About that Mexican Border

[tigervol9802]

Here is an email excerpt I received from a friend of mine who is a missionary in Matamoros regarding the current situation there (he's an older gentleman so just factor that in while reading please) -

I want to try and bring you up to date on the events here. I will get a news letter out soon, but wanted to take this chance to bring you up to date as things are changing fast. When we arrived back home, we went immediately to Matamoros to visit some of the churches. We had lots of plans to make for a Pastor's marriage enrichment conference. Crossing the boarder seemed the same, but on our way to the camp that is on the South side of the city, we saw very few people on the streets. Arriving at camp we learned that during the last month of Sept. that on three different occasions a large number of armored military vehicles with 40 to 50 troops had come into the camp in the middle of the night and scared the caretaker half to death. They had him open every door of every building and every room was searched. During the day time on several occasions the helicopters would hover with guns pointed at the buildings. After several minutes they would land and check the buildings again. In the middle of the night groups of trucks arrived with dozens of men. Then for over three hours they would bring in cars with people in them and beat them up. The care taker has been staying in the trees for fear . The other day a group of men came dressed in uniforms but did not identify themselves . They questioned for some time the caretaker and his boys as to who owned the camp and how much money they were paid and when the owners came and went and where did they live. There was a shoot out just the other day that killed 42 solders plus others. They sent the fire department in to clean the streets of the blood. Every day and night there are killings and bombings. Afghanistan is safer than this place.

Long story short, we really, really, really need to focus on that border.

 

[azVolFan]

There is one county between the county I live in and Mexico (it's about 3 hours away by car so I'm not wanting to give the impression I'm right on the front lines or anything but I'm am close enough that fear creeps in for sure). You've probably seen my sheriff on TV and you'll find links to several stories on border violence on his webpage. We're all concerned but the federal government won't let us do anything about it. Sheriff Paul Babeu, Pinal County, Arizona

 

[azVolFan]

We hear of stories all the time about not just drug traffickers but the Mexican military crossing into the U.S. to protect the drug shipments. The news (of course) never covers it.

 

[tigervol9802]

We hear of stories all the time about not just drug traffickers but the Mexican military crossing into the U.S. to protect the drug shipments. The news (of course) never covers it.

It really is asinine if you think about it.

 

[IPorange]

We hear of stories all the time about not just drug traffickers but the Mexican military crossing into the U.S. to protect the drug shipments. The news (of course) never covers it.

The Mexican military is getting their heads chopped off for opposing the drug traffickers. That isn't military protecting the shipments, that's drug lord militias, which have equal training and sometimes superior equipment.

 

[BeecherVol]

The Mexican military is getting their heads chopped off for opposing the drug traffickers. That isn't military protecting the shipments, that's drug lord militias, which have equal training and sometimes superior equipment.

You hear many say that the military and law enforcement cross over to keep from losing their life.

 

[gsvol]

Next time you run into someone who says there is no terrorist threat on the southern border, show them this video.

 

[IPorange]

You hear many say that the military and law enforcement cross over to keep from losing their life.

That seems entirely plausible.

 

[gsvol]

University of Texas at Brownsville canceled classes and closed campus this weekend because of gunfire taking place across the Rio Grande in Matamoros and the violence caused officials to move the Red River Athletic Conference men’s and women’s soccer semifinals from campus to another location.

The violence is much worse in Juarez across the border from El Paso and about forty tourists were murdered in Acapulco recently.

I agree that the border deserves much more attention and I don't really care much about who crosses the border between Afghanistan and Pakistan, either direction.

For that matter I would much rather see America building churches in Mexico than mosques in Afghanistan.

 

[rebelvol]

I agree that the border deserves much more attention and I don't really care much about who crosses the border between Afghanistan and Pakistan, either direction.

For that matter I would much rather see America building churches in Mexico than mosques in Afghanistan.

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[KB5252]

The drug lord militias are usually a combination of ex military and gangsters. It is also suspected that there is at least some cooperation from within the regular Mexican military. They are highly trained and well equipped, in fact we can take credit for the training of these men since we taught some of them tactics but their services were later bought and paid for by the cartels. The Mexican government is fighting a limited campaign against these organizations but the problem is so large it is completely irrelevant. They may weaken one cartel only to have their rival take over.

