entire family, including his son, and future Axelrod mentor, David Canter. They stayed in Moscow until 1937, when they abruptly moved back to America, locating in Chicago and the CP-USA. Here Harry caught the attention of the Democratic controlled Congress in 1944.

Harry’s grandson Evan says, “He was a Communist. He was involved in the Party, as was my father.” Evan’s father is of course the above mentioned Axelrod mentor, David Canter.

David, like his father also caught the attention of Congress. He was called in to testify in 1962 before the Democrat-run House Committee on Un-American Activities, where he refused to answer questions about past or present membership in the Communist Party. Canter pleaded the Fifth Amendment from start to finish. Among the activities he was being investigated for was the riots during the 1968 Democratic National Convention. His publishing house was said by one source to have been a “great help” to one of the communist publications that had agitated and disrupted the convention: “We wouldn’t be anywhere without him,” said the source.

His partner, Don Rose was knee-deep in subversive activities as well. He was a member of the National Mobilization Committee to End the War in Vietnam. This group, of course, was the ultimate Who’s Who of Sixties radicals, and thoroughly penetrated by communist ringleaders. Rose did press work for the Mobilization Committee and for Students for a Democratic Society (SDS). Yes, the same SDS that gave birth to Bill Ayers’ domestic communistic terrorist group, the Weather Underground.

FDR had some communist agents highly placed in his administration but that is NOTHING to compare with the Obama administration.
 

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