9/28/16 presser

#26
#26
Fans affect recruiting 100 percent. Vanderbilt could have nick Saban there but he wouldn't recruit at the level he does because they fan base is so small. Small market vs large market.

Absolutely. And it's idiotic to think otherwise. But some (especially on here) hate Jones so much they will defend anything negative. It's pathetic.
 
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#27
#27
A long time diehard Vol fan told me last night he has quit going to games so much because it costs him around $1000 per weekend. That's pretty stiff. (not far above what it cost me the last couple of times I made the trip) What bothers me, sense the UCLA game a few years ago, has been lack of EFFORT. Watching players on the sideline playing around and quite a few not paying attention,, well if they don't try, the I don't pay to support them.
is this post supposed to be referencing 2010-2012 vols?

effort hasn't been the issue under CBJ. that's one of the positives he's brought to this program.
 
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#28
#28
Then switch to them. You'll fit right in. As for the rest of us we actually like UT and are happy with the great progress.

the discussion was about recruiting not wins and losses. Try to keep up, unless you think 2017 recruiting is progressing nicely.
 
#29
#29
the discussion was about recruiting not wins and losses. Try to keep up, unless you think 2017 recruiting is progressing nicely.

They go hand in hand. Unless VFL34 doesn't know what he's talking about. I'm sure you know more about getting recruited than he does...
 
#30
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You want to know how I know for a fact the Negavols affect recruiting?

My son plays Highschool ball..at 15 he is 6'4 225lb DE(muscle not fat)

My wife is born and raised knoxvegas vol fan.

If my son becomes good enough to go D1..My wife will not let him play for UT..all because first time she saw someone talk smack about him on here..she would hunt you down, and end up in jail for a long time.

So if a life long vol fanatic would not let her son go to UT because of the fans..imagine people from across the nation seeing what goes on in here.

Negavols might not want to hear the truth..but there it is

Just because you have the "right" to say want you want...does not mean you should
 
#31
#31
First off I would not boo at a college game, but having said that, I understand why the fans were upset at the end of the first half and I have not seen it mentioned specifically. With 30 or so seconds and a couple of time outs, why not run a play and see what happens? You never know. One missed tackle and you could get a touchdown or stop the clock with a time out and kick a field goal. It seemed like with the time left along with time outs, that the coaches gave up and just chalked any chance at getting points before the half. If the game was close, of course take a knee and live to play another down. However, being down 21-3 and giving up, even just 30 seconds worth, of a chance to score points was extremely frustrating. Hence the boos. Boos that were directed at the coach's decision to go to halftime without even trying.
what if they did run a play and a pass was called and an interception was made and run back. game over
 
#32
#32
They go hand in hand. Unless VFL34 doesn't know what he's talking about. I'm sure you know more about getting recruited than he does...

Negative fans or the results of a particular game(good or bad result) do not influence recruiting. Not at UT or anywhere else. That's my opinion.
 
#33
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You want to know how I know for a fact the Negavols affect recruiting?

My son plays Highschool ball..at 15 he is 6'4 225lb DE(muscle not fat)

My wife is born and raised knoxvegas vol fan.

If my son becomes good enough to go D1..My wife will not let him play for UT..all because first time she saw someone talk smack about him on here..she would hunt you down, and end up in jail for a long time.

So if a life long vol fanatic would not let her son go to UT because of the fans..imagine people from across the nation seeing what goes on in here.

Negavols might not want to hear the truth..but there it is

Just because you have the "right" to say want you want...does not mean you should

So, you'd turn down a scholarship because of negative comments on a message board? Good luck finding a school where that doesn't happen.
 
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#34
#34
So, you'd turn down a scholarship because of negative comments on a message board? Good luck finding a school where that doesn't happen.

Yeah its not like you can run and hide from it.

I wouldnt advise a parent to join a message board of any school their kid attended regardless.
 
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#35
Just because you have the "right" to say want you want...does not mean you should

Nothing could be more true, however, actually using this concept requires intelligence, thought and discression.......

Need I say more?
 
