Abraham Lincoln- the most unlawful president.

[FortSanders]

On May 27, 1862, Maryland's Talbot County courthouse was surrounded by Union troops to support federal Provost Marshals in the arrest of Judge Richard Bennett Carmichael. Four Provost Marshals barged into the Judge’s courtroom and bloodily bludgeoned him with the butt of a pistol in front of his jury and civilian spectators. Prosecuting attorney J.C.W. Powell rushed to the judge’s aid and the crier of the court ran to the window to call for the Sherriff, but both were physically subdued. All three were sent to Fort McHenry for imprisonment.

The next day the federal War Department issued a press release stating that the Judge had been imprisoned for treason. The press release was published in every major Northern newspaper and in Europe as soon as the news crossed the Atlantic. Judge Carmichael and attorney Powell were imprisoned for over 9 months under the harshest conditions without trial or charges ever placed against them.

These men were imprisoned and denied their basic constitutional rights to have legal counsel challenge the validity of their imprisonment, to be presented with charges, to have the government’s charges reviewed by a civilian court, to confront their accusers or to provide a defense in a civilian court of law. All these constitutional rights were denied because the President had suspended the sacred right of habeas corpus, an act that the Constitution had granted solely to Congress and not the Executive.

Let us not forget.

 

[luthervol]

On May 27, 1862, Maryland's Talbot County courthouse was surrounded by Union troops to support federal Provost Marshals in the arrest of Judge Richard Bennett Carmichael. Four Provost Marshals barged into the Judge’s courtroom and bloodily bludgeoned him with the butt of a pistol in front of his jury and civilian spectators. Prosecuting attorney J.C.W. Powell rushed to the judge’s aid and the crier of the court ran to the window to call for the Sherriff, but both were physically subdued. All three were sent to Fort McHenry for imprisonment.

The next day the federal War Department issued a press release stating that the Judge had been imprisoned for treason. The press release was published in every major Northern newspaper and in Europe as soon as the news crossed the Atlantic. Judge Carmichael and attorney Powell were imprisoned for over 9 months under the harshest conditions without trial or charges ever placed against them.

These men were imprisoned and denied their basic constitutional rights to have legal counsel challenge the validity of their imprisonment, to be presented with charges, to have the government’s charges reviewed by a civilian court, to confront their accusers or to provide a defense in a civilian court of law. All these constitutional rights were denied because the President had suspended the sacred right of habeas corpus, an act that the Constitution had granted solely to Congress and not the Executive.

Let us not forget.

You mean until now?

It all does sound eerily similar..........minus the Civil War part.......but there are those hoping.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Live look at @hog88 typing his first reply to this thread

 

[508mikey]

I live in Illinois and pay extra for license plates without Lincolns ugly mug on it

 

[volfanhill]

 

[BeardedVol]

You know things are going well when you have to start a thread to discuss Abraham Lincoln being "the most unlawful president" in an attempt to deflect from the actions of the current president.

 

[luthervol]

You know things are going well when you have to start a thread to discuss Abraham Lincoln being "the most unlawful president" in an attempt to deflect from the actions of the current president.

Surely he was cleverly trying to cast the spotlight upon trump.

A bit of a Catch 22 for some ......

 

[hog88]

The portrayal of Lincoln in this country is the epitome of "the victor writes the history".

 

[508mikey]

On May 27, 1862, Maryland's Talbot County courthouse was surrounded by Union troops to support federal Provost Marshals in the arrest of Judge Richard Bennett Carmichael. Four Provost Marshals barged into the Judge’s courtroom and bloodily bludgeoned him with the butt of a pistol in front of his jury and civilian spectators. Prosecuting attorney J.C.W. Powell rushed to the judge’s aid and the crier of the court ran to the window to call for the Sherriff, but both were physically subdued. All three were sent to Fort McHenry for imprisonment.

The next day the federal War Department issued a press release stating that the Judge had been imprisoned for treason. The press release was published in every major Northern newspaper and in Europe as soon as the news crossed the Atlantic. Judge Carmichael and attorney Powell were imprisoned for over 9 months under the harshest conditions without trial or charges ever placed against them.

These men were imprisoned and denied their basic constitutional rights to have legal counsel challenge the validity of their imprisonment, to be presented with charges, to have the government’s charges reviewed by a civilian court, to confront their accusers or to provide a defense in a civilian court of law. All these constitutional rights were denied because the President had suspended the sacred right of habeas corpus, an act that the Constitution had granted solely to Congress and not the Executive.

Let us not forget.

