Adidas deal to be finalized today per Chris Low

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DeerPark12 said:
I’m as Nike as they come, pretty much everything I own outside of the suits I wear to work is Nike. But you have to be willfully ignorant to think that this was a bad deal for Tennessee. I’m not going to buy nearly as much Tennessee sideline gear as I did when they were with Nike. But there are plenty of upscale brands making Tennessee apparel that I can buy instead. It would’ve been malpractice for Danny White to pass on an extra $10 million a year, plus an $2-3 million investment in NIL opportunities, just to stay with a brand that I would prefer to wear.
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Any chance that you know if the Volshop will be selling Rhoback stuff? I have a rather large gift card that is burning a hole in my pocket and I’m deciding whether to wait on it.
 
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volfan411 said:
Can we just close this thread with these 6 words Just Win that's all that matters!!!!
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No, because Just Do It is all that matters. If our athletes can't break their ankles in the same brand of shoe that Michael Jordan broke his ankle in, I'm transferring my allegiance to the Oregon Ducks (hell, I won't even have to change my username).
 
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adam.vol said:
My issue is that this contract is not the end all be all that it has been made out to be. We’re still going to have to wish and hope for a top 10 recruiting class. The difference in NIL spending won’t increase disproportionately to any other school’s current spending. The people for whom this deal is great are those who have to raise the money. They can keep up the same spending with less effort. But don’t expect our NIL to eclipse Texas’s or Georgia’s just because we swapped shoes.
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You’re going to have to explain what you mean there. The NIL deals handed out by Adidas are on top of the other NIL deals that players are making with the collective and with other businesses. They don’t replace those deals and they’re certainly not going to cause people that raise money to not work as hard to secure additional deals.

You’re right, our NIL spending will likely never eclipse Texas or Ohio State or Penn State, those schools have alumni bases and student populations more than twice as large as ours. This is one of the ways to help catch up.
 
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RDU VOL#14 said:
Any chance that you know if the Volshop will be selling Rhoback stuff? I have a rather large gift card that is burning a hole in my pocket and I’m deciding whether to wait on it.
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I was told they only sold their stuff online and not in stores. I don’t know if that will bear out long-term, but I’m not aware of any store in any market that sells their collegiate apparel.
 
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DeerPark12 said:
You’re going to have to explain what you mean there. The NIL deals handed out by Adidas are on top of the other NIL deals that players are making with the collective and with other businesses. They don’t replace those deals and they’re certainly not going to cause people that raise money to not work as hard to secure additional deals.
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It is my theory that a significant portion of our NIL contributions have come from a few wealthy individuals. I believe that love for a program persuades those donors from preventing mediocrity from our program. However, if we are able to adequately compete without their personal donations, they will probably decide to dial back personal contributions because no billionaire wants to be less poor to enrich 19 year old kids.

I believe that has been a factor with most of Danny White’s decisions, including the Neyland entertainment district and talent fee - to alleviate the financial burden on our wealthiest contributors.
 
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adam.vol said:
It is my theory that a significant portion of our NIL contributions have come from a few wealthy individuals. I believe that love for a program persuades those donors from preventing mediocrity from our program. However, if we are able to adequately compete without their personal donations, they will probably decide to dial back personal contributions because no billionaire wants to be less poor to enrich 19 year old kids.

I believe that has been a factor with most of Danny White’s decisions, including the Neyland entertainment district and talent fee - to alleviate the financial burden on our wealthiest contributors.
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As it stands right now the university can’t do NIL deals. The talent fee is to go towards the revenue sharing which will be capped at $20 million. We can’t pay them any more than that directly through the university.

And the rev sharing is distributed equally to teammates (broken up by sports). So it’s nice for low profile guys but for star players it’s minor. Real money still has to flow through NIL. The boosters were still paying players before NIL though, it’s just out in the open and because of that asking prices have skyrocketed.

Eventually it will have to come down or universities will have to cut back big time on all the bloat and nice facilities because boosters can’t sustain both at the current rate.
 
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adam.vol said:
It is my theory that a significant portion of our NIL contributions have come from a few wealthy individuals. I believe that love for a program persuades those donors from preventing mediocrity from our program. However, if we are able to adequately compete without their personal donations, they will probably decide to dial back personal contributions because no billionaire wants to be less poor to enrich 19 year old kids.

I believe that has been a factor with most of Danny White’s decisions, including the Neyland entertainment district and talent fee - to alleviate the financial burden on our wealthiest contributors.
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I can see how you got to that opinion, but it doesn’t bear out for one reason: the school itself can’t spend more than the $20.9 million revenue share cap each year. That part isn’t coming from the NIL donors, it’s coming directly from the athletic department bottom line. Getting more money from Adidas and more money one day from an entertainment district will help you make that number, but the difference in attracting talent will still be what they get through NIL on top of that revenue sharing number.

