a word of caution

#26
#26
btrotter said:
I dont think the defenses in the SEC were overrated last year. Florida clearly showed that by dominating Oklahoma in the title and supposedly Oklahoma had the best offense in the country. And remember the SEC offenses were up against the best defeneses (the SEC) in the country week in and week out. We cant help the BIG 12 threw the ball every down and played against sorry defenses. Thats why when Oklahoma played Florida, it showed just how good the SEC defenses were and how bad the BIG 12 were. You should list the rankings of the defenses Oklahoma went up against. So using the rankings of the teams offeneses in the SEC is misleading because of there beastly defenses.
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Good points to the Gator, but this post right here makes sense of it all. I had to recall the score first. But to the gator, buddy, if the B12 conference champion that's known for it's offense could only put up 14 points on our champion, then that is proof in the pudding. And the answer to the ranks of defense we had in the SEC is also explained by this post.

SEC defenses ARE indeed that good. People questioned that going into last year's title game and FLA had an answer for all of us in the conference.

I'm happy that such a good argument could be shot down by fact. To the "realists" on here... give kudos to this post I am replying to.
 
#27
#27
Regardless of how talented the offenses were Tennessee faced, they were on the field for 40 plus minutes most games.

They fact they didn't breakdown says a lot about the Tennessee defense.
 
#29
#29
the defense itself should be good...the question is how much will the dismissed starters hurt the secondary this upcoming season
 
#30
#30
The Dude said:
I don't read or hear our fans talking up this year's defense as great.
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uhh Tguess4? but i understand he could be the exception not the rule.
For those unaware of who i am talking about.. he claims that Tennessee will lose a maximum of 2 games.
 
#31
#31
eric4UA08 said:
uhh Tguess4? but i understand he could be the exception not the rule.
For those unaware of who i am talking about.. he claims that Tennessee will lose a maximum of 2 games.
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Doesn't every fanbase have guys who thinks they're winning the NC every year?

There are questions with depth on the DL, experience at LB, and we don't even know who will be eligible in the backfield. Most think we'll be good, hardly great, as in top 5 or 10 in national total defense.
 
#33
#33
The other side of this is even if we do say UT's defense was ranked highly due to inept SEC offenses do we really expect SEC offenses to be way better this year? There are 2 proven QBs in the entire league. UT's defense should hold up well against most of the teams on their schedule.
 
#34
#34
99gator said:
florida had the fortune of having a month to prepare for oklahoma.
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the big 12 and sec cg were played on the same day(12/6/08) so wouldn't OU and UF have the same amount of time to prepare for each other?

unless you account for the 4 hr difference between game times.
 
#35
#35
99gator said:
i have seen many people put a lot of faith in monte kiffin and the tennessee defense this coming season.

i, personnally, believed that all defenses (including florida's) in the SEC were overrated last season. the offenses in the league were horrible.

here are the rankings for the offenses tennessee faced last season.....

UCLA 111
UAB 56
Florida 15
Auburn 104
Northern Ill. 83
Georgia 22
Mississippi St. 113
Alabama 63
South Carolina 97
Wyoming 108
Vanderbilt 117
Kentucky 106

if you notice, six of those schools ranked #100 or worse. south carolina came in at a whopping #97. that's over half the schedule. only two of those offenses were ranked in the top 50, florida and georgia.

florida did not turn the ball over and punted once. georgia put up 458 total yards. both converted over 50% on third down.

i don't think it's the kind of unit that most people here believe.

monte, as well as lane, is going to need some time to get a higher level of talent to tennessee.

i would be careful about putting too much faith on that defense to be "great" this season.
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That is a nice point you make. However, you did not point out how horrible the Tennessee offense was last year. The defense was on the field the entire game. 3 and outs the whole year. You also didnt mention that Tennessee actually outgained Florida in yardage last year. They gave up 450+ yards to Georgia and only gave up 26 points. This offense will no doubt be better this year (cant be worse), and Monte's D is based around turnovers and hardcore hustle. The whole attitude has changed around the team. One thing that Monte I am sure will bring to the D that will be a refreshing pace from last year is this.... adaptation. He will adapt to the other teams gameplan!
 
#36
#36
99gator said:
i have seen many people put a lot of faith in monte kiffin and the tennessee defense this coming season.

i, personnally, believed that all defenses (including florida's) in the SEC were overrated last season. the offenses in the league were horrible.

here are the rankings for the offenses tennessee faced last season.....

UCLA 111
UAB 56
Florida 15
Auburn 104
Northern Ill. 83
Georgia 22
Mississippi St. 113
Alabama 63
South Carolina 97
Wyoming 108
Vanderbilt 117
Kentucky 106

if you notice, six of those schools ranked #100 or worse. south carolina came in at a whopping #97. that's over half the schedule. only two of those offenses were ranked in the top 50, florida and georgia.

florida did not turn the ball over and punted once. georgia put up 458 total yards. both converted over 50% on third down.

i don't think it's the kind of unit that most people here believe.

monte, as well as lane, is going to need some time to get a higher level of talent to tennessee.

i would be careful about putting too much faith on that defense to be "great" this season.
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You should be spending your time worrying about losing Percy Harvin, not about the Vols.
 
#38
#38
Bassmanbruno said:
Of course the SEC offenses are ranked pretty low. They play SEC defenses.

And of course we're going to give up quite a bit of yards to Florida and Georgia. Our defense was on the field 57 minutes of the game.
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Exactly! I was thinking the same thing.

