A fans perspective at the IU-UK game

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The way UK fans were treated in Indiana is starting to make news. Heres an example.

Allow me to preface by saying I visited Bloomington countless times as a UK student and always had a tremendous time. Though the campus and its student body were vastly different from my alma mater, I found IU to be a beautiful place and a lot of fun for a college man. Naturally, when I bought 6 tickets from the IU ticket office back in October for my Dad, brothers, a friend, and me, I was pumped to go back.

We arrived in town around 12:30 pm Saturday and parked near Kilroy’s, a pretty standard college bar. Walking past the first storefront a college kid opened the door to offer us a warm reception.

“You’re going to get your ass kicked wearing that blue.”

We laughed it off and kept walking to Nick’s, the “alumni” bar and pizza joint that is loaded with Indiana regalia and lore. A really cool place that reminds you a bit of Two Keys. In that 3 minute walk no fewer than 3 separate groups shouted from their cars and/or across the street, “F*** Kentucky!” It became obvious to us at that point the phrase would be the tagline for the day, and it was.

After throwing down a couple large pizzas downstairs (excellent, friendly service), we made our way to the 2nd floor which is a large open room with a bar in the center. We filed in one-by-one and were met with a chorus of boos from the 99.5% IU crowd, boos that we took in stride. It was actually really funny and almost felt like a friendly welcome, strange as that may sound. We had no idea that would be the only moment of light-hearted banter from the Hoosier fanbase we would get all day. The day turned very dark shortly after, and I will never forget the almost surreal experience.

As we enjoyed cheap domestic drafts, IU fan, after IU student, after IU alum berated us with “Kentucky f*ggots,” “Leave hillbillies,” “F*** Kentucky,” and “You are not welcome here.” Man and woman, boy and girl. If we were keeping statistics it would not be hyperbole to state we heard something along these lines once every 10 minutes, and we estimated that 1 in 7 Hoosiers we came across the entire day verbally assaulted us. It was the most uncomfortable I have ever been in an American town. Frankly, it didn’t even feel American. We couldn’t fathom the abuse we were taking nor where it was stemming from. It was that vitriolic.

Here is what was perhaps most bothersome. I have visited a lot of college towns following the Cats: Tuscaloosa, Athens, Columbia, Oxford, Nashville, Knoxville, to name a few. Though each of those trips included experiences with confrontational folks, it was always isolated and invariably there were reasonable, friendly “hosts” who would buy you a beer, tell you to forget about it and to have a good time. And perhaps it’s just an SEC thing, but most folks will even thank you for making the trip.

The difference this weekend was that the entire fanbase were of the confrontational variety. There were no friendly faces, nobody with any concern or regard for the small number of Kentucky fans that were flat under siege in their proud town. Not one time did an IU fan step up and check their counterparts (save for a very close IU friend who did so repeatedly). Not one time did any ask if we were enjoying ourselves, or if we were being treated okay, or offer to buy a beer. The 6 of us were basically the “untouchables.” Subhuman Kentuckians that somehow found shoes for the weekend. It was obvious; to them we weren’t just the opposition, we were inferior people.

There are too many incidents to even begin to write them out. It was constant. Most all are best left alone at this point, frankly. Unprovoked near fights. Middle fingers point blank to our faces. Looks of disgust. People walking up and mocking us with ridiculously exaggerated southern accents. It goes on and on.

I would only say this to Kentucky fans. If someone thinks so highly of Kentucky and Rupp Arena to spend money to follow their team to Lexington, be hospitable and respectful. Even if in Volunteer Orange or Cardinal Red, they are fellow college basketball fans, and that shared passion is literally enough to start a friendly discussion over a beer. I thought we would find that in Bloomington given their program’s rich history, alas what we found were thousands of hate filled, cold, nasty people that ruined what should have been a grand day for college basketball. Even still, next December when Indiana comes to town, treat them with dignity and perhaps they’ll “get” what college basketball should be about.

Shockingly, that’s my little brother’s hope for what good can come out of the profound misery that was our day. After the game as we made our way through a packed Kilroy’s, a chant of “*******! *******! *******!” came roaring down on us, along with dozens of fingers pointing downward in our direction. It lasted for a good 2 minutes, long enough for a Hoosier to pour his beer out on my brother’s head and for another to throw something cumbersome enough to leave a bump and bruise on his forehead. Even still, the Kentucky “hillbilly” whom was ironically told all day has “no class,” stated this morning that he wants Indiana folks to visit Lexington next year for the game. He has no doubt that they would be treated properly, have fun, and perhaps they’d return the favor next time Kentucky travels to Bloomington.

