A Terrible look for Heupel and Vols [Roc Taylor]

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CAVPUT said:
What's really bad is that it's signing day and all we have to discuss is Heupel pulling a scholarship from a 3 star non-qualifier with a handler. They've ruined what most college football fans considered a "holiday" type event that we looked forward to with so much anticipation. Just can't wait for free agency, paying college players and more games in front of cardboard fans. Just giddy over what the game has become.
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College Football has been ruined by the early signing period and the playoff, they're about to lose a lot of fans
 
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tennrich1 said:
I personally see no scenario were Tennessee would be paying this kid a penny to play here. I don’t think you’re suggesting we would. He signed with Memphis over UAB and maybe Jackson State. I agree that the offers weren’t there too. There’s always the possibility I could be wrong.
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I think under Cornbread a lot of recruits were most likely being paid.
 
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Volsfaninva917 said:
This is Byron De'Vinner who "represents" Roc Taylor
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Mr. De'Vinner was banned from UT's campus UNTIL his good buddy Jeremy Pruitt got hired. This is the same guy that tried to bring down another school in conference because after a player he represented signed with said school, the player got paid but Mr. De'Vinner didn't get "his". JH is doing the right thing by staying far away from this guy
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Liked CeeLo much better as a singer.

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Best school he can sign with is Memphis, but yeah he totally had a commitable offer from us. 🙄
 
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This is what you have to deal with in recruiting, this is his coach;

“I just told them that Tennessee is to never come on our campus wherever I am,” Etheredge said. “They’ve got no shot at any kid I will coach. They’ve offered (2022 DB) Tre’Quon Fegans. They’ve offered (2023 OL) Bradyn Joiner. That orange has me seeing red.

Now did UT do something wrong in not signing this kid ? It all depends who you believe. Did the kid and coach know that his grades were a problem and did they get those issues taken care of ? Did the previous staff make promises to anyone ? Did the new staff reach out or did they think the other staff had dropped the offer ?

It is a bad look but I think, like most things that you see in the media today this story was thrown out there for shock value and make UT look worse than it already does. They media really does like to pile on UT every since the "Trailer Park Frenzy" comments 25 years ago. We get more than our share of bad press, some deserved and some not so much but I think this this has nothing to do with this kid, every school has done it, as much as it has to do with just getting in another shot.

If they had taken the time to do some background research before throwing this out there they may have rethought there airing but then again it was another chance for a good gig.
 
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ZippyMorocco said:
This is a really bad look.
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If the same thing happened to a player that had committed to Bama, tOSU, Clemson, UGA, or Florida; it would not make too much of a stir.

But, since Tennessee is in the situation that it currently finds itself in, this is yet another reason for people to pile on.
 
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Brian Rice talked to a member of Pruitt's staff about all this, Roc was not allowed to sign in December as it appeared he could not qualify. He (and his idiot coach) were advised what he needed to do in the next 60 days to try and get eligible - and NONE of that was done or even attempted. So the "coach" is FOS and knows it. That being said, I hope he gets admitted to UM and does well, but otherwise everyone needs to move on.

I posted this on the RF for the posters that can’t understand that the kid was not in academic standing to sign with UT.
 
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Not a terrible look by Heupel, people need to grow up. He has offers to several schools, Heupel or any new coach need to be able to sign some guys that they want and I'm tired of kids committing to a coach instead of a school. If he wanted to e here than sign in December and guarantee your spot, If you are waiting to see if you are gonna like the new coach and if you approve, get out! Be HERE, BE Committed, BE A VOL!
Taylor go to Auburn and quit crying!
 
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Etheredge said what Tennessee did was “bush league.” He told the site that he had talked to new Tennessee assistant Alex Golesh and Golesh said that the new Volunteers staff was unsure if Taylor would be eligible to play in 2021. If that truly was a concern, it couldn’t have made the call to Etheredge earlier?


Heupel had been on the job a week.

1 week.

If anyone is to blame for the time frame and concerns about eligibility it should be Pruitt and his staff.

But I guess he was too busy plotting his pending lawsuit with his lawyers and getting a job in NY to care about Taylor.
 
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A new coach has a right to chose whom he wants to recruit, it isn't like he started off recruiting him and then yanked his offer. Also these kids can dump a school now at the drop of the hat, I guarantee you most coaches at power 5 schools would do the same thing if they inherited a short time to recruit and wanted to get their best players possible. Players should always have backup plans just in case. GBO!!!!
 
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I want no part of anything or anybody associated with Byron Devinner! Period...end of story. That dude has been run out of more high schools and counties as a whole that anybody I've ever heard. That high school coach appears to be a piece of work too. If you have a "recruitable" athlete, you make sure you get him every bit of help he needs in order to get eligible. If you are only concerned with keeping him eligible "enough" to play for you and don't care about his future, you shouldn't be in charge of kids or a program. I realize some kids struggle and don't qualify....happens all the time. The point is the coach shouldn't be spouting off at the mouth to the media about a D1 program not signing their kid when they wouldn't be able to get in school in the first place. rant over...
 
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HollowaytoSeivers said:
If the same thing happened to a player that had committed to Bama, tOSU, Clemson, UGA, or Florida; it would not make too much of a stir.

But, since Tennessee is in the situation that it currently finds itself in, this is yet another reason for people to pile on.
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It's not that the offer was pulled. It's because it was pulled the day before NSD.
 
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This article kinda sums up the status of Tennessee football.
Most everyone was a celebrated success on National Signing Day.
That’s the joy of earning scholarships to go to college. There are no losers in that game. Just maybe better winners.
Not Tennessee, though. Volunteers football has problems for their problems, and it just keeps getting worse for Rocky Top. Tennessee took a hard ‘L’ by choice on Wednesday, and had to put in work to do it, too.
Tennessee is so lost these days it even figured out a way to lose at a thing where everyone’s a winner, National Signing Day. Or what used to be the traditional NSD, but is now just a day to sign scholarships. The new “real” NSD happened back in December, and this one was just so Alabama could sign another five-star running back.

