A Sermon for VolNation?

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5012 said:
Sorry I confess to being lazy ….and there’s no excuse for it... I mean with the bible being a complete work of fiction I could have found lots of appropriate analogies…
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:bad::spank::machgun:devilsmoke::bash::realmad:
 
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5012 said:
Sorry I confess to being lazy ….and there’s no excuse for it... I mean with the bible being a complete work of fiction I could have found lots of appropriate analogies…
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That was so necessary. Total douche
 
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preacherwebb said:
Mods, please read this and give it a chance before you delete it or move it.
It's really not a religious kinda thing, as much as a moral of the story kinda thing. Thanks in advance for your consideration.

Ever so often we hear a Bible story used in sports, to depict the battle between the underdog who seemingly has no chance, and the undefeated champion who's going to crush said underdog. That story is of David and Goliath.

But I would like to give VolNation another story from the life of David; one that I think we can make applications to our current situation.

It's the story of David and the Amalakites, found in I Samuel 30. The long story short goes something like this:
David and his men had been off fighting in battles, and were returning home (Bible students now the details of David's actual affiliation with the Philistines, and being kicked to the curb). Upon returning home, he finds his hometown, Ziklag, burned to ashes, and all their wives and children had been taken prisoner. The Bible says, "the soul of all the people (his men) was grieved" and that they even "spake of stoning him." Can you imagine that? David has lost just as much as any of them, if not more, and they are going to stone him at such a time as this? But they didn't stone David. Instead, they gave him an opportunity to seek out their loved ones and destroy the enemy. By the end of the chapter, the Bible goes on to say that "David recovered all that the Amalekites had carried away" and that " there was nothing lacking to them, neither small nor great, neither sons nor daughters, neither spoil, nor any thing that they had taken to them: David recovered all."

Now, how exactly can we apply this story and it's principles to our current "dilemma?" I'm glad you asked.

David is Dooley. We, the fans, the players, the coaches, all of VolNation, are his men.

We shouldn't think that David (Dooley) has lost nothing in this situation. As a matter of fact, he's probably lost as much or more than anyone involved. Furthermore, it may seem natural to want to pick up stones and stone him; afterall, he's the leader and should be held responible in our minds.

But maybe, just maybe, rather than stone the man, we should give him an opportunity to see if he can salvage the situation, and recover all UT has lost the past few years. He may even recover all.

If he fails, then at least we gave him an opportunity.

I must admit that I've been ready to stone the man like many of you have. But, I've dropped my rock to the ground, and am willing to support him long enough to at least see if he can fix this. In reality, next year ought to be about enough of an opportunity, IMO.

Well, I've said what I felt I needed to, and, like all sermons, some will hear and be helped while others will ignore while still yet others will scoff. I can't convince anybody. I can just tell the truth.

What are you gonna do with your rock?

PS - Coach Dooley, if you read this and like it, invite me to come and give the whole story to the team. I'll be in Newport (about 1 hr away from K-town) the week of Christmas. :)
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Great Post! Would love to see a positive, united Vol Nation.
 
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jim43 said:
Great Post! Would love to see a positive, united Vol Nation.
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When we are back on top, until then unfortunately we have to deal with those who have neither the fortitude or foresight to support the current regime. It was a great post...Love to hear a good bible reference when dealing with these down years in Tennessee Football.
 
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Permit me to respectfully disagree with what you are trying to make this story from 1 Samuel say. Using your logic, everyone who feels President Obama has not done a good job in his first term should vote for him a second time to see if he might not do better in the future. In fact he should not be criticized at all, just supported.
By the same token, no one should ever be discharged from a job. Instead, we should wait and see if they might not do better in the future. To do less is to "take up a stone."

This post is not to suggest that people should or should not criticize Coach Dooley. Rather, it is to suggest that the Bible is written to convey spiritual truth and not to be twisted so as to give the impression that this passage in 1 Samuel is conveying a message about UT football.

Let the Bible say what it says. Don't twist it to say what you want to say!
 
