Absolutely Horrible Game Management with 1:24 Left

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EastTNVol6240 said:
It’s not an occasional thing. Every year with consistency Heupel produces a road team that’s ready to play uninspired, unprepared, undisciplined football. As of recent his game management has also been terrible.

I wouldn’t let it get you so worked up Mrs H. Your husband honestly is a good coach. He’s just not a next level coach.
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Almost every year you’re going to find similar games from the best teams in the country. Pretending this is a CJH thing is indeed ignorant.
 
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EastTNVol6240 said:
First, I never said fire him. I’ve simply said I don’t think he’s next level for us.
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Your entire argument has been that he’s Mark Richt, we need to fire him, and find our Kirby.

EastTNVol6240 said:
This opinion proves to be correct until he proves it wrong.
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That’s not how that works.

EastTNVol6240 said:
Second, Heup was the problem against Ga. Not a 20 year old kicking a 47 yd FG.
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43 yard FG

EastTNVol6240 said:
He also made some terrible decisions/management last night. He continually gives us an unprepared, uninspired team on the road.
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Every coach has that happen every year. Saban vs South Florida. Clearly Saban is just Mark Richt.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Your entire argument has been that he’s Mark Richt, we need to fire him, and find our Kirby.



That’s not how that works.



43 yard FG



Every coach has that happen every year. Saban vs South Florida. Clearly Saban is just Mark Richt.
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My argument has been I don’t think he’s the guy to take the next step here. And it is how it works. Coaching success is based on results. The results were speaking of point to me being more realistic than you. We aren’t competing for titles or nattys. Just bc you don’t like it doesn’t make it less true. And once again yes every coach has bad games. We do it nearly every single time we leave the confines of Neyland. We don’t call that an exception.
 
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If we had lost this game, the media would be playing this topic on loop for days. But because we won the game, it won't even get discussed. That was terrible clock management. My girlfriend, who does not even watch football, was sitting with me and even she was panicking asking WTF?.
 
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EastTNVol6240 said:
I watch plenty of football. Every team has a bad day. You are correct. The problem is Heupel has set a precedent that we have to worry every single time we go play a lesser team on the road. You’re generalization is ignorant since we’re calling names. Elite teams and coaches don’t do it week in and week out.

Great teams and coaches go out and confidently win the games they are supposed to win with confidence. It’s supposed to be the exception, not the rule. Heupel has made it the rule here.
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Did you watch any of the 98-99 season? By your standards because we almost lost some close games Fulmer should've been fired before we even won that Natty. It's complete overreaction
 
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bluevols27 said:
Draw play with 15 seconds left? Let a whole minute just bleed lackadaisicaly. Horrible.
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Let’s get the facts straight. We ran draw because it was 3rd and 1. Got the 1st. The error was not calling a TO after that play.

We were not being lackadaisical letting the clock run, we were afraid if we didn’t move the ball MSU would get the ball back with a lot of time left. You can argue whether this was the right strategy or not but you can’t say we were being lackadaisical. It was on purpose.
 
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Two things...

1. I kinda understand letting some of the clock tick down on that one play in case we have to punt....but the entire 25 seconds that came off? Didn't give us any opportunity after we did pick up the first down.

2. The play with 13 seconds left--Aguilar held the ball way too long. With that much time left, it is a first read (maybe second read) and if no one open, chuck it....Holding that ball in the pocket left us with no other options

But seriously, chance for game winning drive and you let the clock expire with 2 TOs in your pocket? Right after you made that incredible drive to tie it up?

Where are the balls like when he and Hooker said, "let's end the game right here" vs. Alabama?
 
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Just curious how many of the Coaches on here would be saying “why didn't he just run out the clock” if he had went 3 and out and MS kicked a field goal to win it?
 
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EastTNVol6240 said:
My argument has been I don’t think he’s the guy to take the next step here. And it is how it works. Coaching success is based on results. The results were speaking of point to me being more realistic than you. We aren’t competing for titles or nattys. Just bc you don’t like it doesn’t make it less true. And once again yes every coach has bad games. We do it nearly every single time we leave the confines of Neyland. We don’t call that an exception.
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Just have the balls to say what you think. Dancing around it is weak and pathetic. “He’s Mark Richt”, “He ain’t it”, “we will never win an SECCG with him”, etc.

If you truly believe all those things, that “he ain’t it”, then you obviously believe we need to fire him.
 
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Vol8188 said:
I think the first 30 seconds or so we wasted was intentional. I don’t like the call, but I think it was.

After that we moved fairly quick. Like the 3rd down we run power, get the first, and snap the ball after only 1 second, that was impressive.

The last two plays Joey took too long and he needs to run out of bounds. Also needs to throw into the dirt rather than the stands to save time.
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Yeah it was intentional. I just feel like we should've got on our side of the field and closer to FG range before we went into clock burning mode.
Because we didn't we played frantic those last few plays
 
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TheVolsFrog said:
Yeah it was intentional. I just feel like we should've got on our side of the field and closer to FG range before we went into clock burning mode.
Because we didn't we played frantic those last few plays
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You can always burn seconds you don’t need at the end; but you can never get back seconds you need but no longer have.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Almost every year you’re going to find similar games from the best teams in the country. Pretending this is a CJH thing is indeed ignorant.
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Saban seemed to be the one exception. It was extremely rare for him to not have his team not focused and ready to play on any road game.
 
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OrangeVolMan said:
Let’s get the facts straight. We ran draw because it was 3rd and 1. Got the 1st. The error was not calling a TO after that play.

We were not being lackadaisical letting the clock run, we were afraid if we didn’t move the ball MSU would get the ball back with a lot of time left. You can argue whether this was the right strategy or not but you can’t say we were being lackadaisical. It was on purpose.
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I didn’t say it wasn’t strategic. It was bad strategery. But, yes, we were lackadaisical whether instructed to be or not.
 
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No one is saying that they should not have used as much time as possible it's just that we are saying too much time was used unnecessarily. To let 20 some odd seconds tick off of the clock to not even give yourself a chance doesn't necessarily equate to you're using all that time so the other team doesn't have that time. It was game clock mismanagement plain and simple. There's really no way to spin it to let the 20-something seconds go that more negatively affected you than it did the other team. There's just not a rational way to spin that.

Let's hear it straight from the horse's mouth with Coach saying that they probably should have taken the time out. He's admitting that he probably should have done that differently. If he can admit it why can't some of you? It's because of stubbornness and you took a position and you're doubling down and that still doesn't make it the correct decision. He's essentially saying if he had it to do over again he would have called the time out. Why can't you stubborn folks just say the same thing? Can't be wrong? Doesn't make you right just means you don't want to be wrong
 
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