A majority of thinking here is asinine

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wmcovol said:
OP is right. Coaches can only put u in position to make the play. They can't make it for you. And sometimes the other coaches put their players in that position. No coach is never out schemed or surprised.

Improving every players ability is impossible. Some just have a ceiling. They can't get better. That is where Tennessee is in the secondary. McNeil, Randolph and Mosely are what they are at this point. Some players have improved. But the OL is playing 2 guards at OT. Tackles can play guard. Guards struggle playing tackle. some of you may not be able to understand this.

Games are usually determined between two even teams by someone making a great play or series of plays. OU receiver Shepard made a great catch to tie the game. Seen any Tennessee WRs make a similar play? Calloway of UF made a great play. Tennessee isn't making those kind of plays. Totally opposite. Jmo.
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This all day. To me, despite the coaching malfunctions, the defense did not make plays, and while I love the guy, the quarterback failed to make the plays. Look at the throws Florida's qb made down the stretch under the gun. That 4th down sideline throw was a playmaker play. Dobbs can make those plays with his feet, his arm is not going to beat you. Coaches need to put the tools on the field IMO for him to succeed, i.e. 2 tight end sets or play under center with the power I. But what do I know? Just sayin'....
 
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Not to mention giving hurd the ball just 4 times in the second half. Hurd was running good too. They cant coach or make adjustments fire their asses and get coaches in now that can actually coach while we are still loaded with talent.
 
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Johncarter53 said:
I believe TN has been the better team on the field every week but they are 2-3. I'm not sure where Butch is leading the Vols to? I don't think it's a championship.

Butch is like the kid in algebra class who's failed the first two exams and needs a 100% on the final just to pass the class. It's not going to be easy.
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He put himself here, so he's now officially "being tested"
 
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NO SIR EEE said:
Absolutely ****ing asinine. Did many of you not play football when you were growing up? I seriously want to know the truth. A majority of you are absolute dumb asses. I keep seeing that it's the "coaches fault" that players aren't getting open, missing tackles, and so on.

Most of these kids have played ball since they were very young, if you don't know how to wrap up by now, well maybe you don't need to be here. If you don't know how to juke a defender, or change the route up yourself, maybe you don't need to be here. Sometimes as an offense or defense, you go against the coaches call, you audible out and do it yourself, and if it works, it works, if it doesn't, we'll get em next play.

The coaches coach, they do not strap up and go out on to the field. Like I said, as long as most of these kids have been playing football, if you don't know how to do it by now, we'll see ya later.
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The hardest thing about coaching college football is getting your players to consistently buy in to your program. When the head coach lacks confidence, it trickles down to the players. Butch is not getting the most out of his players anymore. He has no trust in his quarterback, too much trust in his system(or the inability to change it to suit the talent on the field) and that is affecting everything about this team. You say the coaches coach but everything from lack of technique to misuse of talent, and sometimes even blatant negligence of talent, shows me that not much coaching is getting done.
 
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NO SIR EEE said:
Absolutely ****ing asinine. Did many of you not play football when you were growing up? I seriously want to know the truth. A majority of you are absolute dumb asses. I keep seeing that it's the "coaches fault" that players aren't getting open, missing tackles, and so on.

Most of these kids have played ball since they were very young, if you don't know how to wrap up by now, well maybe you don't need to be here. If you don't know how to juke a defender, or change the route up yourself, maybe you don't need to be here. Sometimes as an offense or defense, you go against the coaches call, you audible out and do it yourself, and if it works, it works, if it doesn't, we'll get em next play.

The coaches coach, they do not strap up and go out on to the field. Like I said, as long as most of these kids have been playing football, if you don't know how to do it by now, we'll see ya later.
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Who recruited them? Who is putting them in the game? Who coaches them all year long?

I agree we have some execution issues, but let's get real, I see poor fundamentals in most all of today's youth. Tennessee doesn't have that trademarked.
 
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It's said a good to great coach can take his and beat yours and take yours and beat his. We don't have that currently.
 
