A little STAR-gazing.....

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mreed90 said:
And two of those 3 stars are O-linemen are we all know linemen are harder to evaluate. Creamer is probably too big for his position and will end up playing D-end so all the 3 stars are high rated or possibly under rated.
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And one of em is the son of Orlando Brown. That's big time.
 
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Ericvol2096 said:
The better metric would be to average their Rivals ranking and see what it comes up with.

Here are some quick figures I did only counting scholarship players so not counting Dews this year, Swofford last yr, ect.

2014- 5.77 avg
2013 - 5.66 avg
2012 - 5.70 avg
2011 - 5.71 avg
2010 - 5.69 avg
2009 - 5.8 avg
2008 - 5.64 avg
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I can buy that but wish you were able to go deeper into the Fulmer classes.

This class is on pace to be our best on paper since 2007 AT LEAST.
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And... this is what I hope we're seeing happen before our eyes... I would like to see the day when UT looks BETTER on championship Saturday than NSD.
 
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Per SJT request

2007 - 5.78 Avg
2006 - 5.59 Avg
2005 - 5.78 Avg

Really no point to go past this as they didn't assign a point value to Juco's past this.

But once again you can see this class is on pace with our two best on paper the last 10 years...this is before multiple rerankings and this is Butch hand picking his guys that are high character players.

This class isn't just on pace to be great, it is on pace to be a program changer.
 
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sjt18 said:
I think you guys are missing the most important thing I said. To me, it seems likely that Jones is getting who he wants and the kind of player he wants instead of picking over the scraps.

IMHO, Dooley tended to go for "character" players then sprinkled in some more risky guys. But there is no question in my mind that he was trying to figure out who the best players were of those left after others got their picks.

Toward the end, Fulmer wasn't getting his choice any more. Spurrier and Clemson had pushed him out of SC. UNC was better at keeping him out of NC. Richt had cut him off in GA. All of the FL schools were recruiting well with UCF and USF stepping up too. LSU had pretty much cut him off in LA. He was left picking over the leftovers way too often. Talented for sure but higher risks than the instate schools wanted to assume.

Honestly Kiffin did a pretty good job of getting first cut players before leaving in '10. His EE's have been pretty good players.

Jones is taking kids from other states that the instate schools want... a lot. He's getting his pick in TN at a time when TN HSFB seems to be on the rise.

Not only could Jones be "the guy".... the stars may be aligning for him too.
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The bold part is understated by many. When the net has to widen significantly it means you are losing your edge regionally. SEC territory + Ohio is and has always has been a hotbed for football. When you have to stretch out all over the country to stock a roster, you are missing on a lot of great talent at your back door. That doesn't mean you don't cherry pick great talent elsewhere, however, the roster should be fully loaded with talent that knows what SEC football is all about and lives it every day in the region.
 
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I trust in Butch's evaluations...stars are nice, but CBJ will find some that are way underrated too
 
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Here's the average star ranking of each recruit. I'll add to the OP as well.

4.25 : Jalen Hurd
4: Bates, Kelly, McDowell, Payne, Lauderdale, Weatherd
3.75: Helm, Bryant
3.5: Wharton
3.25: Paulk, Powell, Henderson, Wolf
3: Brown, Thomas, Creamer, Jackson
2.75: Medley
2.25: Dews
 
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