That will be for one of you other hillbillies to discover, however. This one won’t be going back. Just don’t forget your shoes.
 
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A guy came at my friend and I with a broken beer bottle (called something else if you've seen Clerks II) in Athens, Ga back when we hung half a hundred on them in 2006. We did nothing to provoke it other than wear insane amounts of orange.

Ah, good times. Now people just feel sorry for us....damn.
 
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Sorry you had a crappy time. On that note, the most fearful I have ever been regarding a sporting event was when I was in Lexington the night of UK's loss to West Virgina in the Elite Eight. It became Thunderdome in that city.
 
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Apologies to anyone on this board, but my general experience with Hoosier fans is that many of them can be pricks to begin with. Want to play the "redneck hillbilly card when they grow more corn than damn near anyone. Couple that with the fact that their once storied program has been reduced to an after thought, along with UK winning 14 of the last 16 (check that stat) in the rivalry, this was easy to see coming. Some on this board couldn't understand that IU was a rivalry of UK, this should help stoke the fire back up.

I pray to God above that we meet these bastages again in the tournament.

P.S For the moment, yes you are off my ignore list.
 
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Guys, I apologize. I didnt write this, I copied it from a UK fan site. I like going to away games, but I wont venture to IU, WVU or Miss State. The hatred and disgust that was displayed at this game keeps pouring in.


The other one I read was about an IU fan spitting on a elderly mans back who didnt even know he had a loogie on him.

I've seen it first hand before, things like this have happened to me at away games. I just dont understand it. I mean, why do the opposing fans get so angry after they beat you? YOU WON...shouldnt you be thrilled and celebrating? A few kids pissed off that they lost, I could understand. But winning and acting like apes seems insane.
 
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FTR, at the UK game in TBA last year, there was some poor UK kid that was sitting in the student section getting popcorn thrown at him and being called names. I was pissed at the kids doing it, simply because I knew the UK asshat was going to get the last laugh.
 
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Popcorn, you say? I got hit with rolled-up newspapers and cardboard 3s. And, the gutless group only did it while their team was playing well.
 
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I'm not directing this at you Hardwood Fanatic, it's more for Judge Smails and the rest of the Rupps Rafters crowd.

I have never seen a fanbase refuse to accept a loss like a large portion of the Kentucky fan base. There's so much deflection it's mind boggling.

First, there's the refs suck and gave the game away.
Then they move on to Indiana played the game of the century while Kentucky played the worst they've played in 100 years. You see the term "perfect storm" mentioned a lot.
Next it's how storming the court is lame and they need to "act like they've been there before."
Lastly, when that's run it's course they move on to the fans are the worst in the world and we were fearful for our lives and should cancel the series.

It just seems like they do everything in their power to deflect away from what happened on the court.

I'm not saying that some didn't get treated poorly, that happens everywhere. I'm guessing a lot of it is embellished though as you rarely if ever see these complaints when a team wins.

I just don't think I've ever seen a "Congrats, they played well and deserved to win. Let's get the next one."
 
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FTR, at the UK game in TBA last year, there was some poor UK kid that was sitting in the student section getting popcorn thrown at him and being called names. I was pissed at the kids doing it, simply because I knew the UK asshat was going to get the last laugh.

It stinks when fans act crazy toward opposing teams and fans. I know this happened in the 70s, but UK isn't exempt from extreme fan behavior...ie: throwing oranges, coins, ice, and lit cigarettes.

Ernie and Bernie vs. Kentucky GoVolsXtra
 
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Yankees...

sigh.


I can promise you that if you played at Michigan State, the hospitality would be unimaginable good. There are jerks in every fanbase, but the treatment described in the OP would never happen at Michigan State.

Yankees, yes. Issues, yes. But that is one school that knows how to treat an opponent. I guess after being crapped on for so many years by others, a good fan base remembers where it came from.

Sorry the IU hicks couldnt figure this out.
 
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I'm not directing this at you Hardwood Fanatic, it's more for Judge Smails and the rest of the Rupps Rafters crowd.

I have never seen a fanbase refuse to accept a loss like a large portion of the Kentucky fan base. There's so much deflection it's mind boggling.

First, there's the refs suck and gave the game away.
Then they move on to Indiana played the game of the century while Kentucky played the worst they've played in 100 years. You see the term "perfect storm" mentioned a lot.
Next it's how storming the court is lame and they need to "act like they've been there before."
Lastly, when that's run it's course they move on to the fans are the worst in the world and we were fearful for our lives and should cancel the series.

It just seems like they do everything in their power to deflect away from what happened on the court.