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Berry4Heisman14 said:
Not to mention giving hurd the ball just 4 times in the second half. Hurd was running good too. They cant coach or make adjustments fire their asses and get coaches in now that can actually coach while we are still loaded with talent.
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Hell, how many plays the did O even have in the 2nd half? The D was smacked around like beach balls
 
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Berry4Heisman14 said:
Not to mention giving hurd the ball just 4 times in the second half. Hurd was running good too. They cant coach or make adjustments fire their asses and get coaches in now that can actually coach while we are still loaded with talent.
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Four rushes for one yard in the second half. Hurd was running really well.
 
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Carl Pickens said:
Hell, how many plays the did O even have in the 2nd half? The D was smacked around like beach balls
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Thats bc our pathetic.offense with its pathetic scheme and pathetic coaching couldnt stay on the field for anymore than 3 plays. Defense had to be exhausted.
 
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NO SIR EEE said:
Absolutely ****ing asinine. Did many of you not play football when you were growing up? I seriously want to know the truth. A majority of you are absolute dumb asses. I keep seeing that it's the "coaches fault" that players aren't getting open, missing tackles, and so on.

Most of these kids have played ball since they were very young, if you don't know how to wrap up by now, well maybe you don't need to be here. If you don't know how to juke a defender, or change the route up yourself, maybe you don't need to be here. Sometimes as an offense or defense, you go against the coaches call, you audible out and do it yourself, and if it works, it works, if it doesn't, we'll get em next play.

The coaches coach, they do not strap up and go out on to the field. Like I said, as long as most of these kids have been playing football, if you don't know how to do it by now, we'll see ya later.
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So no coach should ever be fired?

Nice!

This post of yours is dumb.

FORMER UT PLAYERS ARE COMPLAINING.

kills your silly whining post.
 
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NO SIR EEE said:
Absolutely ****ing asinine. Did many of you not play football when you were growing up? I seriously want to know the truth. A majority of you are absolute dumb asses. I keep seeing that it's the "coaches fault" that players aren't getting open, missing tackles, and so on.

Most of these kids have played ball since they were very young, if you don't know how to wrap up by now, well maybe you don't need to be here. If you don't know how to juke a defender, or change the route up yourself, maybe you don't need to be here. Sometimes as an offense or defense, you go against the coaches call, you audible out and do it yourself, and if it works, it works, if it doesn't, we'll get em next play.

The coaches coach, they do not strap up and go out on to the field. Like I said, as long as most of these kids have been playing football, if you don't know how to do it by now, we'll see ya later.
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You are correct.....your thinking is way out in left field!!!
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
So list the 4 and 5* that Missouri, Utah, Boise St, Northwestern, Toledo and Memphis have.
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And you know what I thought you were better than this. What are you trying to say? Stars don't matter? When you have a great coach they don't matter as much, see Whittingham, Dantonio, even Pinkel. Yes Fuente is also but he says a people who also don't have stars. Stars matter and when you have a great coach they don't matter as much.
 
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Berry4Heisman14 said:
Thats bc our pathetic.offense with its pathetic scheme and pathetic coaching couldnt stay on the field for anymore than 3 plays. Defense had to be exhausted.
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It goes both ways man. The D had to make a stop to get off the field. TN dominated TOP in the first half
 
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Nationdom said:
And you know what I thought you were better than this. What are you trying to say? Stars don't matter? When you have a great coach they don't matter as much, see Whittingham, Dantonio, even Pinkel. Yes Fuente is also but he says a people who also don't have stars. Stars matter and when you have a great coach they don't matter as much.
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What I am saying is, you dont have to have all 4 and 5* players to be successful and win. Those teams I listed are not stacked like FSU, Bama and OSU. Yet they are ranked in the top 25 and are winning. Why you cannot see this is mind boggling.
 
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NO SIR EEE said:
Absolutely ****ing asinine. Did many of you not play football when you were growing up? I seriously want to know the truth. A majority of you are absolute dumb asses. I keep seeing that it's the "coaches fault" that players aren't getting open, missing tackles, and so on.

Most of these kids have played ball since they were very young, if you don't know how to wrap up by now, well maybe you don't need to be here. If you don't know how to juke a defender, or change the route up yourself, maybe you don't need to be here. Sometimes as an offense or defense, you go against the coaches call, you audible out and do it yourself, and if it works, it works, if it doesn't, we'll get em next play.

