After Pearson committment, how many...

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Man that would be hard to do to a kid ask him to look else where because there is somebody better who we want to take. Me personally I would take ever who committed first to me. But that's the world of cut throat college recruiting. GO VOLS!
 
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The numbers are really getting tight and this is something I've NEVER seen before with UT recruiting. Even Fulmer was filling out the class in late January and early February. We are at 27. I think we lose Kameel Jackson and I believe Paulk may well grey shirt because of the injury. I am not as big on the notion that Jerome Dews will grey shirt, I think the staff really wants him and he is showing why this season. That means we are at 25 and can ONLY sign 30 regardless of the 85 number. That leaves us with 5 more to take.

I know this is not a popular position to take here, but I truly feel that the Berry twins will in fact be preferred walk-ons (by their choice). They have not taken or scheduled an official visit to date that I am aware of and can therefore take on a scholarship for their sophomore season without it counting against this class. It will count against the 85 at that point. I just think that the Berry family are big enough supporters of UT that they would do this even though the twins truly have earned a scholly. We will see though. I would do this for my school and I believe Eric would as well.

My .02 for what it's worth. :peace2:

EDIT: Oh yeah! I don't believe it is in CBJ's character to pull a kids offer if they have completed their part of the agreement. He seems to be very straightforward that way. Besides, this class is just packed with great players that are really excited about the direction this coach is taking the program. I think natural attrition is all we can expect at this point. :peace2:
 
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InVOLuntary said:
I think Paulk could be a gray shirt candidate. If I were him I would prefer this. He's not going to be ready to play next season. He could stay home and take a couple of CC classes and rehab and be ready to go in the winter semester 2015. Win/Win IMO. He's a player though I don't want to lose him.
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If I were Paulk, NO WAY would I accept a GS. What happens when he does not come back 100% from the injury? Him taking a GS opens the door for him to be passed over next year when he THINKS he is to start his days at UT. A GS is a huge roll of the dice and I think the kid would be wise to not accept that option.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
If I were Paulk, NO WAY would I accept a GS. What happens when he does not come back 100% from the injury? Him taking a GS opens the door for him to be passed over next year when he THINKS he is to start his days at UT. A GS is a huge roll of the dice and I think the kid would be wise to not accept that option.
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Agreed. I'm not buying into Paulk taking a greyshirt role. I do think he is one that we will lose.
 
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Spirit_of_98 said:
Agreed. I'm not buying into Paulk taking a greyshirt role. I do think he is one that we will lose.
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I hope it does not play out that way. IMO, take the kid and allow him to sign with his 2014 class as he would have before the injury. Kids get hurt. If he is willing to put in the work to come back and play for the Vols, I am 100% behind him and hope he is a star in Orange. The pics of him already in the gym right after the injury tells me the kid is a warrior. Sign him up.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
If I were Paulk, NO WAY would I accept a GS. What happens when he does not come back 100% from the injury? Him taking a GS opens the door for him to be passed over next year when he THINKS he is to start his days at UT. A GS is a huge roll of the dice and I think the kid would be wise to not accept that option.
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Excellent point but does that not mean we're taking a huge risk by signing him now?
 
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InVOLuntary said:
Excellent point but does that not mean we're taking a huge risk by signing him now?
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I just feel the kid was offered/accepted a scholarship to play at Tennessee. Just because he got hurt busting his as* on the field should not take that away. With Lane, Pickett, Hill, Smith, and Hurd there is a good chance a couple guys won't play anyway. Let the kid sign and rehab at UT. JMO
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
I just feel the kid was offered/accepted a scholarship to play at Tennessee. Just because he got hurt busting his as* on the field should not take that away. With Lane, Pickett, Hill, Smith, and Hurd there is a good chance a couple guys won't play anyway. Let the kid sign and rehab at UT. JMO
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Not disagreeing with you. It might be risky for him but I think it would be in his interest to gray shirt, providing of course he is admitted for the winter semester 2015. JMO
 
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WillisVol said:
So who are those guys that you think will be looking elsewhere if we land some of these other prospects???
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I really hope we aren't speculating on VN which kids currently committed to UT we think will get told to look elsewhere. Not good.
 
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Have no info regarding who may (or may not) be dropped, replaced, or otherwise, from this year's recruiting class. However, I do have a friend who works for one of the major recruiting services. According to his counterparts who cover SEC recruiting, look for us to reel in Hendrix, Mosley, and Reed.

Not saying it's a done deal, just passing along information.
 
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secking said:
We can't just drop the guys already committed just bc a prettier girl has finally paid us attention. That would make us the biggest hypocrites since everyone here has railed bama for doing exactly that.

