Academic requirements

[chattaboogie]

I just saw where Orlando Brown is projected as the number 15 overall pick in this coming draft out of Oklahoma.

As I remember it he was locked into us before academic issues.

If this is really the entire reason he ended up at Oklahoma instead of TN it’s no wonder we have been trash lately. We need to get serious about winning and realize that Alabama and Oklahoma don’t care if their lineman can determine the area of a circle or not and we shouldn’t either.

 

[vols1707]

Fulmer as AD expect a change in academic requirements for athletes to be on par with the rest of the SEC in two years.

He has said he is going to give Pruitt everything he needs to be successful.

 

[UT Hill Man]

I just saw where Orlando Brown is projected as the number 15 overall pick in this coming draft out of Oklahoma.

As I remember it he was locked into us before academic issues.

That's always been the excuse, academic issues.

The truth is Butch had yet another 30 + player class lined up and had to jettison someone - Brown happened to to have borderline grades ( and was "only" rated a 3 star) so the staff pulled his scholarship rather than take a chance.

So don't put this on the school - the blame goes on CBJ.

And most of that class washed out anyway - Brown is lucky he never suited up for Jones.

 

[hmhawk]

Prolly need a good education for your life's career if you don't make it to the NFL. Just sayin'.

 

[USMC-TNVOL]

What? This has already been disproven. We had moron coaches is the problem. In 2014 and 2015, we had classes ranked 7th and 4th.

 

[utvolpj]

He had a sub-2.0 GPA and even OU thought he was juco bound. Had nothing to do with different requirements

 

[Sarms58]

What? This has already been disproven. We had moron coaches is the problem. In 2014 and 2015, we had classes ranked 7th and 4th.

Our kids have to meet the same minimum scores/grades as those going to Bama, , Oklahoma, Georgia and most every where else.

 

[livefaith]

Our kids have to meet the same minimum scores/grades as those going to Bama, , Oklahoma, Georgia and most every where else.

Orlando Brown could not get admitted here. He was able to at OU. I'm not sure what that difference was, but that was the report on that situation.

Before we go off the rails here. We once were able to get Travis Henry into school when FSU and others couldn't. Not sure how it all works.

 

[HuntlandVolinColo]

He should have had Dexter Manley take his SAT, then he could have played for the Vols!

Dexter Manley Can't Read | Manley finally gets a read on education he missed - tribunedigital-baltimoresun

 

[TJ1985]

The sad part is he probably wouldn't be a first round pick today if he remained a Vol. Player development was a little lacking with the last staff...

 

[OneVolNation]

That one exception you can say, "Pie are squared" with a grin and get credit for the right answer.

 

[VolsFan-TX]

Orlando Brown could not get admitted here. He was able to at OU. I'm not sure what that difference was, but that was the report on that situation.

Before we go off the rails here. We once were able to get Travis Henry into school when FSU and others couldn't. Not sure how it all works.

The way I remember the story was he had a 1.7 GPA, which would have prevented him from enrolling. TN pulled his offer. He finished the spring semester strong and took classes in the summer allowing him to meet the minimum requirements. It was reported (again if I remember correctly) the UT coaches felt he misled them about his GPA and did not think he would be able bring his grades up to meet the requirements. We moved on and OU took a chance with him.

 

[FLVOL_79]

The way I remember the story was he had a 1.7 GPA, which would have prevented him from enrolling. TN pulled his offer. He finished the spring semester strong and took classes in the summer allowing him to meet the minimum requirements. It was reported (again if I remember correctly) the UT coaches felt he misled them about his GPA and did not think he would be able bring his grades up to meet the requirements. We moved on and OU took a chance with him.

Wow.:blink:

 

[TNnative]

Orlando Brown could not get admitted here. He was able to at OU. I'm not sure what that difference was, but that was the report on that situation.

Before we go off the rails here. We once were able to get Travis Henry into school when FSU and others couldn't. Not sure how it all works.

They gave Henry questions related to having sex. Mind you, not ones taken from the freshman biology text book. It was close, but he passed. Luckily, there were a limited number of questions related to birth control.

 

[Raleigh-Vol]

It was a conference rule that he was not able to play for us but the big 12 did not have that rule and he was eligible. He met ncaa minimum.