A team that has lost 14 consecutive years to the Crimson Tide, Tennessee and its new football staff might now be dead on arrival around pockets of Alabama for what it did on Tuesday to Oxford High School football player Roc Taylor, who ended up signing with Memphis on Wednesday. In a scenario that almost feels like it was orchestrated by a public-relations saboteur, Tennessee, according to Oxford coach Keith Etheredge, unexpectedly pulled Taylor’s scholarship offer less than 24 hours before one of the biggest days of his young life.
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Taylor is far better off at Memphis, and for Tennessee that’s the cold reality of being the winner of National Signing Day’s award for worst run football program in the country.
 
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Mike_3720 said:
This article kinda sums up the status of Tennessee football.
Most everyone was a celebrated success on National Signing Day.
That’s the joy of earning scholarships to go to college. There are no losers in that game. Just maybe better winners.
Not Tennessee, though. Volunteers football has problems for their problems, and it just keeps getting worse for Rocky Top. Tennessee took a hard ‘L’ by choice on Wednesday, and had to put in work to do it, too.
Tennessee is so lost these days it even figured out a way to lose at a thing where everyone’s a winner, National Signing Day. Or what used to be the traditional NSD, but is now just a day to sign scholarships. The new “real” NSD happened back in December, and this one was just so Alabama could sign another five-star running back.


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A team that has lost 14 consecutive years to the Crimson Tide, Tennessee and its new football staff might now be dead on arrival around pockets of Alabama for what it did on Tuesday to Oxford High School football player Roc Taylor, who ended up signing with Memphis on Wednesday. In a scenario that almost feels like it was orchestrated by a public-relations saboteur, Tennessee, according to Oxford coach Keith Etheredge, unexpectedly pulled Taylor’s scholarship offer less than 24 hours before one of the biggest days of his young life.


If true, that’s shameful, but also glaringly, in the words of Etheredge, “bush league.” New Tennessee coach Josh Heupel just made his task of fixing Tennessee’s mess that much more difficult by the way he managed this. I tried to get in touch with Tennessee’s coaching staff to understand the Vols’ side of the story, but, shockingly, no one would talk.

Now, understand, football recruiting can be a pretty grimy deal, but this goes beyond the pale because it gets worse. The way Taylor’s saga all played out was a window into the ugly (and unhealthy) back room of football recruiting.

After allegedly pulling the offer, Tennessee then tried to get Taylor to take responsibility for the decision. A Tennessee staffer suggested, according to Etheredge, that Taylor announce he was flipping schools. Happens all the time, of course, but Etheredge wasn’t letting Tennessee off the hook so easily.

This was on Tennessee, he said. Taylor had stayed loyal to Tennessee for months and months, and passed on scholarship offers to schools like Florida, Florida State and Georgia Tech. Even when Tennessee fired Jeremy Pruitt, Taylor apparently still was planning to attend Tennessee. His Twitter timeline is filled with artwork of him wearing Tennessee uniforms.

Making it somehow even worse still, a coach who hasn’t even been officially hired by Tennessee then tried to shift the blame on Taylor for maybe not being able to qualify. Gross. I don’t know Taylor’s academic standing in his senior semester of high school during a pandemic, but I do know that for many months last year schools and students were so disrupted by COVID-19 that admissions offices all over the country waved required test scores for this year’s graduating class.


The most obvious answer is probably the closest to the truth. It’s all just more stunning incompetence by Tennessee, an outfit that launched an investigation to dig up dirt on itself so it could fire Pruitt with cause in order to try and weasel its way out of a huge buyout. It’s just more grinding unprofessionalism from a place that fired former athletics director John Currie because he wanted to hire Greg Schiano (now at Rutgers) and Mike Leach (now at Mississippi State). It’s just more dysfunction by a university that forced Currie’s replacement, athletics director Phil Fulmer, a Tennessee football legend, to go away amid another sweeping volley of embarrassment.

At some point, you gotta wonder if Tennessee is trying to sabotage its football team into an irrelevant oblivion. Pruitt is suing Tennessee for his $12.6 million buyout, and they’ll probably settle out of court because we all know Tennessee doesn’t want the light of truth shined on its laughably absurd kangaroo court.

Tennessee, at this point in its ridiculous and obnoxious tragedy, is dragging its entire conference down into the mud with it.

The recruiting heads will tell you that this kind of thing happens all the time. It doesn’t, though. Not like this. Not after Oxford’s Taylor spent large parts of a junior and senior year dealing with the stress of school and football during a pandemic on top of everything else young people have to deal with these days. The light at the end of the tunnel was Tennessee. Imagine being Taylor on Tuesday before National Signing Day, and having your world suddenly fall apart. Infuriating.


Taylor is far better off at Memphis, and for Tennessee that’s the cold reality of being the winner of National Signing Day’s award for worst run football program in the country.
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So his high school coach didn't know is grade status in December when Pruitt alerted him and Roc that there was a issue? What am I not understanding?
 
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Maxwell865 said:
This article shows why SDS is like the CNN of college football reporting..... Exaggerated Truths, biased takes, and fake concern. O'Gara acting like he has the student-athletes in mind when he just wants clicks and AD revenue.
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Big deal out of nothing.
Kid had a chance but couldn’t get his grades up to qualify.
Timing was bad but who fault is it really? His HC and him for not following through and getting his grade up.
Wondering if some Happy Meals were promised too?🤷🏼
 
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