Adams on Point Again

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Adams: Vols will feel loss of Taylor : Columns : GoVolsXtra.com

Really good read by Adams. Right on target when saying:

If Fulmer intends to shake up the offense by bringing in an innovative coordinator with no ties to an offensive system that seemingly was in place when Columbus found our shores, I can understand letting Taylor go.

But if Fulmer is intent on rehiring a former UT assistant as his coordinator and maintaining offensive status quo, why allow Taylor to leave?
 
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If Adams can't figure out the difference between an NFL Offensive Coordinator and a college position coach, then he's got no business covering football.
 
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Adams does like to grind on Fulmer but, in this case he is saying something. I think that Fulmer is going to go a different direction. I don't think they will be running the same ol stuff. I hope it is not the spread though. I really hate that O but, I guess it's the new thing.
 
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If Adams can't figure out the difference between an NFL Offensive Coordinator and a college position coach, then he's got no business covering football.
Asking for competence in the Knoxville sports media is like requesting chastity in the Spears household.
 
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Adams does like to grind on Fulmer but, in this case he is saying something. I think that Fulmer is going to go a different direction. I don't think they will be running the same ol stuff. I hope it is not the spread though. I really hate that O but, I guess it's the new thing.

Why?

The spread is based on spreading the defense thin and exploiting the bad matchups that present themselves? Why do you dislike it?

Do you dislike some of the variants that are run like Florida's spread option? Or do you dislike the Shotgun 4-wide spread?

If you dislike it because you think it pidgeonholes our personnel too much, then you couldn't be further from the truth. Aside from speed, the necessary ingredient, it is very adaptable. And who disagrees with more team speed? I am all for team speed. We have atheletes all over the roster who could create mismatch problems, we just have trouble getting them the ball in space.

I'm tired of running an occasional reverse to a WR who is only on the field SOLELY to run that reverse out of an I formation with a TE. I would love to see our playmakers out in some space where they could do something with the ball.

That doesn't mean we can't still pound the rock when need be. I think there can be a balance between using spread formations and jumbo sets/I-formations (which you can still pass out of...not to mention you can still run out of spread formations..)
 
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If Adams can't figure out the difference between an NFL Offensive Coordinator and a college position coach, then he's got no business covering football.

Wasn't his main point not that Taylor is as good a play caller as K Brown, but that Taylor's recruiting and rapport with the players is even more valuable if the offensive system he's running is more or less on cruise control?
 
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Adams is indeed on point. He has the courage to say what a lot of other journalists are afraid to say.

Here's hoping that Fulmer has the courage to look beyond his own assistants and former assistants and find the best OC in the country. Remember Florida in 1995? Nebraska scored 62 points on the Gators in the Fiesta Bowl, prompting Spurrier to conduct a search for the best DC in the country. He hired Bob Stoops, and a year later the Gators held a national championship trophy in their hands.

If Fulmer installs Brown, Adkins, or Marrone as OC, I'll be disappointed, because none of them represent the fresh blood that the program needs. (Who would argue that any of these gentlemen are among the best offensive minds in the country?) On the other hand, if Fulmer goes outside the family and brings in a talented, creative, even unconventional offensive mind, and if he gives him the freedom to do things differently, then I'll give Fulmer his due.

If past history is any guide, Fulmer will take the super-conservative route and the offense will be same ole same ole until we land a recruiting class that allows us to out-talent everybody. But maybe I don't give him enough credit. One factor that may work in favor of bringing in fresh blood is Mike Hamilton. He's smart enough to know that same ole same ole won't cut it any more.

Of course, the offense wasn't bad this year. It was good enough to get us to the Outback Bowl. But I wonder: would Tebow have won the Heisman this year if he had come to Tennessee rather than Florida? Would he have even seen playing time at Tennessee? Would the OC have been daring enough to build an offense around him like Meyer did at Florida? Or would he have been slotted into an established offensive system and told to be patient until Ainge graduates? The answers seem pretty obvious to me. And THAT'S the difference between a great offensive mind and a line coach turned OC.
 
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Adams is indeed on point. He has the courage to say what a lot of other journalists are afraid to say.

Here's hoping that Fulmer has the courage to look beyond his own assistants and former assistants and find the best OC in the country. Remember Florida in 1995? Nebraska scored 62 points on the Gators in the Fiesta Bowl, prompting Spurrier to conduct a search for the best DC in the country. He hired Bob Stoops, and a year later the Gators held a national championship trophy in their hands.

If Fulmer installs Brown, Adkins, or Marrone as OC, I'll be disappointed, because none of them represent the fresh blood that the program needs. (Who would argue that any of these gentlemen are among the best offensive minds in the country?) On the other hand, if Fulmer goes outside the family and brings in a talented, creative, even unconventional offensive mind, and if he gives him the freedom to do things differently, then I'll give Fulmer his due.

If past history is any guide, Fulmer will take the super-conservative route and the offense will be same ole same ole until we land a recruiting class that allows us to out-talent everybody. But maybe I don't give him enough credit. One factor that may work in favor of bringing in fresh blood is Mike Hamilton. He's smart enough to know that same ole same ole won't cut it any more.

