A Terrible look for Heupel and Vols [Roc Taylor]

#78
#78
GoodmanVol said:
Agreed, it ain’t fair.
But you do have a choice in how you conduct your business. Doing business like this reflects poorly on Volnation.
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Oh trust me Volnation needs no help looking bad. We can do that all on our own. There is no way we should have taken this kid knowing he was not what we wanted and would never play. That would have been much worse.
 
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USAFgolferVol said:
I went through it 40 years ago and loved the experience
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We loved the process also , my son decommitted on a team late in the process . They put trust in us but he got cold feet because of the distance from home. I felt we had let them down because he waited so late to tell them . So it goes both ways .
 
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utvolpj said:
Callahan
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The bad look isn’t on Heupel or UT. The bad look is on this fly by night HS Coach spouting off. He’s either totally out of touch with Roc’s recruitment (highly unlikely) including the fact that UT coaches haven’t been in touch with his guy in awhile, OR he’s fabricating a story to cover Roc (likely).

And Adam Spencer reports the HS coach’s comments without trying to include additional context. And that passes for “journalism” these days.
 
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Lol Florida did the exact same thing two days ago (or whenever Arik Gilbert announced his transfer plans) to a 3 star OL. And they don’t even have a legitimate excuse of having an entire new coaching staff to fall back on like UT does. That HS coach sounds like a douche tbh. The blowhards must really need clicks today. I know it’s hard but you guys need to just ignore these hit pieces. BaD lOoK fOr tHe pRoGrAm lolz. ***** just silly.
 
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I feel sorry for the recruit but I think everyone is smart enough to realize that when a team changes head coaches it changes what type of guys they want to recruit. It's not like this is the first time it's ever happened.

Which is the better outcome....tell the kid now so he has a chance to find a place where his skillset fits in or take the kid and have no use for him on your team? I think the answer is pretty obvious.
 
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I'm a big fan of leveling the playing field: schools often "recruit over" a kid they've offered to help the program so I'm a big believer kids should be able to transfer freely to help their interests. Fair is fair.

HOWEVER, this one isn't passing the smell test.

This young man needs to take care of business and not be in a "will be eligible soon" situation. If you're going to blame the school for pulling your ride, you'd better be ready to ride. It's your future, Roc, and you have to make it happen on your end or I'm suspicious of your commitment to YOURSELF, much less UT. If you end up at a JUCO because you didn't do your work, that's not on UT.

Second, the fact that Golesh is named in the AL.com article is someone "outing" an unannounced incoming coach to put UT in an awkward spot. Classless on behalf of Roc's coach, but I smell Saban just taking a cheap shot.

I don't like it. I'll be curious to see how CJH responds. Welcome to the SEC. Roll up your sleeves, coach, it's on.
 
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Cathead Biscuits said:
Says right in the report that the kid currently isn't eligible. How can you not be eligible by NSD? Schools pull offers last minute all the time, especially when they know that have someone of similar skill and currently eligible able to fill the spot.

The coach wants us to gamble on a kid who doesn't have the drive to make his dreams happen, and **might** be eligible by the time school rolls around.
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I like Cathead biscuits and Red Eye Gravy.....
 
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GoodmanVol said:
Really bad look.

For those of you saying “it can go both ways” you’re wrong. Just wrong.

School offers scholly, kid commits, coaches accept, kid shuts down recruitment. Makes financial decisions knowing college is paid for. Tells his family and community “I made it! Got a ride to get my education!” Makes friends on group chats with his future teammates, dreams about running through the T into Neyland on gameday. Feels confident and loyal for sticking with the Vols through all the turmoil.

School pulls offer at 11th hour....

Other schools that previously offered might be full or took others at the position - classes sewn up. Kid struggles to find a vacancy anywhere, much less a P5 program. Remember - P5 scholarship offers are very coveted and hard to earn. Has to tell friends/family/community he’s no longer good enough. Maybe has to settle for JUCO or Division II.

Switch it, kid decommits or flips last second...

Coaches hop on database of literally thousands of high school athletes, and the transfer portal. Fill the position pretty easily or maybe over the summer. Worst case an extra counter for 2022 or give the walk on kicker a scholly. School has others in the position on the roster already so really NBD.

You look me in the eye and try to tell me it’s all fair game.
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Well yeah it sucks. Sure. But **** happens and even more **** happens during a coaching change. Is this coach and player unaware that UT has completely flipped the coaching ranks? I’m sure the kid is disappointed and it does suck, I don’t think anyone is arguing that, but to make it seem like evil UT planned some devious plot to **** on some kid at the last second is absurd. What should they have done? What would be fair in this situation? Should Heupel have just given a scholarship to a kid he didn’t offer and doesn’t think fits his system sign on just to honor the offer from the previous coach? Ridiculous.
 
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It is unfortunate and never looks good, but it happens all the time in most places. So often, as is the case here, there is a lot going on. You read the article so I won't rehash, but the player has some responsibility for this to happen as well.

For those equating this with commits that flip schools on NSD, I agree. Both leave the other side without many options that might have been available if it happened earlier. I give our staff a pass on this one though, given they just got on the job here.
 
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I'm fine with 'the look'. JH gets to reconsider who is on his team. The headline however? Kind of terrible.
 
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So UF recently received news that they were the lucky winners in the Arik Gilbert sweepstakes. The highest rated TE in the history of 247. Florida is pretty much full and doesn’t expect to sign anyone tomorrow.

Shortly after AG’s announcement UF and 2021 3* OL Adrien Strickland “parted ways.” Some of the logic in here would dictate that UF should have told the highest rated TE recruit in history “sorry, nah, we already committed to this 3* OL. GL, tho lolz.” Give me a freakin break. It’s a good thing some of you guys aren’t big time college coaches. It’s the epitome of cutthroat and as you all know, the weak do not survive. And before anyone comes back with “but UF didn’t do it the day before NSD.” NSD is not some magic day/date that cuts off all movement. There will be transfers and signings pretty much until June.

I feel for this kid. I feel for Strickland. It sucks and I’m sure disappointing but by no means is it the end of the world. You cannot expect some kind of white knight code of honor in big time college football. That’s completely unrealistic.

In case the tweet doesn’t embed:

I did not de-commit Florida dropped my offer before I signed BTW ! - Adrein Strickland, former UF commit.




 
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Funny that we justify our school doing it by referring to our most hated rivals that have no class. Funny that we love Cade Mays (at the time) for transferring here, but Wanya is a pos for transferring out. Also, so many are ‘everything has changed with the coaching staff’ for this situation, but we said all the transfer portal guys were selfish for not ‘giving the new staff a chance.’

Just f***ing admit that when it benefits UT, it’s ‘a business decision’, but when a player makes a decision that benefits them, it’s ‘immature, no character, prolly a cheater.’ Embrace that we’re all hypocrites and be ok with it.

I would think, us being football fans, that we would know that players transfer, especially when there is a coaching change. I would think, us being football fans, that we would know that coaches are chasing paychecks, not friendship awards, when they recruit.
 
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