9 SEC games, starting in 2026

They will split the conference in two divisions

if 20:

East:
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
Kentucky
Florida
Georgia
South Carolina
North Carolina
NC State
Virginia
Virginia Tech

West:
Texas
Texas A&M
Oklahoma
Missouri
Arkansas
LSU
Ole Miss
Mississippi St
Alabama
Auburn


if 24:

East:
Tennessee
Kentucky
Florida
Georgia
Georgia Tech
South Carolina
North Carolina
NC State
Virginia
Virginia Tech
Clemson
Duke

West:
Texas
Texas A&M
Oklahoma
Missouri
Arkansas
LSU
Ole Miss
Mississippi St
Alabama
Auburn
Kansas
Vanderbilt
Really? You might want to check your sources there because how does that make sense? How is there additional revenue from adding 2 (or 4, good grief) watered down teams into the mix? There are only so many windows you can play in and once you've added an extra week of games, why am I as a network, going to pay more for less compelling matchups since this would necessarily mean the end of a number of rivalries? It makes no sense. Bringing in Texas and Oklahoma meant they added more than they take away by splitting the pie more ways...but UNC, UVA, VPI, NCSt? Give me a break that's dumb...and that's for adding 2 or 4. Adding 8 is even more idiotic. You think adding Kansas and Duke to the football lineup (which drives everything, bb is a bit player) with 6 others increases the revenue by over 50%? That is just really, really, unsmart. And Sankey is not dumb
 
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If you are making the playoffs by playing OVC and other small programs then you really do not belong in the playoffs any way. I think the B1G was right in forcing the SEC to stop raping their fans by charging premium prices for substandard competition.
So osu doesn’t belong? They play the tour of Ohio every year.
 
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If you are making the playoffs by playing OVC and other small programs then you really do not belong in the playoffs any way. I think the B1G was right in forcing the SEC to stop raping their fans by charging premium prices for substandard competition.

Accurate in one sense- who the heck wants to pay for those garbage games? If you offered me free tickets in a suite I wouldn't bother to go see UT-TnSt. But what the Big 10 people got wrong is that the overall schedules of SEC teams were still, as a whole, just as tough or tougher than the Big 10 schedules even with 1 less conference game. And that's what was important. Now they will almost all be more difficult.

Still, the move to 9 games is good.
 
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So osu doesn’t belong? They play the tour of Ohio every year.
They are starting this year playing Texas, typically play a strong OOC in addition to the conference schedule...it would be inaccurate in the extreme to say that, "they are making the playoffs by playing OVC and other small programs".
 
Exactly. Fans are going to have to understand that it’s not 1989 anymore where anything less than a 1 loss season is a failure. There is going to be a 9-3 team make a playoff run and win a national title in the not too distant future.
It seriously could happen this year and Ohio State almost lost to Nebraska last year.
 
Really? You might want to check your sources there because how does that make sense? How is there additional revenue from adding 2 (or 4, good grief) watered down teams into the mix? There are only so many windows you can play in and once you've added an extra week of games, why am I as a network, going to pay more for less compelling matchups since this would necessarily mean the end of a number of rivalries? It makes no sense. Bringing in Texas and Oklahoma meant they added more than they take away by splitting the pie more ways...but UNC, UVA, VPI, NCSt? Give me a break that's dumb...and that's for adding 2 or 4. Adding 8 is even more idiotic. You think adding Kansas and Duke to the football lineup (which drives everything, bb is a bit player) with 6 others increases the revenue by over 50%? That is just really, really, unsmart. And Sankey is not dumb
the SEC and the Big Ten's next contract structures for TV is going to look a lot different.

there are only 5-6 brands that "move" those deals, but there are three other factors at play:

1) The SEC and Big Ten will be the only two power conferences and will have 98% of all the important program brands. The other conferences like the ACC and Big XII will basically become G5 conferences with what's left

2) The SEC and Big Ten have different goals in terms of expansion. The SEC wants to continue to make contiguous expansion which makes sense and they also want the new markets and to improve academics and other sports while grabbing the bigger brands left. The Big Ten simply wants a far flung conference with all brands from all corners of the country. They may stop at 20 but they definitely will not go past 24.

3) The SEC and Big Ten will begin to look at revenue sharing where teams will not get equal shares but payoffs based on how much $ they bring to the conference in all sports. Much like the ACC and Big XII have done recently.