Of course, the offense wasn't bad this year. It was good enough to get us to the Outback Bowl. But I wonder: would Tebow have won the Heisman this year if he had come to Tennessee rather than Florida? Would he have even seen playing time at Tennessee? Would the OC have been daring enough to build an offense around him like Meyer did at Florida? Or would he have been slotted into an established offensive system and told to be patient until Ainge graduates? The answers seem pretty obvious to me. And THAT'S the difference between a great offensive mind and a line coach turned OC.

Well looks like you want Chris Hatcher or Gus Mahlzon.
 
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Adams is indeed on point. He has the courage to say what a lot of other journalists are afraid to say.

Here's hoping that Fulmer has the courage to look beyond his own assistants and former assistants and find the best OC in the country. Remember Florida in 1995? Nebraska scored 62 points on the Gators in the Fiesta Bowl, prompting Spurrier to conduct a search for the best DC in the country. He hired Bob Stoops, and a year later the Gators held a national championship trophy in their hands.

If Fulmer installs Brown, Adkins, or Marrone as OC, I'll be disappointed, because none of them represent the fresh blood that the program needs. (Who would argue that any of these gentlemen are among the best offensive minds in the country?) On the other hand, if Fulmer goes outside the family and brings in a talented, creative, even unconventional offensive mind, and if he gives him the freedom to do things differently, then I'll give Fulmer his due.

If past history is any guide, Fulmer will take the super-conservative route and the offense will be same ole same ole until we land a recruiting class that allows us to out-talent everybody. But maybe I don't give him enough credit. One factor that may work in favor of bringing in fresh blood is Mike Hamilton. He's smart enough to know that same ole same ole won't cut it any more.

Of course, the offense wasn't bad this year. It was good enough to get us to the Outback Bowl. But I wonder: would Tebow have won the Heisman this year if he had come to Tennessee rather than Florida? Would he have even seen playing time at Tennessee? Would the OC have been daring enough to build an offense around him like Meyer did at Florida? Or would he have been slotted into an established offensive system and told to be patient until Ainge graduates? The answers seem pretty obvious to me. And THAT'S the difference between a great offensive mind and a line coach turned OC.
good post.:thumbsup:
 
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Wasn't his main point not that Taylor is as good a play caller as K Brown, but that Taylor's recruiting and rapport with the players is even more valuable if the offensive system he's running is more or less on cruise control?

That is the point he is trying to make, but the idea that we would roll the dice on a coach with no playcalling experience because we are afraid we might lose a recruit is shaky at best. I don't see why people are so fearful that recruiting is going to go in the toilet as if Trooper Taylor is the only guy who can recruit. Winning football games is a better recruiter than Trooper Taylor ever dreamed of being.
 
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Adams is indeed on point. He has the courage to say what a lot of other journalists are afraid to say.

Here's hoping that Fulmer has the courage to look beyond his own assistants and former assistants and find the best OC in the country. Remember Florida in 1995? Nebraska scored 62 points on the Gators in the Fiesta Bowl, prompting Spurrier to conduct a search for the best DC in the country. He hired Bob Stoops, and a year later the Gators held a national championship trophy in their hands.

If Fulmer installs Brown, Adkins, or Marrone as OC, I'll be disappointed, because none of them represent the fresh blood that the program needs. (Who would argue that any of these gentlemen are among the best offensive minds in the country?) On the other hand, if Fulmer goes outside the family and brings in a talented, creative, even unconventional offensive mind, and if he gives him the freedom to do things differently, then I'll give Fulmer his due.

If past history is any guide, Fulmer will take the super-conservative route and the offense will be same ole same ole until we land a recruiting class that allows us to out-talent everybody. But maybe I don't give him enough credit. One factor that may work in favor of bringing in fresh blood is Mike Hamilton. He's smart enough to know that same ole same ole won't cut it any more.

Of course, the offense wasn't bad this year. It was good enough to get us to the Outback Bowl. But I wonder: would Tebow have won the Heisman this year if he had come to Tennessee rather than Florida? Would he have even seen playing time at Tennessee? Would the OC have been daring enough to build an offense around him like Meyer did at Florida? Or would he have been slotted into an established offensive system and told to be patient until Ainge graduates? The answers seem pretty obvious to me. And THAT'S the difference between a great offensive mind and a line coach turned OC.


Odds favor Brown, Adkins, or Marrone as OC. Two out of three have significant experience outside UT's system.
 
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Odds favor Brown, Adkins, or Marrone as OC. Two out of three have significant experience outside UT's system.
Marrone is the only one of those three that I would consider worth the loss of Trooper, and I am assuming that he would hire a couple of dynamic assistants who can recruit like crazy.
 
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That is the point he is trying to make, but the idea that we would roll the dice on a coach with no playcalling experience because we are afraid we might lose a recruit is shaky at best. I don't see why people are so fearful that recruiting is going to go in the toilet as if Trooper Taylor is the only guy who can recruit. Winning football games is a better recruiter than Trooper Taylor ever dreamed of being.

Fair point.
 
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