A lot of coaches do not want to coach for Dooley

#101
#101
can we please hire a DC. My production at work has slowed to a stop...all i can do is check Twitter and forums for news....

just read that possible canidate is....

Uncle Rico from Napolean Dynomite
 
#102
#102
NWO4LIFE said:
can we please hire a DC. My production at work has slowed to a stop...all i can do is check Twitter and forums for news....

just read that possible canidate is....

Uncle Rico from Napolean Dynomite
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Gonna instill his steak throwing drill, no doubt.
 
#103
#103
Five coaches leaving.
Former players being pissed at the HC.
Second half meltdowns by this team.
Losing to teams with less talent than us.
Regression in special teams/running game.

The above is not speculation; it is fact.
 
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#104
DaddyChad said:
Five coaches leaving.
Former players being pissed at the HC.
Second half meltdowns by this team.
Losing to teams with less talent than us.
Regression in special teams/running game.

The above is not speculation; it is fact.
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Only know one team we loss to with less talent, UK. Who is the other?
 
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Everyone forgets that most coachs had nothing but good things to say about Dooley before he was hired. He came recommended by some.

Now that we are losing.... Its all his fault and we should sit around and talk about how no one likes him. Hahahaha

You know when you had to play the rumor game is school to see how much things/stories can change once peoples opinions become involved. This board is full of them and everyone is now talk about stories as if they are dead on fact.

Nice.
 
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daj2576 said:
I look at it like this: ask yourself if UT had not lost to KY would the angst be so high? The answer is no, even if we had gone to and lost a bowl game. So logically that means that most of the anger/unrest is due to performance in that one game. That isn't fair and is very short sighted. I cannot point to any one thing that says that things WILL be okay, but I can certainly agree with Dooley's statement that the program is much better off now than 22 months ago. He will get his own shot to keep his job, there is nothing that us fans complaining will do to change that.
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You're right about the UK game escalating the angst, but it was the last straw, not the sole reason. The frustration had been building all season, and fans were looking for a compelling reason to either get behind Dooley or want him gone. The increasingly ugly performances more than the losses have cost Dooley fan support. IDK if Dooley will make it here or if he will make the program better or worse before he goes, but his 22-month comment is straight from the Kiffin playbook.

There is something fans can do-- stop donating, stop buying season tickets and stop going to the games. I'm not advocating this at all; I'm just saying, if that continues happening to an increasing degree, the fans will be heard-- loudly.
 
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LA Vol said:
You're right about the UK game escalating the angst, but it was the last straw, not the sole reason. The frustration had been building all season, and fans were looking for a compelling reason to either get behind Dooley or want him gone. The increasingly ugly performances more than the losses have cost Dooley fan support. IDK if Dooley will make it here or if he will make the program better or worse before he goes, but his 22-month comment is straight from the Kiffin playbook.

There is something fans can do-- stop donating, stop buying season tickets and stop going to the games. I'm not advocating this at all; I'm just saying, if that continues happening to an increasing degree, the fans will be heard-- loudly.
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As I said consider if UT had beaten KY, there would be much less angst. That was certainly the straw but certainly there wouldn't be the same level of short sightedness that is going on here. The Kiffen playbook? I hate the guy for leaving us, but I am beginning to believe he can coach, that wouldn't be all that bad. And, is that statement not true? Has talent not been upgraded across the board? Are we still short a full roster? Is the new training facility not finished, or close to it? I think objectively we can say that we are better than we were 22 months ago. I am not advocating that Dooley IS the answer. Actually I equate him more to Mike Shula. I think he was a stop gap. I do question why we didn't just promote an interim HC for the 2010 season and really spend time looking and courting a bigger name coach, but hindsight is 20/20. Dooley will either get us to 2013 with a full talented roster and get replaced after another mediocre season, or "heaven forbid" he actually exceeds expectations next year and earns another year as coach. Its a win/win. These past few years are more "throw away" than people give them credit for. Most of us saw it coming, the discontented expected way too much too soon. Its like a runner getting hit by a car, you have to heal first, then you can try to run the Boston Marathon. We are almost out of the hospital...I expect good things.
 
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#108
It seems he has changed a lot of things while he has been here. Do the coaches not like the odd changes, accompanied by the possible sinking ship? Why is the coaching turn around so bad this year compared to other years? Just a big coincidence? Thoughts everyone?
 