That is why you tell him up front where he is on your board and you don't take his commitment until the guys above him have went elsewhere. Therefore, I say Butch is a man of his word and doesn't push anyone out. If they are committed, we should be too.
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But she Can?? Thats what just makes me so Mad!. I'm having another drink. :crazy:
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
I hope it does not play out that way. IMO, take the kid and allow him to sign with his 2014 class as he would have before the injury. Kids get hurt. If he is willing to put in the work to come back and play for the Vols, I am 100% behind him and hope he is a star in Orange. The pics of him already in the gym right after the injury tells me the kid is a warrior. Sign him up.
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Oh I'd love for him to be apart of this class, absolutely. But I think if it comes to a greyshirt role, he's long gone, and he'd be making the right choice in my opinion.
 
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Spirit_of_98 said:
Oh I'd love for him to be apart of this class, absolutely. But I think if it comes to a greyshirt role, he's long gone, and he'd be making the right choice in my opinion.
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I agree. Asking Paulk to GS could very well push him to go elsewhere. Hope it does not happen. Parents and other recruits seeing CBJ and staff stick to their scholarship offer to the kid would mean alot IMO.
 
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17Vols said:
I really hope we aren't speculating on VN which kids currently committed to UT we think will get told to look elsewhere. Not good.
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I wasn't meaning to drop names specifically and I should have made it more clear what I meant. I guess I should have said what positions are most likely to look elsewhere.

Either way I just wanted to know where we stand now and that was cleared up. Thanks VN.
 
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SCvol333 said:
we will take 30 - you should count 26 now as Kjackson will not be a vol

you should also count the berry's as 2 spots

so really we have 28 on board

this means we can take 2 more after the Berry's before some of the current commits will have to look elsewhere

many think first will be dews as he will get a commitable (nongreyshirt) offer from a big boy program and leave

but if we sign 5-6 nonberry's still then several more after Dews will be looking elsewhere
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so we divide the remainder into berry and nonberry categories subtract a little here add a little here multiply # of games we win and points we score and pick 6s.....


BAM recruiting class 2014

"the math class"
 
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Dragon18 said:
The numbers are really getting tight and this is something I've NEVER seen before with UT recruiting. Even Fulmer was filling out the class in late January and early February. We are at 27. I think we lose Kameel Jackson and I believe Paulk may well grey shirt because of the injury. I am not as big on the notion that Jerome Dews will grey shirt, I think the staff really wants him and he is showing why this season. That means we are at 25 and can ONLY sign 30 regardless of the 85 number. That leaves us with 5 more to take.

I know this is not a popular position to take here, but I truly feel that the Berry twins will in fact be preferred walk-ons (by their choice). They have not taken or scheduled an official visit to date that I am aware of and can therefore take on a scholarship for their sophomore season without it counting against this class. It will count against the 85 at that point. I just think that the Berry family are big enough supporters of UT that they would do this even though the twins truly have earned a scholly. We will see though. I would do this for my school and I believe Eric would as well.

My .02 for what it's worth. :peace2:

EDIT: Oh yeah! I don't believe it is in CBJ's character to pull a kids offer if they have completed their part of the agreement. He seems to be very straightforward that way. Besides, this class is just packed with great players that are really excited about the direction this coach is taking the program. I think natural attrition is all we can expect at this point. :peace2:
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Preferred walk on? Please elaborate, I've seen that term used before but never really found out what it means
 
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When Dews committed it was because we offered him a spot in the 14 class. We had offered the GS scenario and he wasn't biting, but when we offered the spot, he committed. Can't rememember the exact timing, but that was what he said after he committed.

We have 3 spots left. I highly doubt K Jackson will be around much longer. From reports, it seems like Bryant will have trouble qualifying. So that gives us 5.....3 after the Berry's because there is NO way you do not offer them a scholly. If the pipe dream of them paying there way happens, they will be KINGS around here and have a building named after them when they leave, not just a street.



This was posted in Dews' thread.

“@_Romeyyyy: I WILL NOT GREYSHIRT!!!! #VolNation”

“@_Romeyyyy: Better get that out there wayyyyy better den some GREYSHIRT”

In case we weren't getting the message...
 
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KBVol said:
Doug Matthews stated a couple weeks ago, before we got Pearson's commitment and when we had 26 verbals at the time, that we did indeed have 26 commits, but that 4-6 that were currently on paper would not ultimately wind up signing and said that the Berry Twins, Charles Mosley and Cory Thomas were 4 that will be in this class and replacing 4 of those unnamed players.
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Good to know - when the numbers get this tight you can't take the chance on taking non-qualifiers so I think the other poster is right that guys that can't get their grades in order might be asked to look elsewhere - that being said they can just go to juco for a year or 2 and come back
 
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