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preacherwebb said:
Mods, please read this and give it a chance before you delete it or move it.
It's really not a religious kinda thing, as much as a moral of the story kinda thing. Thanks in advance for your consideration.

Ever so often we hear a Bible story used in sports, to depict the battle between the underdog who seemingly has no chance, and the undefeated champion who's going to crush said underdog. That story is of David and Goliath.

But I would like to give VolNation another story from the life of David; one that I think we can make applications to our current situation.

It's the story of David and the Amalakites, found in I Samuel 30. The long story short goes something like this:
David and his men had been off fighting in battles, and were returning home (Bible students now the details of David's actual affiliation with the Philistines, and being kicked to the curb). Upon returning home, he finds his hometown, Ziklag, burned to ashes, and all their wives and children had been taken prisoner. The Bible says, "the soul of all the people (his men) was grieved" and that they even "spake of stoning him." Can you imagine that? David has lost just as much as any of them, if not more, and they are going to stone him at such a time as this? But they didn't stone David. Instead, they gave him an opportunity to seek out their loved ones and destroy the enemy. By the end of the chapter, the Bible goes on to say that "David recovered all that the Amalekites had carried away" and that " there was nothing lacking to them, neither small nor great, neither sons nor daughters, neither spoil, nor any thing that they had taken to them: David recovered all."

Now, how exactly can we apply this story and it's principles to our current "dilemma?" I'm glad you asked.

David is Dooley. We, the fans, the players, the coaches, all of VolNation, are his men.

We shouldn't think that David (Dooley) has lost nothing in this situation. As a matter of fact, he's probably lost as much or more than anyone involved. Furthermore, it may seem natural to want to pick up stones and stone him; afterall, he's the leader and should be held responible in our minds.

But maybe, just maybe, rather than stone the man, we should give him an opportunity to see if he can salvage the situation, and recover all UT has lost the past few years. He may even recover all.

If he fails, then at least we gave him an opportunity.

I must admit that I've been ready to stone the man like many of you have. But, I've dropped my rock to the ground, and am willing to support him long enough to at least see if he can fix this. In reality, next year ought to be about enough of an opportunity, IMO.

Well, I've said what I felt I needed to, and, like all sermons, some will hear and be helped while others will ignore while still yet others will scoff. I can't convince anybody. I can just tell the truth.

What are you gonna do with your rock?

PS - Coach Dooley, if you read this and like it, invite me to come and give the whole story to the team. I'll be in Newport (about 1 hr away from K-town) the week of Christmas. :)
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Love it! Great Job!
 
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I am not religious, but I appreciate your story from a moral and literary perspective. In my experience, you either give up the fight or you fight harder until you have returned to what you once were and more. What is the expression? You can't judge a man until you have walked in his shoes? None of us know what it is like for Derek Dooley, the coaches, and the team. But as fans, we can support the fight until everything has been reclaimed. Thank you. :)
 
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broadwayvol said:
Permit me to respectfully disagree with what you are trying to make this story from 1 Samuel say. Using your logic, everyone who feels President Obama has not done a good job in his first term should vote for him a second time to see if he might not do better in the future. In fact he should not be criticized at all, just supported.
By the same token, no one should ever be discharged from a job. Instead, we should wait and see if they might not do better in the future. To do less is to "take up a stone."

This post is not to suggest that people should or should not criticize Coach Dooley. Rather, it is to suggest that the Bible is written to convey spiritual truth and not to be twisted so as to give the impression that this passage in 1 Samuel is conveying a message about UT football.

Let the Bible say what it says. Don't twist it to say what you want to say!
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I do not see as "twisting" the reference in any way. Just simply using it as a way to attempt to bring some unity to the fanbase that, for all tense and purposes, is WAY out on the fringe right now.

Nice job, preacherwebb.
 
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5012 said:
Sorry I confess to being lazy ….and there’s no excuse for it... I mean with the bible being a complete work of fiction I could have found lots of appropriate analogies…
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There's one of these jerk offs in every crowd. This isn't a religious debate, leave your atheist views to yourself....or your devil worshiping views, whatever the case may be.
 
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