As for expansion itself the Big Ten is only looking at the following schools that they have actually put the numbers to their networks and presidents:

Big Ten candidates
Notre Dame (everyone wants obviously)
North Carolina (they want but UNC wants SEC)
Virginia (tossup but leaning towards SEC)
Florida State (The only large Southern brand that Big Ten will likely get)
Clemson (longshot but Big Ten doesn't really want)
Georgia Tech (fallback Southern candidate at 24)
Duke (long shot)
Miami (fallback Southern candidate at 24)
Kansas (considered but not likely)
Utah (heavily looked at for Western division)
Colorado (Heavily looked at for Western division)
California (not likely at this point)
Stanford (likely number 19 expansion with FSU or ND)
Pittsburgh (long shot)
Syracuse (Long shot)

the SEC have only discussed the following schools:
North Carolina (SEC's #1 choice for new state and overall, will be in SEC by 2032)
Virginia (SEC #2 choice for new state and overall, will be in SEC by 2032)
Florida State (not likely at this point, the SEC feels like they don't need FSU, long shot if they went to 24)
Clemson (likely if the SEC goes to 20-24)
NC State (package deal if needed with UNC)
Virginia Tech (package deal if needed with UVA)
Duke (likely 24th team if other candidates are gone)
Kansas (possible 24th team depending on dynamics)
Georgia Tech (possible team in 24 team scenario)
Miami (no shot at SEC)
West Virginia (no shot at SEC unless 4-5 other teams are elsewhere)
 
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the SEC and the Big Ten's next contract structures for TV is going to look a lot different.

there are only 5-6 brands that "move" those deals, but there are three other factors at play:

1) The SEC and Big Ten will be the only two power conferences and will have 98% of all the important program brands. The other conferences like the ACC and Big XII will basically become G5 conferences with what's left

2) The SEC and Big Ten have different goals in terms of expansion. The SEC wants to continue to make contiguous expansion which makes sense and they also want the new markets and to improve academics and other sports while grabbing the bigger brands left. The Big Ten simply wants a far flung conference with all brands from all corners of the country. They may stop at 20 but they definitely will not go past 24.

3) The SEC and Big Ten will begin to look at revenue sharing where teams will not get equal shares but payoffs based on how much $ they bring to the conference in all sports. Much like the ACC and Big XII have done recently.

As for expansion itself the Big Ten is only looking at the following schools that they have actually put the numbers to their networks and presidents:

Big Ten candidates
Notre Dame (everyone wants obviously)
North Carolina (they want but UNC wants SEC)
Virginia (tossup but leaning towards SEC)
Florida State (The only large Southern brand that Big Ten will likely get)
Clemson (longshot but Big Ten doesn't really want)
Georgia Tech (fallback Southern candidate at 24)
Duke (long shot)
Miami (fallback Southern candidate at 24)
Kansas (considered but not likely)
Utah (heavily looked at for Western division)
Colorado (Heavily looked at for Western division)
California (not likely at this point)
Stanford (likely number 19 expansion with FSU or ND)
Pittsburgh (long shot)
Syracuse (Long shot)

the SEC have only discussed the following schools:
North Carolina (SEC's #1 choice for new state and overall, will be in SEC by 2032)
Virginia (SEC #2 choice for new state and overall, will be in SEC by 2032)
Florida State (not likely at this point, the SEC feels like they don't need FSU, long shot if they went to 24)
Clemson (likely if the SEC goes to 20-24)
NC State (package deal if needed with UNC)
Virginia Tech (package deal if needed with UNC)
Duke (likely 24th team if other candidates are gone)
Kansas (possible 24th team depending on dynamics)
Georgia Tech (possible team in 24 team scenario)
Miami (no shot at SEC)
West Virginia (no shot at SEC unless 4-5 other teams are elsewhere)

Not a bad breakdown. I agree with most of it. Only one that I feel like could change is FSU. FSU just makes sense in the SEC. I know there is bad blood right now but money talks and that could change.

Big Ten will likely grab Western Schools and perhaps some of the Northern ACC schools (I think Syracuse could be more likely than we think or even Boston College to get more into upstate New York and New England markets). I think Miami could be on the list of B1G candidates, especially if FSU goes SEC route.

One that you are missing for the SEC is Texas Tech. Even though there are two Texas programs, Texas Tech does have a solid fan following and have been trying to court the SEC. They are getting an influx of cash right now. They are also in a unique area of Texas that puts them out of the A&M and Longhorn core region.

I also think Duke could be more likely than NC State to get into the SEC. The Duke-UNC Basketball series is very profitable and likely more attractive than anything NC State brings to the table. It makes them a better package deal than NC State.
 
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Not a bad breakdown. I agree with most of it. Only one that I feel like could change is FSU. FSU just makes sense in the SEC. I know there is bad blood right now but money talks and that could change.

Big Ten will likely grab Western Schools and perhaps some of the Northern ACC schools (I think Syracuse could be more likely than we think or even Boston College to get more into upstate New York and New England markets). I think Miami could be on the list of B1G candidates, especially if FSU goes SEC route.

One that you are missing for the SEC is Texas Tech. Even though there are two Texas programs, Texas Tech does have a solid fan following and have been trying to court the SEC. They are getting an influx of cash right now. They are also in a unique area of Texas that puts them out of the A&M and Longhorn core region.

