According to Da'Rick

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Lexvol said:
Tebow may be the closest a program has ever come to being the one player that does make a program. Yes...his defense was stout, but judging by the way things fell apart without his influence...one might make a case. That is one in a million though.
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Great! Had to go and ruin a perfectly good thread by mentioning Tebow.
 
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Let's say he comes back. How long before this happens again? A week? A day? That's my issue with Rogers. Great player , but this stuff just happens too much. Maybe his close friends on the team need to stop being so damn nice to him. Somebody tell "Prince Afeo" to get his head out of his ass and stop making himself and this university look stupid. Haven't we been through enough in the last 4 years to have this crap happening on day 3 of spring practice? He obviously doesn't care. Ask yourself why we should. Darick has a problem. He won't get out of his own way.
 
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Vol2424 said:
Let's say he comes back. How long before this happens again? A week? A day? That's my issue with Rogers. Great player , but this stuff just happens too much. Maybe his close friends on the team need to stop being so damn nice to him. Somebody tell "Prince Afeo" to get his head out of his ass and stop making himself and this university look stupid. Haven't we been through enough in the last 4 years to have this crap happening on day 3 of spring practice? He obviously doesn't care. Ask yourself why we should. Darick has a problem. He won't get out of his own way.
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So... what exactly has Da'Rick done to make the university look stupid?

Facts. Not something you heard on this board either.

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Oh yeah. As far as we know he has done nothing because we know nothing.
 
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Hayezb said:
So... what exactly has Da'Rick done to make the university look stupid?

Facts. Not something you heard on this board either.

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Oh yeah. As far as we know he has done nothing because we know nothing.
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Yeah, he's done nothing. Keep believing that.
 
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Hayezb said:
So... what exactly has Da'Rick done to make the university look stupid?

Facts. Not something you heard on this board either.

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Oh yeah. As far as we know he has done nothing because we know nothing.
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His tweets from last night, I would argue, were hurtful to the program
 
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Mo Couch, J. Hunter, J. James all tweeting about this De'Rick Rogers stuff.... obviously they're all overreacting over nothing.... :rolleyes:
 
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skeeter33418 said:
people within the ad still have no clue what DR has or hasnt done. Rumors swirling that he got into an argument with a coach yesterday/evening, also a rumor that he skipped a class or two. The coaches must be staying hush hush about it. Maybe Hubbs or larry can shed light on it.
If he broke any of the rules CDD put in place for him awhile ago, he better hold true to his word.
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what I've surmised is he skipped out on a meeting or class or something he was supposed to do. Dooley doled out some punishment to him and he thus far has refused to execute the punishment. Dooley has sat him down until he completes the punishment.

he could be back tomorrow or he could be back at end of April. up to him as to when he wants to complete the punishment (sounds like extra conditioning work, like running steps or something like that).
 
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LWSVOL said:
what I've surmised is he skipped out on a meeting or class or something he was supposed to do. Dooley doled out some punishment to him and he thus far has refused to execute the punishment. Dooley has sat him down until he completes the punishment.

he could be back tomorrow or he could be back at end of April. up to him as to when he wants to complete the punishment (sounds like extra conditioning work, like running steps or something like that).
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Sounds believable. That punishment needs to multiply mightily while he decides whether to do it or not!
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mitzustu said:
John Brice says he would sit a year..... at this point I think he stays
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I respectfully disagree. The NCAA guidelines show an exception to sitting out a year as stated:

You transfer from a Football Bowl Subdivision (formerly Division I-A) school to a Football Championship Subdivision
(formerly Division I-AA) school and have at least two seasons of competition remaining.

Georgia State is I-AA, Rogers has two seasons of competition remaining, so I think he can get an exemption. Now, if there are academic issues, all bets are off anywhere.
 
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bigorange61 said:
I respectfully disagree. The NCAA guidelines show an exception to sitting out a year as stated:

You transfer from a Football Bowl Subdivision (formerly Division I-A) school to a Football Championship Subdivision
(formerly Division I-AA) school and have at least two seasons of competition remaining.

Georgia State is I-AA, Rogers has two seasons of competition remaining, so I think he can get an exemption. Now, if there are academic issues, all bets are off anywhere.
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Georgia State moved to division 1-A in 2010


edit: I think I mis-read something. appears they MAY be D-1 this year but not even sure that is sure thing at this juncture. MY apologies.
 
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Honestly, when you're as talented as he is, you have to be a total bonehead to not play year 3 and then declare for the NFL draft. For Da'rick's sake I hope this works out and he stays at UT one more season and goes pro. For the school's sake I hope he wises up to part one of this post and just goes about his business without being a distraction.
 
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Vols4us said:
Wow. Let's have an election to see if a coach stays, a player stays, who is going to be the leader, etc. etc. It's a football team gang. UT's icon is a General that even the Bear could not beat. Does a General lead by asking the troops what to do and who to do it with?

How many Super Bowl rings does T. Owens wear on his fingers? How did team dissension and lack of HC leadership work out for LSU in the NC? Would Saban put up with a Duh'rick? Y'all know the answers. Grow a set.
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This...many times.
 