As far as teams with "great offenses" go, I thought that mental lapse was put to rest by Florida and Ole Miss last bowl season.
 
#39
#39
99gator said:
i have seen many people put a lot of faith in monte kiffin and the tennessee defense this coming season.

i, personnally, believed that all defenses (including florida's) in the SEC were overrated last season. the offenses in the league were horrible.

here are the rankings for the offenses tennessee faced last season.....

UCLA 111
UAB 56
Florida 15
Auburn 104
Northern Ill. 83
Georgia 22
Mississippi St. 113
Alabama 63
South Carolina 97
Wyoming 108
Vanderbilt 117
Kentucky 106

if you notice, six of those schools ranked #100 or worse. south carolina came in at a whopping #97. that's over half the schedule. only two of those offenses were ranked in the top 50, florida and georgia.

florida did not turn the ball over and punted once. georgia put up 458 total yards. both converted over 50% on third down.

i don't think it's the kind of unit that most people here believe.

monte, as well as lane, is going to need some time to get a higher level of talent to tennessee.

i would be careful about putting too much faith on that defense to be "great" this season.
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#40
I'm more concerned about the recruiting rankings the last few years then I am about the offensive rankings of the teams UT played. The talent is not as good as it has been.
 
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#41
#41
99gator said:
i have seen many people put a lot of faith in monte kiffin and the tennessee defense this coming season.

i, personnally, believed that all defenses (including florida's) in the SEC were overrated last season. the offenses in the league were horrible.

here are the rankings for the offenses tennessee faced last season.....

UCLA 111
UAB 56
Florida 15
Auburn 104
Northern Ill. 83
Georgia 22
Mississippi St. 113
Alabama 63
South Carolina 97
Wyoming 108
Vanderbilt 117
Kentucky 106

if you notice, six of those schools ranked #100 or worse. south carolina came in at a whopping #97. that's over half the schedule. only two of those offenses were ranked in the top 50, florida and georgia.

florida did not turn the ball over and punted once. georgia put up 458 total yards. both converted over 50% on third down.

i don't think it's the kind of unit that most people here believe.

monte, as well as lane, is going to need some time to get a higher level of talent to tennessee.

i would be careful about putting too much faith on that defense to be "great" this season.
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who cares about these stats? UT held UAB's 56 ranked offense to 3 points but Vanderbilt's 117 ranked offense scored more than that. stats do lie... but i understand what you're saying... but i got a question for you, how can you say monte or lane's system won't be flawless. they haven't played any games for you to judge.. i think the sec is a step down from nfl using your statistics :zeitung_lesen:
 
#43
#43
99gator said:
i have seen many people put a lot of faith in monte kiffin and the tennessee defense this coming season.

i, personnally, believed that all defenses (including florida's) in the SEC were overrated last season. the offenses in the league were horrible.

here are the rankings for the offenses tennessee faced last season.....

UCLA 111
UAB 56
Florida 15
Auburn 104
Northern Ill. 83
Georgia 22
Mississippi St. 113
Alabama 63
South Carolina 97
Wyoming 108
Vanderbilt 117
Kentucky 106

if you notice, six of those schools ranked #100 or worse. south carolina came in at a whopping #97. that's over half the schedule. only two of those offenses were ranked in the top 50, florida and georgia.

florida did not turn the ball over and punted once. georgia put up 458 total yards. both converted over 50% on third down.

i don't think it's the kind of unit that most people here believe.

monte, as well as lane, is going to need some time to get a higher level of talent to tennessee.

i would be careful about putting too much faith on that defense to be "great" this season.
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You don't watch UT football as closely as we do. I know that I am not alone when I say that there were numerous times when our defense could have been even better last year without terrible coaching and we still managed to have one of the statistically best defenses.
We lost a few key players but will be bringing in talent across the board on D.

How many of those SEC teams had lesser stats because of playing against SEC defenses? UF showed how much superior D is in the SEC when they played OU.

The talent that we recruited in 2007 when we had a top 3 recruiting class is coming into their own and will be helped out by some of the stellar freshmen like Myles and Jackson.

We will have Montori Hughes coming in from JUCO at DT and he will get a starting job very quickly. Marlon Walls is by all accounts a beast and might get playing time at DT.

Jerrod Askew should also get on the field early and could be the next J. Mayo. Our secondary will be stacked for years to come and our DE's will much more productive than last year.
 
#44
#44
That defense wasn't as good as the stats. One of the worst on third down conversions. That something the lsu faithful can get used to hating this year. This years defense will probably be decent to solid i don't see it being all world either, thank you captain obvious.
 
#45
#45
Cartervol said:
That defense wasn't as good as the stats. One of the worst on third down conversions. That something the lsu faithful can get used to hating this year. This years defense will probably be decent to solid i don't see it being all world either, thank you captain obvious.
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Chavis will be better than what they had prior. LSU's defense was bombed last year despite quality talent.
 
#46
#46
I am so happy I do not have to watch the Mustang ever again. I doubt Monte will let a team run the same play 3 times in a row as UGA did when it passed to V Haynes for the victory in Neyland as my entire section shouted loud enough we hoped Slade and/or Chavis would hear us and adjust.

If TN had their opponent held to a 3rd and long, you felt worse as a fan than if the opponent had 3rd and 2. Darndest thing...
 
#48
#48
tkemo said:
You also have to remember that these sec schools go against great defenses week in and week out. That in itself will make sec offenses look worse statistically.
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Best point in the thread thus far. I bet the Big 12 and Pac-10 had some great offenses because they have no defenses.
 
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