I also think Duke could be more likely than NC State to get into the SEC. The Duke-UNC Basketball series is very profitable and likely more attractive than anything NC State brings to the table. It makes them a better package deal than NC State.
NC State has politicians that passed a state law that each school (UNC and NCSU) have to be in comparable conferences
 
NC State has politicians that passed a state law that each school (UNC and NCSU) have to be in comparable conferences

Texas and Texas A&M had the same law but A&M was able to bolt for the SEC. Oklahoma-Okie State may have been in the same boat.

I also think Duke and Wake were a part of that NC law process as well.

I don't think NC State is a bad pick for the SEC, by any means, but if there was a second Carolina team, all signs have pointed to Duke. Duke was with UNC when they had the talk 3-4 years ago with the SEC. Duke also makes a good football opponent for Vandy lmfao.
 
the SEC and the Big Ten's next contract structures for TV is going to look a lot different.

there are only 5-6 brands that "move" those deals, but there are three other factors at play:

1) The SEC and Big Ten will be the only two power conferences and will have 98% of all the important program brands. The other conferences like the ACC and Big XII will basically become G5 conferences with what's left

2) The SEC and Big Ten have different goals in terms of expansion. The SEC wants to continue to make contiguous expansion which makes sense and they also want the new markets and to improve academics and other sports while grabbing the bigger brands left. The Big Ten simply wants a far flung conference with all brands from all corners of the country. They may stop at 20 but they definitely will not go past 24.

3) The SEC and Big Ten will begin to look at revenue sharing where teams will not get equal shares but payoffs based on how much $ they bring to the conference in all sports. Much like the ACC and Big XII have done recently.

As for expansion itself the Big Ten is only looking at the following schools that they have actually put the numbers to their networks and presidents:

Big Ten candidates
Notre Dame (everyone wants obviously)
North Carolina (they want but UNC wants SEC)
Virginia (tossup but leaning towards SEC)
Florida State (The only large Southern brand that Big Ten will likely get)
Clemson (longshot but Big Ten doesn't really want)
Georgia Tech (fallback Southern candidate at 24)
Duke (long shot)
Miami (fallback Southern candidate at 24)
Kansas (considered but not likely)
Utah (heavily looked at for Western division)
Colorado (Heavily looked at for Western division)
California (not likely at this point)
Stanford (likely number 19 expansion with FSU or ND)
Pittsburgh (long shot)
Syracuse (Long shot)

the SEC have only discussed the following schools:
North Carolina (SEC's #1 choice for new state and overall, will be in SEC by 2032)
Virginia (SEC #2 choice for new state and overall, will be in SEC by 2032)
Florida State (not likely at this point, the SEC feels like they don't need FSU, long shot if they went to 24)
Clemson (likely if the SEC goes to 20-24)
NC State (package deal if needed with UNC)
Virginia Tech (package deal if needed with UNC)
Duke (likely 24th team if other candidates are gone)
Kansas (possible 24th team depending on dynamics)
Georgia Tech (possible team in 24 team scenario)
Miami (no shot at SEC)
West Virginia (no shot at SEC unless 4-5 other teams are elsewhere)
part 3 where you mention schools getting different shares is what killed the big 12. Texas destroyed their conference and for some reason we allowed them in to ours. I don't think the SEC would go that direction. Maybe we can get to 20 schools with conference games and 2 divisions. Then we can have our 9 games and a championship game and actually have what appears to be an actual conference again. We could call one the legacy division which contains the 10 teams that were in the conference before 1990 and we can call the other divisions whatever you want to because I just wouldn't care haha.
 
part 3 where you mention schools getting different shares is what killed the big 12. Texas destroyed their conference and for some reason we allowed them in to ours. I don't think the SEC would go that direction. Maybe we can get to 20 schools with conference games and 2 divisions. Then we can have our 9 games and a championship game and actually have what appears to be an actual conference again. We could call one the legacy division which contains the 10 teams that were in the conference before 1990 and we can call the other divisions whatever you want to because I just wouldn't care haha.
While i agree the SEC is pretty fair to all members, they may not have a choice. The Big Ten is already going that direction and the smaller schools (Purdue, NW, Indiana, Rutgers etc) have no recourse. Where are they going to go...i think as we move closer to a 48 team super division, Vandy, Miss State, MIzzou etc will gladly give up a bit of $ for a lot of security not becoming CUSA teams
 
Uhhh, you do NOT want to know what our combined record vs those three opponents is the last 20 years.

That's the very reason I want to play them. Its time for us to get revenge and flip those records on them.

Yall are such scared weak minded people. I can't believe how pathetic yall are running away from competition.
 