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#36
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You mean truth. What fan base doesn't have negativity besides a very select few? LSU is still in the top 5(2017 rankings) with all the negativity, and that was before les getting fired. Negative fans having an impact on recruiting is a load of BS

jerks gotta jerk
 
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So, you'd turn down a scholarship because of negative comments on a message board? Good luck finding a school where that doesn't happen.

It is not that it happens, it is the scale and ferocity that it happens here.

An 18yr old kid makes a mistake, or has a bad game or two. And this board fills up and people start tweeting directly at the poor kid, with you suck..shouldnt even be on the team..etc

They are not professionals getting paid to take that krap from fans..they are kids still learning to play the game for God's sake.

There is a serious deficiency in our fan base when it comes to that krap.
 
#38
#38
We were at home, got the ball to open the half, Dobbs and the receivers were not clicking against a very dangerous Gator defense. We needed to go in and regroup, and we did. As frustrating as the game was at the time , it was the right move.

It was the right call simply because we won in the end. If we lost the game, how many people would be upset that the coaches didn't even try at the end of the first half to move the ball with time and time outs for needed points? It reminded me of Dooley and the Missouri game that he "chose" to go to overtime and we ended up losing the game.
 
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#39
#39
what if they did run a play and a pass was called and an interception was made and run back. game over

If this had happened, I don't think there would have been any boos. I truly believe that the boos were directed solely at the coaches and their decision to not even try to move the ball.
 
#40
#40
If this had happened, I don't think there would have been any boos. I truly believe that the boos were directed solely at the coaches and their decision to not even try to move the ball.
It was the righT call.Strip sack or a pick six would have been disastrous.If we had better field position you go for it but not fairly deep on our own side of the field.
 
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#41
#41
It was the righT call.Strip sack or a pick six would have been disastrous.If we had better field position you go for it but not fairly deep on our own side of the field.

I agree with your statement in the sense of a turnover or more points for florida would have been disastrous. However there are ways of minimizing the risk. Keeping the tight end in for extra blocking, calling a roll out and instructions of throwing the ball away if nothings there, a simple hand off, etcetera , etcetera, etcetera.
 
#42
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It is not that it happens, it is the scale and ferocity that it happens here.

An 18yr old kid makes a mistake, or has a bad game or two. And this board fills up and people start tweeting directly at the poor kid, with you suck..shouldnt even be on the team..etc

They are not professionals getting paid to take that krap from fans..they are kids still learning to play the game for God's sake.

There is a serious deficiency in our fan base when it comes to that krap.
there's a difference between posting in this forum and tweeting a guy directly. those that feel the need to directly communicate with a 19 year old kid and belittle him have other issues that need to be dealt with.

most...MOST...of us here are pretty level headed, but we're very passionate about TN football and just want to see them do well. i'd say it's a very small minority of people here, or anywhere else, that take it to that level, and i'd be shocked if that opinion wasn't widely accepted around here.

the problem some have here is they like to "manage the exceptions", rather than acknowledge and understand that the VAST majority of fans are not knuckleheads, and that every fan base has their fair share of d**k heads. it's not exclusive to the Big Orange faithful.
 
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#43
It was the right call simply because we won in the end. If we lost the game, how many people would be upset that the coaches didn't even try at the end of the first half to move the ball with time and time outs for needed points? It reminded me of Dooley and the Missouri game that he "chose" to go to overtime and we ended up losing the game.

No it was the right call based on the circunstances of the moment regardless of outcome.

If we had lost it would just have been second guessed and nit picked even more than it has been.
 
#44
#44
No it was the right call based on the circunstances of the moment regardless of outcome.

If we had lost it would just have been second guessed and nit picked even more than it has been.

yeah, if you want to nit pick, i'm not gonna lie, when we got the ball back with a little over 4 minutes to go, and ran it 3 straight plays with FL having 2 time outs...i was like "oh no, here we go again".

funny how this game played out....they got the ball back, field position was terrible again for them, and it once again came down to a 4th down...this year....no sirrrreee.

so everything is candy and nuts this time around.

execution on defense and offense goes a long way to make a coach look good, or bad.:thumbsup:
 
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