Take his statues down & take him off US currency

 

[LouderVol]

You know things are going well when you have to start a thread to discuss Abraham Lincoln being "the most unlawful president" in an attempt to deflect from the actions of the current president.

if Trump did about half of the stuff he was accused of by you guys, you would have an argument.

as much as I have railed his dumb ar$e and the problems with what he has proposed he hasn't crossed the same lines, or as many times as Lincoln did.

Lincoln:
actually suspended habeas corpus. arrested judges, and lawyers, with no accusation of a broken law, ignored the supreme court, increased the number of supreme court justices to an even number in order to get tied cases. he allowed West Virginia to be created even though the Constitution requires the original state to fully consent.
Trump:
did have one judge arrested, but for noted cause. has TALKED about a bunch of stuff.

 

[dalton_vol]

Lincoln, Obama, Biden (not really Biden though) some of the worse presidents we've had

 

[NorthDallas40]

The portrayal of Lincoln in this country is the epitome of "the victor writes the history".

Awwww… this is a disappointing first volley by you. Do better.

 

[dalton_vol]

The portrayal of Lincoln in this country is the epitome of "the victor writes the history".

There are a lot of books written that show the truth about how bad Lincoln was

 

[hog88]

Awwww… this is a disappointing first volley by you. Do better.

What more needs to be said?

 

[NorthDallas40]

What more needs to be said?

I had expectations of a more spectacular blowup is all

 

[hog88]

I had expectations of a more spectacular blowup is all

You're never changing the minds of the "ends justify the means" crowd that believe he preserved the union and freed the slaves so what's the use?

 

[Ritzwatch]

Lincoln was everything Trump wishes he could be. (Except for the assassin's bullet, of course; Trump one-upped Ole Abe there.)

 

[hog88]

Lincoln was everything Trump wishes he could be. (Except for the assassin's bullet, of course; Trump one-upped Ole Abe there.)

And his detractors portray him to be.

 

[midnight orange]

On May 27, 1862, Maryland's Talbot County courthouse was surrounded by Union troops to support federal Provost Marshals in the arrest of Judge Richard Bennett Carmichael. Four Provost Marshals barged into the Judge’s courtroom and bloodily bludgeoned him with the butt of a pistol in front of his jury and civilian spectators. Prosecuting attorney J.C.W. Powell rushed to the judge’s aid and the crier of the court ran to the window to call for the Sherriff, but both were physically subdued. All three were sent to Fort McHenry for imprisonment.

The next day the federal War Department issued a press release stating that the Judge had been imprisoned for treason. The press release was published in every major Northern newspaper and in Europe as soon as the news crossed the Atlantic. Judge Carmichael and attorney Powell were imprisoned for over 9 months under the harshest conditions without trial or charges ever placed against them.

These men were imprisoned and denied their basic constitutional rights to have legal counsel challenge the validity of their imprisonment, to be presented with charges, to have the government’s charges reviewed by a civilian court, to confront their accusers or to provide a defense in a civilian court of law. All these constitutional rights were denied because the President had suspended the sacred right of habeas corpus, an act that the Constitution had granted solely to Congress and not the Executive.

Let us not forget.

He almost could be considered the 1st President. He created the US as a nation and destroyed the republic.

 

[NorthDallas40]

You're never changing the minds of the "ends justify the means" crowd that believe he preserved the union and freed the slaves so what's the use?

Boy does that statement ring true on multiple fronts around here lately.

 

[hog88]

Boy does that statement ring true on multiple fronts around here lately.

Yes it does. They're about as bad as the "the stock market is the economy" folks.

Anyway, haven't had much time to fuss on here. Building a house, business is booming and shutting down the dairy (keeping little brother from blowing it all) has taken up a lot of time.

 

[Sandman 423]

You know things are going well when you have to start a thread to discuss Abraham Lincoln being "the most unlawful president" in an attempt to deflect from the actions of the current president.

Not defending the current resident, but can you please point out which one was "lawfull".

 

[NorthDallas40]

Yes it does. They're about as bad as the "the stock market is the economy" folks.

Anyway, haven't had much time to fuss on here. Building a house, business is booming and shutting down the dairy (keeping little brother from blowing it all) has taken up a lot of time.

Lol… sucker punch noted and logged for future reference

Good luck with the house. You’re gonna need it.

 

[hog88]

Lol… sucker punch noted and logged for future reference

Good luck with the house. You’re gonna need it.

Thanks. If it would stop raining for a few days I could get all the excavation done and start the footers. Rain is killing us.

 

[OrangeTsar]

There are a lot of books written that show the truth about how bad Lincoln was

Yeah, and some of them haven’t even been colored in yet