The coaches coach, they do not strap up and go out on to the field. Like I said, as long as most of these kids have been playing football, if you don't know how to do it by now, we'll see ya later.
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The coaches are young and need more depth and don't have to go on the field with it strapped on. (Deep Blue Font).
 
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NO SIR EEE said:
Absolutely ****ing asinine. Did many of you not play football when you were growing up? I seriously want to know the truth. A majority of you are absolute dumb asses. I keep seeing that it's the "coaches fault" that players aren't getting open, missing tackles, and so on.

Most of these kids have played ball since they were very young, if you don't know how to wrap up by now, well maybe you don't need to be here. If you don't know how to juke a defender, or change the route up yourself, maybe you don't need to be here. Sometimes as an offense or defense, you go against the coaches call, you audible out and do it yourself, and if it works, it works, if it doesn't, we'll get em next play.

The coaches coach, they do not strap up and go out on to the field. Like I said, as long as most of these kids have been playing football, if you don't know how to do it by now, we'll see ya later.
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After reading your post, and then noting some of the responses, I must say the evidence presented to me makes your topic seem spot on.
 
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NO SIR EEE said:
Absolutely ****ing asinine. Did many of you not play football when you were growing up? I seriously want to know the truth. A majority of you are absolute dumb asses. I keep seeing that it's the "coaches fault" that players aren't getting open, missing tackles, and so on.

Most of these kids have played ball since they were very young, if you don't know how to wrap up by now, well maybe you don't need to be here. If you don't know how to juke a defender, or change the route up yourself, maybe you don't need to be here. Sometimes as an offense or defense, you go against the coaches call, you audible out and do it yourself, and if it works, it works, if it doesn't, we'll get em next play.

The coaches coach, they do not strap up and go out on to the field. Like I said, as long as most of these kids have been playing football, if you don't know how to do it by now, we'll see ya later.
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If you were correct, McElwain and Harbough wouldn't be having success with really not so good talent. "The coaches coach"--not the case with our coaches. The players have regressed, not progressed. That is coaching. And yes, I have played football, for one good coach and a few not so good ones. The coach makes one hell of a difference. In our case, I fear that our coach's bad in-game decisions and lack of ability to make adjustments during the game are causing him to lose the confidence of his players. If that happens, it will be a long season or two before the stupid AD who gave him a contract extension is forced to make a move. There will be a time when, due to loss of season ticket and donation revenue, it will be cost-effective to get a coach who can coach.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
What I am saying is, you dont have to have all 4 and 5* players to be successful and win. Those teams I listed are not stacked like FSU, Bama and OSU. Yet they are ranked in the top 25 and are winning. Why you cannot see this is mind boggling.
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I just said that.
 
#99
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99gator said:
So, Tennessee would be no better if Nick Saban was the coach?

If the coach doesn't effect performance, couldn't you just hire anyone to get the job done?
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Don't you have a gator board to go to!

Guys I don't know what the answer is but I am just hurting so bad right now. This is the first time I have been on here in two weeks. Just couldn't bear to hear all the negativity as it does not help and the fact remains we have lost three games by a total of 12 points. Its not like we are getting blown out? It seems to me the best thing we as fans can do is to continue to back our team!

It is possible that we beat Georgia this week and that changes every ones outlook. Ga definitely looked beatable this week and we always play them good. Odds are in our favor that sooner or later things will bounce our way.

One thing I am sure of is once the team and the fan base begins turning on one another nothing good will occur from that scenario. As I said earlier I certainly don't have the answers but if every one can stay somewhat positive and together, we can still salvage a good season.
 
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#100
The defense was tackling better earlier this season than last night. I don't know if it is the fatigue that goes with playing in the SEC or just the transition to college ball from high school, but something is affecting them. They tackled horribly last night and the turf was mentioned as a reason by the announcers but Arkansas didn't let it bother them much. I still think we are headed in the right direction but coaching them up is not keeping up with our talent elevation at this point.

GO VOLS!!!
 
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