I'm not saying that some didn't get treated poorly, that happens everywhere. I'm guessing a lot of it is embellished though as you rarely if ever see these complaints when a team wins.

I just don't think I've ever seen a "Congrats, they played well and deserved to win. Let's get the next one."

I swear you are talking about Bammers
 
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sigh.


I can promise you that if you played at Michigan State, the hospitality would be unimaginable good. There are jerks in every fanbase, but the treatment described in the OP would never happen at Michigan State.

Yankees, yes. Issues, yes. But that is one school that knows how to treat an opponent. I guess after being crapped on for so many years by others, a good fan base remembers where it came from.

Sorry the IU hicks couldnt figure this out.



What many do not realize after a discussion we had a week or so ago about Kentucky rivals, is that Indiana has always been a huge traditional rival. It flamed out and lost it's lust over the last decade (at least for IU fans) with UK dominating the rivalry for the last 12 years or so. But the roots are there, the fan bases despise one another.

I hate saying this in a way because I don't want to offend anyone from Indiana, especially the few friends I have from that state, but I have visited fanbases and programs all over the US, North and South, and I have never met a more obnoxious bunch of ass-holes. Period.
 
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Sorry you had a crappy time. On that note, the most fearful I have ever been regarding a sporting event was when I was in Lexington the night of UK's loss to West Virgina in the Elite Eight. It became Thunderdome in that city.

I live close to campus...It was scary.
 
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Sorry you had a crappy time. On that note, the most fearful I have ever been regarding a sporting event was when I was in Lexington the night of UK's loss to West Virgina in the Elite Eight. It became Thunderdome in that city.

Go to a game in Memphis. Your list will change.
 
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What many do not realize after a discussion we had a week or so ago about Kentucky rivals, is that Indiana has always been a huge traditional rival. It flamed out and lost it's lust over the last decade (at least for IU fans) with UK dominating the rivalry for the last 12 years or so. But the roots are there, the fan bases despise one another.

I hate saying this in a way because I don't want to offend anyone from Indiana, especially the few friends I have from that state, but I have visited fanbases and programs all over the US, North and South, and I have never met a more obnoxious bunch of ass-holes. Period.

Yeah, I go back a fairly long ways, I know the roots you are talking about. But you would think that somewhere in all of the rivalry there would be some common sense.

You have to remember that Bobby Knight is still a folk hero in Bloomington. That says a lot right there. I am a big fan of SOME of the things that Bobby Knight has dont for the sport of basketball, but the way he is revered in Bloomington is just short of crazy.

Im hoping that we are going to see a UK -v- MSU series coming up soon. It has been talked about in the basketball offices, but Im not sure how far the conversations went.
 
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A bunch of savages up in Indiana

Kentucky fan was “scared to death” at end of UK-Indiana game, suffered ankle injury | vaughtsviews

Dills, a 2007 Kentucky graduate with an animal science/pre-vet major, had UK painted on her face and wore a UK shirt. She almost says she can be a bit “mouthy” at games in support of the Wildcats.

“You couldn’t hear yourself think, much less scream for UK,” she said. “There was a girl two rows behind me that said, ‘Sit your blonde — down.’ I turned around and probably said some not so nice things myself back. But it was a good time, or at least it was until the end.

“All those fans came out of their seats and rushed the floor like idiots. The next thing I knew, I was knocked down five or six steps. I think the guy who actually knocked me down is the one who did at least pick me up. After I got hurt, I was scared to death.”

She had a swollen ankle she could barely walk on and a doctor confirmed Monday that she not only had a sprained ankle, but also some torn tendons. The injury has forced her to cancel a Playboy photo shoot this Saturday in Indiana.

“I just can’t do the shoot with my ankle like it is,” Dills, who also has a psychology degree from Northern Kentucky University, said. “But that’s okay because I do a lot of them.”

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Sounds like Kentucky fans are getting a dose of what their basketball fans have done for years.
 
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Sounds like Kentucky fans are getting a dose of what their basketball fans have done for years.

Everyone does it. I was at the UT - UK game this year, UT fans talked crap the whole game and were still cussing us out as we left.

It goes all ways.
 
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Everyone does it. I was at the UT - UK game this year, UT fans talked crap the whole game and were still cussing us out as we left.

It goes all ways.

If you are talking about the football game, UT fans certainly have earned the right to to talk crap to UK.

But every UK fan thinks their crap don't stink when it comes to bball.
 
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If you are talking about the football game, UT fans certainly have earned the right to to talk crap to UK.

But every UK fan thinks their crap don't stink when it comes to bball.

I dont think anyone deserves to be talked badly of. Sure, it may be true, but doesnt need to be done.

Anyway, thanks.
 
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