A. I. - artificial intelligence

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For me, it depends on what the AI is used for. If it’s being used to actually control the capsule, I would absolutely refuse to swallow it. If the AI is only being used to analyze the video footage from the capsule, I would be much more open.

I know those can get stuck in your intestinal tract, so that’s another concern.
 
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I work at an eICU now and watch 2 ICU’s a night. 7 screens and all that fun. I depend on tech now and we are entering into the era of 2 way cameras in ICU’s. I have some obvious privacy concerns which I have expressed to the tech people and management.
My gut is telling me we are entering this to teach AI how RNs interact with pts. They have done it with several other service sectors and are advancing in healthcare.
FYI.
 
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Matt2496 said:
For me, it depends on what the AI is used for. If it’s being used to actually control the capsule, I would absolutely refuse to swallow it. If the AI is only being used to analyze the video footage from the capsule, I would be much more open.

I know those can get stuck in your intestinal tract, so that’s another concern.
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Those GI pills have been around for 15 years. They started to decline in use because the information was very incomplete. They prefer an EGD scope and colonoscopy. Problem is that kind of eliminates seeing most of the small intestine.
If rather a pill than a scope, I’m sure plenty would agree with me. 🤔
 
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NurseGoodVol said:
Good read. I’m still curious how a sinus surgery, which I’ve had, managed to blow a carotid artery 4 inches away?
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the way I read it is the actual surgeon is using a robot and relying on the AI to actually tell them where the robot is(?). and the AI is wrong/lying about the robots location (?).

not really sure, but it sounds like the surgeon doesn't actually have eyes on the subject which seems janky.
 
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PEPPERJAX said:
Truth in scripture. Unsure if it applies to AI but it is something to ponder about. There are certain fictional stories from Hollywood movies that could pose a problem if they became reality.
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So far my guess is that it’s fiat currency and the living beast is digital currency.

We already pay for purified water to drink. I keep seeing that there are plans to sell us the air that we breathe. Speaking of Hollywood movies, there is a scene in Black Widow in which Rachel Weis’s scientist character uses a chip to force a pig to stop breathing. I’m sure if it shows up in a movie, there’s more than one person with that idea.
 
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LouderVol said:
just wait till the government starts using it against its own citizens.

need to get rid of a vocal critic? AI some crime up.
need to prove someone violated the next government curfew? AIs got 15 videos showing it.
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Already there. You can tell ChatGPT to write you a country songs about cats and gators and it'll spit one right out.
 
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GVF said:
Already there. You can tell ChatGPT to write you a country songs about cats and gators and it'll spit one right out.
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I've been using ChatGPT almost daily and fascinated with how helpful it is.

I've used it numerous times at work to interpret SQL queries or java code a previous employee wrote. Worked great.
 
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theFallGuy said:
I'm sure that is very helpful for you
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When My sister was still living she was really into that stuff and my stepdad helped her by watching VHS vids on how to spot fake beanies when they went to flea markets years ago. Now there are AI powered tools that can assist in identifying anything fake.
 
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PEPPERJAX said:
When My sister was still living she was really into that stuff and my stepdad helped her by watching VHS vids on how to spot fake beanies when they went to flea markets years ago. Now there are AI powered tools that can assist in identifying anything fake.
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that's pretty awesome that your Dad did that and also funny.
 
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The fascinating part to me is the concept that we’ve worked all our lives to be able to have what we want and within a period of years AI will greatly reduce the entire concept of scarcity - the bedrock of economics as we know it.
 
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GAVol said:
The fascinating part to me is the concept that we’ve worked all our lives to be able to have what we want and within a period of years AI will greatly reduce the entire concept of scarcity - the bedrock of economics as we know it.
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You assume AI, those who control it, will do something to remove scarcity.

I would bet on worse before I would ever consider it getting better due to AI
 
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LouderVol said:
the way I read it is the actual surgeon is using a robot and relying on the AI to actually tell them where the robot is(?). and the AI is wrong/lying about the robots location (?).

not really sure, but it sounds like the surgeon doesn't actually have eyes on the subject which seems janky.
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They don’t have eyes on them as they are in another suite. One line of code or something interpreted incorrectly and this happens. I’m not in a hurry to rush out and try this.
 
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NurseGoodVol said:
They don’t have eyes on them as they are in another suite. One line of code or something interpreted incorrectly and this happens. I’m not in a hurry to rush out and try this.
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I get the steady hand of a robot guided by a surgeon not directly over the patient working manual controls like the claw game. but it is a little concerning for me that they aren't even in the same room, or that there isn't some "objective" trained human third party observer in the room to watch out.

I get completely remote situations thats implausible and this opens up care options, but I would still want the surgeon to be physically present.
 
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LouderVol said:
I get the steady hand of a robot guided by a surgeon not directly over the patient working manual controls like the claw game. but it is a little concerning for me that they aren't even in the same room, or that there isn't some "objective" trained human third party observer in the room to watch out.

I get completely remote situations thats implausible and this opens up care options, but I would still want the surgeon to be physically present.
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My question is how does this technology advance best practice and what’s best for the patient? It definitely is a plus for surgeons not being exposed to blood or infected materials.
I interviewed for a cath lab where they were using the Divinci robot to do heart catheterizations. They had one circulating RN in the room with the pt to administer meds and one RN with the doctor in the next room who would initially help prep the pt.
My problem with that is if something goes wrong and the robot is withdrawn you are working with 2 less RNs which would be ideal staffing during that procedure. I don’t think there pros outweigh the cons.
 
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NurseGoodVol said:
My question is how does this technology advance best practice and what’s best for the patient? It definitely is a plus for surgeons not being exposed to blood or infected materials.
I interviewed for a cath lab where they were using the Divinci robot to do heart catheterizations. They had one circulating RN in the room with the pt to administer meds and one RN with the doctor in the next room who would initially help prep the pt.
My problem with that is if something goes wrong and the robot is withdrawn you are working with 2 less RNs which would be ideal staffing during that procedure. I don’t think there pros outweigh the cons.
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I know some of the benefit is supposed to be smaller incisions and quicker recovery time, but agree there seems to be a higher risk factor.
 
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