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1world1love said:
Actually, coaches don't want to come into a situation where fans are vitriol toward the existing coaches, have no real football sense, and unrealistic expectations.

Despite the fact that Dooley took over a team with 65 scholarship players, almost none of whom were SEC quality, with no real recruiting base, and no senior leadership, so called fans refer to his time here as a failure and practically have run off every coach.

People who know nearly nothing about football have created such a toxic atmosphere around the program, what big-name coach would possibly consider coming here? There is no upside at all. Well respected coaches like HH are being run off, yet other high-profile schools are trying to bring him in.

If you want to know why no quality coaches want to be here, look in the mirror.
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I have to respectfully disagree with a lot of what you said in this post. I think you are way off base on the majority of our fan base not knowing football and being wrong to consider Dooley a failure. Had Dooley been 7-6 the past two seasons with at least one quality win and no bad losses the pressure would not be what it is. However he is 11-14 with no quality wins and one very, very bad loss to Kentucky. All fans are unrealistic to an extent and the fans attitudes do not prevent good coaches from taking jobs. Take Saban for example...the Alabama fan base is the most unrealistic in the nation and you can't tell me their situation pre-Saban wasn't as dire as ours today. The bottom line is you have to produce in order to garner the fans' support. This is the same fan base that ushered the program through great success in the 90's. Blaming the fan base is dead wrong. If you don't have the passion that posters on VN have for their program, then you don't really have fans as the word fanatic implies. While I agree with you that we are between a rock and a hard place with young players and limited recruiting areas, etc, good coaches don't shy away from challenges because a school's fan base is overzealous. We are not a second rate program because our fans are idiots my friend, we are a high level program because our fans fill a 105,000 seat stadium and post zillions of messages on message boards and care very deeply about who the coach is hiring as DC. While I would guess you are a pretty smart fan with a good take on most issues, You are going down the wrong road blaming the fanbase for Dooley not being able to hire great coaches. I'm all for giving Dooley a shot to turn this thing around, but it has to start now by hiring men who will challenge our players to be men. If there are coaches who don't want to come here because the fans make this a tough place to coach, then I don't want them coaching the VOLS against the SEC. "Look in the mirror"...really? It's not my job to hire the DC but you can rest assured that if it was I'd hire somebody that knows something about competing and character. I think everyone on these boards should expect no less and their impatience is the reason we will be successful again. GBO!
 
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Defaultuser said:
Five coaches leaving and none of them as the result of being fired, says a lot more about the pulse of the program than a message board.
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You are right. I believe it says that guys who came here to do a job believe that irrational fans and the UT sports media will not let them finish it. So rather than having that black mark on their resume, they chose to move onto programs where fans are more loyal and the media cuts them a little slack. Prove me wrong.

Yes them leaving says "something" but the assumption that they left only because Dooley was hard to work for is at once very convenient for those who despise Dooley and blind by those who contribute to the unreasonable pressures this staff has endured.
 
#123
#123
Sunseri was a joke...just looking for more Bama money. Green is a real coach with actual DC experience. Good Hire. MFL
 
#124
#124
sjt18 said:
You are right. I believe it says that guys who came here to do a job believe that irrational fans and the UT sports media will not let them finish it. So rather than having that black mark on their resume, they chose to move onto programs where fans are more loyal and the media cuts them a little slack. Prove me wrong.

Yes them leaving says "something" but the assumption that they left only because Dooley was hard to work for is at once very convenient for those who despise Dooley and blind by those who contribute to the unreasonable pressures this staff has endured.
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Hypocrical post 18....It can't be DD's fault but it its the fan's and media's? So I will ask you the same ? you have put to others. Can you back this up?
 
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1world1love said:
Actually, coaches don't want to come into a situation where fans are vitriol toward the existing coaches, have no real football sense, and unrealistic expectations.

Despite the fact that Dooley took over a team with 65 scholarship players, almost none of whom were SEC quality, with no real recruiting base, and no senior leadership, so called fans refer to his time here as a failure and practically have run off every coach.

People who know nearly nothing about football have created such a toxic atmosphere around the program, what big-name coach would possibly consider coming here? There is no upside at all. Well respected coaches like HH are being run off, yet other high-profile schools are trying to bring him in.

If you want to know why no quality coaches want to be here, look in the mirror.
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My faith in Vol humanity has been at least temporarily restored....thank you 1world
 
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