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Also our future SEC schedules (as the SEC is now) would look something like this:


2026
Furman
at Georgia Tech
Kennesaw State
at Texas
Missouri
at Ole Miss
South Carolina
Alabama
at Texas A&M
Kentucky
Florida
at Vanderbilt

2027
Tennessee State
Georgia Tech
Western Michigan
at Auburn
Oklahoma
at LSU
Georgia
at Alabama
Mississippi State
at Kentucky
at Arkansas
Vanderbilt
 
That's the very reason I want to play them. Its time for us to get revenge and flip those records on them.

Yall are such scared weak minded people. I can't believe how pathetic yall are running away from competition.

Why would Florida, Alabama or Georgia want to play us then? We've been scrubs they beat up on ever year. We have a combined 20 wins against those 3 in the last 25 years.
 
Why would Florida, Alabama or Georgia want to play us then? We've been scrubs they beat up on ever year. We have a combined 20 wins against those 3 in the last 25 years.

Maybe they're weak minded like yall and think we're still an easy W. I could care less what they think. I care about what we think and do. And we need to play them every year rather than scrub teams like Kentucky and Vanderbilt.

Also remember Nick Saban wasn't too keen on us becoming Alabama's permanent rival along with LSU and Auburn cause he saw that writing on the wall that we were no longer gonna be an easy W.
 
Maybe they're weak minded like yall and think we're still an easy W. I could care less what they think. I care about what we think and do. And we need to play them every year rather than scrub teams like Kentucky and Vanderbilt.

Also remember Nick Saban wasn't too keen on us becoming Alabama's permanent rival along with LSU and Auburn cause he saw that writing on the wall that we were no longer gonna be an easy W.

First off, football programs rise and fall all the time. Florida hasn't been doing hot either. If we really want to play the best, why not include Texas in there? Missouri has been better than Florida, we should include them instead.

Second off, Vanderbilt and Tennessee have played every year 1913 that didn't include the country in the middle of a World War. They are in-state rivals. It's a 3 hour drive. It's been played 118 times. Just because Vanderbilt suck doesn't mean we should eschew them and history. It already sucks we threw our rivalry away with Auburn because of divisions. Besides, they recently just beat us 5 times in 7 years. Lea just led them to a bowl game. It doesn't mean this will always be the case.

Third, other schools are going to have to agree with this. Georgia is going to have Auburn and Florida as their rivals. They've had a pretty good rivalry with Kentucky and South Carolina as well. Even if Danny wants to play the toughest competition, sacrifices are going to be made to get this to work.
 
Another thread, another horrendous take by one poster in particular. I have never seen someone so blatantly obtuse in their opinions and erroneous in their logic.

Tennessee’s biggest rival is Alabama.
Tennessee’s in-state rival is Vanderbilt.
Kentucky’s biggest rival is Tennessee.
Vanderbilt’s biggest rival is Tennessee.

Who does Kentucky play if not Tennessee?
Who does Vandy play if not Tennessee?

Permanent rivals were made in the first place for rivalries like The Third Saturday in October.

I would be shocked if it were anyone other than Alabama, Kentucky, and Vandy for the Vols.
 
Every year from 1903-1908 😀
Ummm...no sir.

Played in Birmingham from 1901 - 1908, then the series started the "home and home" setup, but Alabama still played their home games in Birmingham at that time.
It was played in Birmingham in 1912 as well, but then in Tuscaloosa in 1913, Knoxville in 1914.
The series was then placed on hold until 1928.
From 1928 thru 1931 the "home and home" was Tuscaloosa and Knoxville.
But from 1932 all the way through 1997, when the upper deck was added to Bryant-Denny, (with the exception of 1943) Bama played their home games in Birmingham - seating capacity at Legion Field was much higher than Bryant-Denny for most of those years and they knew TSIO was going to sellout every year.

So while Legion Field isn't really viable to host football games any longer, it would be cool if a neutral site could be found for the Third Saturday in October.
 
Ummm...no sir.

Played in Birmingham from 1901 - 1908, then the series started the "home and home" setup, but Alabama still played their home games in Birmingham at that time.
It was played in Birmingham in 1912 as well, but then in Tuscaloosa in 1913, Knoxville in 1914.
The series was then placed on hold until 1928.
From 1928 thru 1931 the "home and home" was Tuscaloosa and Knoxville.
But from 1932 all the way through 1997, when the upper deck was added to Bryant-Denny, (with the exception of 1943) Bama played their home games in Birmingham - seating capacity at Legion Field was much higher than Bryant-Denny for most of those years and they knew TSIO was going to sellout every year.

So while Legion Field isn't really viable to host football games any longer, it would be cool if a neutral site could be found for the Third Saturday in October.
1) Yes, sir -- 1903-1908 is the only period during which we played Bama in Birmingham "every year."

2) Legion Field was a neutral(ish) site for the Iron Bowl; for the Third Saturday in October, Legion Field was Alabama's home field.
 
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