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Dude is a punk and a drain on the team. If he is deliberately not obeying authority, you have to cut bait or Dooley loses control of the team and loses all respect from staff and his team. Bad for business, go kick rocks Da'Rick
 
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The Waco Kid said:
The age discussion has to stop. I can guarantee you a vast majority of posters on here have never told a coach or boss "F*** You, I ain't doing sh**"

It's not longer an individual issue. It's a program issue. The good of the program is at stake.
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Of course I did, when I was young that is the whole rebellious part I was talking about. I haven't done anything like that as an adult unless that was going to be my last day on the job and I told them what I really thought of them. I guess I just see it differently.
 
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TreeGreen said:
Honestly, when you're as talented as he is, you have to be a total bonehead to not play year 3 and then declare for the NFL draft. For Da'rick's sake I hope this works out and he stays at UT one more season and goes pro. For the school's sake I hope he wises up to part one of this post and just goes about his business without being a distraction.
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Fact: I don't know the situation about the DR case anymore than anyone else on this board.

Fact: I have expressed concerns, perhaps better defined as hopes he isn't leaving. I also proffered advice to DR in case he's reading these threads.

Comment: If he's being a head case, despite the fact I'm a Vols fan and want us winning again, DR leaving isn't in itself what really concerns me.

What does concern me is the prospect of seeing yet another young African-American male throw away an opportunity. The opportunity is multi in nature. The chance to be a legend at a major university. The chance to play against high quality opposition and place himself into being a very high draft chance, which translates into BIG money simply to sign a piece of paper. And more big money if he plays up to his potential as a pro. Perhaps even become a franchise player which means even more big money.

But if he's going to give himself a reputation of being a difficult and uncoachable player, a lot of this opportunity vanishes or is greatly diminished. Additionally, that attitude can lead to him being targeted and ending his career by either an opposing player or a player from his own team.

Today, more and more conferences, including the NFL are taking steps to cooperatively bar head cases from playing for anybody. Coach talk to each other, call each other, share information about players among other things. Indeed, some of these coaches including those at the UT could end up being your coach again at another school or on the pro level and use their influence to either get rid of you or prevent your being hired to begin with based on their past experiences with you and your "known" reputation.

African-American males, especially have enough problems in getting hired due to social misconceptions and worse. Unnecessarily creating more problems just doesn't make an ounce of sense. Yet I have seen choice foolish choice making too many times. Hopefully, DR will not be yet another such case. But it's your call DR, yours and yours alone.
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
Fact: I don't know the situation about the DR case anymore than anyone else on this board.

Fact: I have expressed concerns, perhaps better defined as hopes he isn't leaving. I also proffered advice to DR in case he's reading these threads.

Comment: If he's being a head case, despite the fact I'm a Vols fan and want us winning again, DR leaving isn't in itself what really concerns me.

What does concern me is the prospect of seeing yet another young African-American male throw away an opportunity. The opportunity is multi in nature. The chance to be a legend at a major university. The chance to play against high quality opposition and place himself into being a very high draft chance, which translates into BIG money simply to sign a piece of paper. And more big money if he plays up to his potential as a pro. Perhaps even become a franchise player which means even more big money.

But if he's going to give himself a reputation of being a difficult and uncoachable player, a lot of this opportunity vanishes or is greatly diminished. Additionally, that attitude can lead to him being targeted and ending his career by either an opposing player or a player from his own team.

Today, more and more conferences, including the NFL are taking steps to cooperatively bar head cases from playing for anybody. Coach talk to each other, call each other, share information about players among other things. Indeed, some of these coaches including those at the UT could end up being your coach again at another school or on the pro level and use their influence to either get rid of you or prevent your being hired to begin with based on their past experiences with you and your "known" reputation.

African-American males, especially have enough problems in getting hired due to social misconceptions and worse. Unnecessarily creating more problems just doesn't make an ounce of sense. Yet I have seen choice foolish choice making too many times. Hopefully, DR will not be yet another such case. But it's your call DR, yours and yours alone.
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Has zero to do with him being AA
 
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San Diego Vol said:
Has zero to do with him being AA
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Yes it does. how the AA male is perceived, your conduct can either lend excuse to justify that perception, or flatly contradict it. The realities of our society and your behavior tend to be tied together whether we like it or not, and I definitely don't like it.
 
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What difference does his ethnicity or skin color matter? It is a crying shame for any young man, regardless of race and creed, to act like this and throw his life away like this.
 
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We all make bad/dumb decisions from time to time.

When an otherwise good guy/teammate makes bad decisions, I have some sympathy and don't have a problem with second chances.

When someone makes bad decisions, and gets called down for it, and then displays arrogance and disdain for the people in charge, my sympathy tank goes to empty real fast!!
 
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Tux said:
What difference does his ethnicity or skin color matter? It is a crying shame for any young man, regardless of race and creed, to act like this and throw his life away like this.
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Some young men have to deal with more things than other young men because society foists that burden on them. Now cool off, my post didn't come anywhere near to implying his skin color excuses being a bonehead, it was an admonishment. As an eyewitness to repeated incidents such as what I mentioned you and no one else will be able to tell me it isn't a fact. Fact or not, it still isn't an excuse. If anything it should be greater motivation to not feed misconceptions by acting like a jackass. If you can't understand this, go ahead and continue to argue it, I'm done with you.
 
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