A radical idea that would increase parity

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The sad thing is I don’t know if Tennessee can be competitive in the current landscape of college football. There are numerous obstacles, most of which are ones they’ve put in their own way. Athletic dept funding runs through the chancellor. You just have academia having way too much influence on what happens in athletics which is a business unto itself.

We also have way too much in fighting amongst boosters, alumni, former coaches, etc. Quite possibly the single most dysfunctional major program in the country for a long time. Imagine someone trying to accuse Bama or Georgia of providing improper benefits, does anyone legit believe that would happen at those programs; is anyone naive enough to believe those programs haven’t and aren’t providing illegal benefits. Kids arrive on campus driving SUVs and sports cars after being penniless in high school.

Then of course the NIL deal, seems like we’re a joke when it comes to the deals being offered in comparison to other programs. And I haven’t even touched on the “investigation” into the program hovering over us.

What Heupel and White have accomplished to this point is remarkable. Even recruiting has impressed me bc I didn’t think we would be this far along this soon after the damage Pruitt did there. Idk if it’s still enough in the long run to overcome the obstacles we place in our own way. And if Heupel can’t get it done we maybe headed down the tubes long term.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
So, what you are saying is they are employees? That means all the sports will have to be paid like employees including female sports.
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Sorry, I’m not following. How would a conference wide draft system make them employees?
 
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"A radical idea that would increase parity"

Who's asking for parity? Who wants socialist (alas, poor me) football? If you can't compete, get better coaches and players and then go kick somebody's arse on Saturdays.
 
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Elhanan said:
Sorry, I’m not following. How would a conference wide draft system make them employees?
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Because without a service contract there is no way of securing performance, they can just pickup and go to another school at a different conference anything time they want. So, on the first week... everyone leaves and goes to another conference. Without the NCAA you will see that its nearly impossible to come up with a system.

I thought this was about amateur athletics? LOL

So... let me get this right... you think some kid that can play anywhere... is going to enter some type of weird draft and play at Vanderbilt? No, he will most probably just bow out and leave Vanderbilt in the dust. Without agreements and contracts i.e. employees there really is no way of doing that.
 
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You will see transfer players sign with teams without any scholarship reduction just an NIL deal.

The transfer portal is just free agency to the highest bidder.
 
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Elhanan said:
I like it but I’d rather conferences recruit and then each team does a bottom up draft.

Example;
John Doe is recruited by the SEC and enters the draft pool in December. Then on signing day each SEC team selects until the pool is empty. Starting with lowest to highest ranked teams.
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So, a kid doesn't even get to decide where he goes to college? Two percent of college FB players get drafted. The other 98% have to make a life for themselves when college is over. They should be able to do that however they choose.
 
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Raebo said:
So with this draft idea even though both my parents went to UT, and I am a big UT fan, I might be force to play for Bama???
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There is no way of securing service, the player doesn't have to play for Alabama.

Its a bunch of people trying to save very corruption organizations i.e. schools.

Why is everyone trying to figure out how to put the schools business model back together?
 
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LexVol71 said:
"A radical idea that would increase parity"

Who's asking for parity? Who wants socialist (alas, poor me) football? If you can't compete, get better coaches and players and then go kick somebody's arse on Saturdays.
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By "get" better layers, do you mean buy better players with NIL? It looks like that is what is going to happen unless there are some stiffer rules governing the process. It looks like it is turning into a situation such as the Yankees buying all the good players in the olden days. Are we getting to the lace where those teams who are in last place get the first "draft" choice? College football, as we know it, is on the doorsteps of complete destruction.
 
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VOLINVONORE said:
By "get" better layers, do you mean buy better players with NIL? It looks like that is what is going to happen unless there are some stiffer rules governing the process.
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The rules basically don't exist now, we're not talking NIL.... we're talking any type of compensation/payment see NCAA vs Alston.

So, everyone is staring at all those rules in the book which are basically not enforceable by the NCAA.
 
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Elhanan said:
Sorry, I’m not following. How would a conference wide draft system make them employees?
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You can’t force a kid to go to a college based on a draft. What if some poor soul had to play for Vandy for four years? That’s a nail to the scrotum instead of a fun college experience. Also academic requirements at different schools would be hell.
 
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DaddyChad said:
You can’t force a kid to go to a college based on a draft. What if some poor soul had to play for Vandy for four years? That’s a nail to the scrotum instead of a fun college experience. Also academic requirements at different schools would be hell.
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Times are changing and no one knows how much this will out. As of today, some players are getting $ 1 million or more through the NIL process. This allows those schools who have players who have negotiated NIL deals from boosters of football teams to buy the best players. Who knows what the future may hold for Vanderbilt and what their fans might be able to do in the future? What is left of the Big 12 may be able to raise millions of oil dollars for kids to play at their schools. Many of the current SEC teams may be sitting on the sidelines watching with current Vandy type talented teams beating the stew out of current SEC teams. College football will never be the same. Greed has established itself as the basis of football the same as it has for our entire society.
 
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DaddyChad said:
You can’t force a kid to go to a college based on a draft. What if some poor soul had to play for Vandy for four years? That’s a nail to the scrotum instead of a fun college experience. Also academic requirements at different schools would be hell.
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Yeah playing for Vandy would suck.
 
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J C Higgins said:
and should be easy to implement.

First....do away with the December signing date and return to the spring signing date.

Second.... after the FBS Championship game the 15 highest ranked teams would be limited in the number of recruits and transfers they could sign the next year based on their ranking. Number One would be limited to 15 fewer than what their limit would otherwise be. Number 2 limited to 14 fewers, number 3 limited to 13 fewer, number 4 limited to 12 fewer, number 5 limited to 11 fewer....etc., etc.

Teams ranked number 16 or less would have no reduction.

Probably the only teams that would be opposed to this would be the teams that have been able to stockpile high ranked players, three deep.
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So….socialism?
 
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EtowahVol said:
It would work but money and greed would not let it happen.
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I could see the “official” statements of those opposed being, “student athletes need a fair and open selection of as many scholarship offers as possible to pursue the academic road of their choice”. Or some crap like that.
 
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J C Higgins said:
"The difference is, today, teams hoard more talent on one team than was ever amassed back then."

This is the issue.

Whatever the method, parity must increase or the population in general will lose interest. As I have said before, the owners of professional sports teams recognize this and it's the reason they instituted measures to increase parity.
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Agreed, but without a draft, or penalizing. The easiest way is to reduce the limit and force the talent to be more spread out.
 
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Just do away with early signing period. Obviously adults can’t act responsibly here either.

I know it sounds like I’m on a rant but coaches leaving teams with CFP chances is just low hanging fruit.
 
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