 

[PineyBluff Vol]

A college freshman decided to try out for the football team.
"Can you tackle?" asked the coach.
"Watch this," said the freshman, who proceeded to run smack into a telephone pole, shattering it to splinters.
"Wow," said the coach. "I'm impressed.
Can you run?"
"Of course I can run," said the freshman.
He was off like a shot, and, in just over nine seconds, he had run a hundred yard dash.
"Great!" enthused the coach.
"But can you pass a football?"
The freshman hesitated for a few seconds.
"Well, sir," he said, "if I can swallow it, I can probably pass it."

 

[butchna]

Orlando Brown could not get admitted here. He was able to at OU. I'm not sure what that difference was, but that was the report on that situation.

Before we go off the rails here. We once were able to get Travis Henry into school when FSU and others couldn't. Not sure how it all works.

He had to pass a summer class to meet the minimum requirements for Oklahoma. The shock of being dropped most likely helped motivate him because it was nail bitingly close for them.

 

[orangeluvr]

The 2a has two rules that promote parity in CFB, the 85 scholarship and the standard GPA. Having a higher standard hamstrings a program and makes no sense at all.

 

[utvolpj]

It was a conference rule that he was not able to play for us but the big 12 did not have that rule and he was eligible. He met ncaa minimum.

That is wrong. No school thought he would be eligible based on his gpa

 

[overseasorange2]

I just saw where Orlando Brown is projected as the number 15 overall pick in this coming draft out of Oklahoma.

As I remember it he was locked into us before academic issues.

If this is really the entire reason he ended up at Oklahoma instead of TN it’s no wonder we have been trash lately. We need to get serious about winning and realize that Alabama and Oklahoma don’t care if their lineman can determine the area of a circle or not and we shouldn’t either.

Just need to know how to balance a check book.

 

[Lurker]

Having a higher standard hamstrings a program and makes no sense at all.

Unless, of course, you happen to be focused on running a serious university instead of an NFL farm team for entertainment purposes for a few weeks each year.

It is the extremely rare kid who can't do better than a 1.7 in high school, who has any business going to a university, especially on the extremely low statistical chance that a pro contract awaits at the end of the rainbow.

I blame Jones for a lot of shortcomings but this kid isn't one of them. Congratulations to Mr. Brown. He appears to have been the statistically rare exception. But there is absolutely no way anyone could have known, or even reasonably guessed, that this result would happen when the decision to use one of a very limited number of scholarship slots was made several years ago.

For whatever reason, OU took a chance on Mr. Brown and it appears to have paid off. I'd bet the great majority of other similarly situated bets made by programs every year don't ever come close.

 

[82_VOL_83]

This thread is a collection of rumor mongering and pure speculation. The 85 scholarships haven't created parity anywhere. Bama is still Bama, OU, OSU, MI, and Clem plug along like nothing happened. Parity is playing time. Bama can sign a zillion guys but if they aren't going to play, they will go elsewhere.

I have yet to see where our "more strict" guidelines for entry are hurting anything. I have yet to see the actual guidelines. I think this is simply another false rumor that some of our fans use as an excuse for why we have been down.

Our coaches have sucked for about 15 years with only occasional flashes of better than average. That is why, no more, no less.

 

[volfan102455]

Fulmer as AD expect a change in academic requirements for athletes to be on par with the rest of the SEC in two years.

He has said he is going to give Pruitt everything he needs to be successful.

My contributions stop if he lowers requirements. They should have to met the same requirements as any student.

And seriously if you think Tennessee's requirements are that different than the top schools in the SEC, you really are fooling yourself.

 

[KBVol]

My contributions stop if he lowers requirements. They should have to met the same requirements as any student.

And seriously if you think Tennessee's requirements are that different than the top schools in the SEC, you really are fooling yourself.

How ever will the program survive without your “contributions”? Besides, we all know you’re only hanging around here until you see where Lyle Allen is coaching next....then off you go to another fan forum with the screen name of “(mascot name)fan55200”.

 

[MyBloodRunnethOrange]

I just saw where Orlando Brown is projected as the number 15 overall pick in this coming draft out of Oklahoma.

As I remember it he was locked into us before academic issues.

If this is really the entire reason he ended up at Oklahoma instead of TN it’s no wonder we have been trash lately. We need to get serious about winning and realize that Alabama and Oklahoma don’t care if their lineman can determine the area of a circle or not and we shouldn’t either.

Not like they're there for an education or anything