We help the Mexican government where we can but the time has come to cut those losses and treat the border for what it actually is, a war zone. The time has come to treat it accordingly.

 

[myrobbins7]

No worries, when the Mexican currency becomes worth more than our currency all of this border worries will come to a halt, it wont be long.

 

[punkcat]

We hear of stories all the time about not just drug traffickers but the Mexican military crossing into the U.S. to protect the drug shipments. The news (of course) never covers it.

For every one story you hear about, there are hundreds of others you don't. You're correct, the media is ignoring it.

 

[gsvol]

The drug lord militias are usually a combination of ex military and gangsters. It is also suspected that there is at least some cooperation from within the regular Mexican military. They are highly trained and well equipped, in fact we can take credit for the training of these men since we taught some of them tactics but their services were later bought and paid for by the cartels. The Mexican government is fighting a limited campaign against these organizations but the problem is so large it is completely irrelevant. They may weaken one cartel only to have their rival take over.

We help the Mexican government where we can but the time has come to cut those losses and treat the border for what it actually is, a war zone. The time has come to treat it accordingly.

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Add to what you said the ever growing involvement of criminal moslem jihadist elements.

For Ben Anderson, finding prayer rugs and other such items means nothing.

"The illegals with prayer rugs pay $1,500-$2,000 to get across," he says. "These aren't the terrorists. The terrorists, al-Qaeda and others, pay between $30,000 and $50,000, and you'll never know they were here. It's very hard to catch someone of that caliber. "

"Your first hint will be some big explosion, then the lights will go on in people's heads. Aha, they came up through here. Cochise country is the Arab-terrorist corridor."

Anderson spent 30 years in the Army, retiring as a colonel. In Vietnam, he commanded two rifle companies with the American division, winning numerous medals, including two purple hearts and two silver stars. He has three master's degrees, has worked in Egypt and at the Pentagon, and has taught at West Point. Anderson publishes an online political newsletter called the Anderson Report. He bases his certainty that al-Qaeda is infiltrating Arizona on anonymous sources in Washington and elsewhere around the world.
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There's an area in South America called the Tri-Border Area. Have you heard about it before?

Represented are Hezbollah, Hamas, Colombian extremists, Chinese Triads and Russian Mafia groups, to mention a few. To this mix there are reports of Al Qaeda agents. This topic and area of high interest is seldom written about in western media, even rarely mentioned. It is of paramount importance to put this troublesome spot on the map and it needs exposure.

The area is also known as the "lawless triangle' or the "moslem triangle."

The Triple Border, a porous region where Brazil, Paraguay and Argentina converge, is home to more than 20,000 Arabs — mostly Lebanese moslims — as well as drug and arms traffickers, smugglers and counterfeiters. It has also been described by the U.S. State Department as a focal point for Islamic extremism in Latin America.

Arriving from the mideast, north Africa and other points, moslems commited to giving their lives to violent jihad are given training in camps in small arms use, demolitions/sabotage, Spanish language (sometimes English) and then assume a hispanic sounding name and head north using real or forged documents.

A high official of the Argentine government was arrested not so long ago for selling thousands of passports.

The same thing is happening in Venezuela as Chavez has forged close ties with Iran.

This is the main reason we are seeing more and more beheadings used in the drug wars as a terror tactic.

To illustrate that point a couple of things; a man I know does business in Mexico and has a very well connected associate down there, this past summer his host recommended they go out one evening for a couple of cervesas at the local cantina, as they approached the local villiage they saw two heads impaled on stakes on the outskirts of the villiage, his host made a u-turn saying; "this is not a good place for us to be senor."

Then, from the thread where I picked up the Georgia TV station video, a couple of people who live in Georgia commented with local knowledge as our ArizonaVol friend has here. one said he had moved recently from southern California and was totally surprised to find so many illegals in Georgia and another commented that in a rural county where he lived, authorities were occasionally finding headless bodies alongside their highways.

Recently: Huachuca City, Arizona Mayor Byron Robertson: "Last week... my police chief called me in and told me that an SUV-minivan had been stopped on I-10 with a 50-caliber machine gun mounted in the back and a rocket launcher."