It could help you be able to tell your wealthiest donors to continue supporting the collective instead of, say, a facilities project. But I don’t know that it makes any real difference in alleviating those numbers. I do think there is a market correction coming when it comes to NIL, particularly if the clearing house really does stand up when challenged. They’re not going to be able to claim that the market rate for an autograph signing is $50,000 anymore.
 
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joevols89 said:
As it stands right now the university can’t do NIL deals. The talent fee is to go towards the revenue sharing which will be capped at $20 million. We can’t pay them any more than that directly through the university.

And the rev sharing is distributed equally to teammates (broken up by sports). So it’s nice for low profile guys but for star players it’s minor. Real money still has to flow through NIL. The boosters were still paying players before NIL though, it’s just out in the open and because of that asking prices have skyrocketed.

Eventually it will have to come down or universities will have to cut back big time on all the bloat and nice facilities because boosters can’t sustain both at the current rate.
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If I recall correctly, the Adidas deal begins are the same time that the NCAA settlement kicks in. Tennessee has fought against ridding of NIL, so I guess we still plan to pay for play through sponsorship.

I appreciate your point, nonetheless. It’s confusing at times to remember what money comes from which sources. So Adidas’s $20 million would go straight to the university while any additional contributions from Adidas would be used as NIL personal sponsorship?
 
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adam.vol said:
If you’re wearing hats made by shoe companies, get it together, man! They barely make decent shoes..
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Yeah the non-shoe brands make a bunch of ridiculous looking and fitting hats too. But everybody ain't me and there's a market for that obviously.
 
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adam.vol said:
If I recall correctly, the Adidas deal begins are the same time that the NCAA settlement kicks in. Tennessee has fought against ridding of NIL, so I guess we still plan to pay for play through sponsorship.

I appreciate your point, nonetheless. It’s confusing at times to remember what money comes from which sources. So Adidas’s $20 million would go straight to the university while any additional contributions from Adidas would be used as NIL personal sponsorship?
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The NCAA House settlement became final this past June and went into effect immediately. It has already kicked in.

UT is not receiving a $20 million check from Adidas every year. UT receives about $5 million a year in product to outfit every athlete and staff member on campus. They will receive cash in the neighborhood of $7-11 million per year, increasing in that range as the deal progresses.

Adidas has agreed to sign high-profile Tennessee athletes to direct NIL deals and give all athletes on campus access to the Adidas Brand Ambassador program, a spend on athlete NIL up to $5 million a year. That is outside of the revenue sharing number that is being paid by the University directly to the athletes.
 
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adam.vol said:
Forget it, man. The adidas people aren’t changing their minds for any argument or truth. Put their Euro trash racing stripes on every piece of clothing you own. Some people think that **** looks good!
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This is what Nike put out for Tennessee fans this year. If you think this looks good, any opinion you have on Adidas is irrelevant.
 

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whobethis16 said:
This is what Nike put out for Tennessee fans this year. If you think this looks good, any opinion you have on Adidas is irrelevant.
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We’re arguing about two different things. I’m not concerned with anything adidas or Nike produces for fans, aside from jerseys.

As I stated earlier, I buy Columbia or items made out of organic material. I’m more concerned with the team’s uniforms, going back to jersey sales. I stopped wearing shoe brand merch around the time I started earning paychecks.
 
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adam.vol said:
We’re arguing about two different things. I’m not concerned with anything adidas or Nike produces for fans, aside from jerseys.

As I stated earlier, I buy Columbia or items made out of organic material. I’m more concerned with the team’s uniforms, going back to jersey sales. I stopped wearing shoe brand merch around the time I started earning paychecks.
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The comment I responded to by you said "every piece of clothing you own". All you wear is jerseys?
 
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Vol_guy said:
This absolutely sucks!! I refuse to buy anything adidas. Their shades of orange have always sucked.
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Give me the details of the better deal in the NCAA. Now, taking anything less than biggest deal available would officially suck.

Call Danny White and see if he is good with you stepping totally out of the VOL picture if he stands behind this decision.

If Nike was not going to step up, what other avenue would be superior to THIS deal?
 
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adam.vol said:
I believe that has been a factor with most of Danny White’s decisions, including the Neyland entertainment district and talent fee - to alleviate the financial burden on our wealthiest contributors.
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It should also afford us the ability to make a move without having to go to a Star Chamber of donors for significant decisions.

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kcvols1 said:
It should also afford us the ability to make a move without having to go to a Star Chamber of donors for significant decisions.

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I don’t know why I worry about what Danny White does. All he’s done is get it right since he took the job. I still worry Adidas will try too hard to stand out rather than to respect tradition and keep it classy.
 
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vols 30 said:
Maybe it's an age thing, but i don't understand why people care if its Nike, Adidas or whoever. As long as its orange and white and UT is winning, who cares?

I have both Nike and Addias and they both fit and look perfectly fine
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Same here. I have as it turns out shirts from both companies and I couldn’t tell you which one was which. They are Orange with the Power T.. I wear both. It’s Big Orange apparel. I don’t care about the maker.
 
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