 

[Burhead]

BBC News - Mexico mass grave: 18 kidnapped tourists found

Mass graves are something you read about in the former Yugoslavia or some third world African country, not something you expect to find just south of the border. I've had this debate with some friends and family and I say sooner or later we're going to have to get involved militarily. The cartels are better equipped the the Mexican police and military and I don't want some narco government operating on our southern border.

 

[gsvol]

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How's fishing over at new Johnsonville lately??

Not only is the current administration in Washington opposed to enacting rational immigration and border control but liberal judges across the land impede the process of the enforcement of the rule of law.

NY immigration judges deny 70% of deportation requests

Federal immigration judges in New York this year rejected 70 percent of deportation requests filed by immigration enforcement agents, continuing a trend that's grown markedly in the past six years, according to an analysis of government data released Tuesday.

The case-by-case study of the data showed similar rejection rates in fiscal year 2010 for other large immigrant cities, such as Los...

 

[azVolFan]

I'm starting to think it's less an immigration problem and more an invasion problem.

 

[gsvol]

I'm starting to think it's less an immigration problem and more an invasion problem.

Infiltration at a bare minimum.

This global trance of intellectual inversion, hallucinatory bigotry and appeasement of terror could be broken instantly if the big lies that sustain it were exposed for the malevolent fictions that they are.

 

[IPorange]

This global trance of intellectual inversion, hallucinatory bigotry and appeasement of terror could be broken instantly if the big lies that sustain it were exposed for the malevolent fictions that they are.

You come up with that yourself?

I'm just kidding. I know you didn't, as usual.

 

[IPorange]

No, the question is: how much of your posts outside of quotes are actually even yours, and how much is some random crap you read on an obscure political fringe blog?

You have very little original material. Most of it is pictures, quote boxes, and then quotes from people. And of the small fraction that remains, one only has to copy and paste it into google to see that you've ripped it word for word from somewhere else WITHOUT quoting it, as otherwise I guess your whole post would be inside of a quote box. Usually only the standard personal shot or attack at someone is actually your own writing.

Surely you can articulate your own opinions without such overwhelming aid from others. It's not like they're terribly deep thoughts anyway. Unless one is measuring in BS.

 

[gsvol]

No, the question is: how much of your posts outside of quotes are actually even yours, and how much is some random crap you read on an obscure political fringe blog?

You have very little original material. Most of it is pictures, quote boxes, and then quotes from people. And of the small fraction that remains, one only has to copy and paste it into google to see that you've ripped it word for word from somewhere else WITHOUT quoting it, as otherwise I guess your whole post would be inside of a quote box. Usually only the standard personal shot or attack at someone is actually your own writing.

Surely you can articulate your own opinions without such overwhelming aid from others. It's not like they're terribly deep thoughts anyway. Unless one is measuring in BS.

See if you can grasp this thought;










:finger3:

and I mean that sincerely.

Happy now??

Someday you will hear a loud popping sound, that will be you fiiiiiiinally pulling your head out.

Til then, ta ta, you just don't get it. :no:

 

[IPorange]

Ya, I don't get why you can't articulate your own beliefs without plagiarizing other wack jobs.

 

[gsvol]

Ya, I don't get why you can't articulate your own beliefs without plagiarizing other wack jobs.

Likewise I have no idea why you continually whack-off about my intellect or lack thereof and never address the topic.

I guess that will have to remain a couple of the universe's great unsolved mysteries, at least for now.

I'll give you a good example; do you have any opinion at all about our nation's lack of resolve in the enforcement of immigration policy at our southern border??

 

[KB5252]

I never understand your defensive posture to those who disagree with you. I don't know if you realize it or not but it comes off as rather immature and petty.

 

[CSVol]

I'll give you a good example; do you have any opinion at all about our nation's lack of resolve in the enforcement of immigration policy at our southern border??

Here's one man's opinion: There are certain elements in Congress (read Republicans) who are so entangled with businesses that depend on a steady supply of cheap labor to increase profits that they'll continue to foot-drag on any stiff enforcement of true border security.