8-year College Player

Are you o.k. with it?

  • Yes

    Votes: 4 6.8%

  • No

    Votes: 55 93.2%
  • Total voters
    59
#6
#6
What if eligibility could be for every student athlete enrolled in a full course load through to earning their PhD? That could be eight active years in collegiate sports… If any athlete wanted to do that…
 
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#9
#9
How can anyone be in favor of this? This is beyond ridiculous. No college football player should ever get more than 5 years for any reason and that includes bull crap like the flu.
 
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#10
#10
BigOrangeTrain said:
How can anyone be in favor of this? This is beyond ridiculous. No college football player should ever get more than 5 years for any reason and that includes bull crap like the flu.
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This would be 4 years for him, but it will have taken him 8 to get in four verses the normal 5.

Contrast to a player at BYU that goes on a 2-year mission that also has a redshirt and medical year - that is 8 too. Or a player that has to leave for the military during their school years.

It is NOT like he has played 8 years - he hasn't.
 
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volfan102455 said:
This would be 4 years for him, but it will have taken him 8 to get in four verses the normal 5.

Contrast to a player at BYU that goes on a 2-year mission that also has a redshirt and medical year - that is 8 too. Or a player that has to leave for the military during their school years.

It is NOT like he has played 8 years - he hasn't.
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Doesn’t matter. He should not have an 8th year of eligibility. The years of eligibility should be capped at 5 and that’s it regardless of the situation.
 
#12
#12
BigOrangeTrain said:
Doesn’t matter. He should not have an 8th year of eligibility. The years of eligibility should be capped at 5 and that’s it regardless of the situation.
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That would imply they would need to remove the exemptions for mission trips and military as well or any other hardship situation where a player must be out.

I don't agree with that. I think they should be able to participate for 4 years and if it takes 5, 6, 7, 8 or more so be it.
 
#13
#13
Tin Man said:
What if eligibility could be for every student athlete enrolled in a full course load through to earning their PhD? That could be eight active years in collegiate sports… If any athlete wanted to do that…
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That’s really the only thing that should matter. Full time student status. If someone getting paid to be a student athlete is not taking classes, then shouldn’t that be fraud?
 
#15
#15
Tin Man said:
Yes, one must be enrolled, engaged, and passing their classes to maintain their scholarship.
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Timeframes for degrees then become important or maybe an athlete earns multiple degrees -

- Standard timeline for B.S. degree is 4 years
- Standard time for Masters is 1 to 2 after the B.S. degree
- Standard time for PHD after Masters is 4 to 7

So an athlete can stay enrolled and engaged anywhere from 4 to 13 years. And what if they take a sabbatical for 2 years, then go back - are they now eligible again.

The NCAA guardrails were really based on the first degree with the 4 years following the freshman, sophomore, junior and senior concept. A lot of players achieve that in way less than 4 due to a head start in high school, going to class during the summer et al.

The entire NCAA thought pattern on this is way outdated!
 
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volfan102455 said:
This would be 4 years for him, but it will have taken him 8 to get in four verses the normal 5.

Contrast to a player at BYU that goes on a 2-year mission that also has a redshirt and medical year - that is 8 too. Or a player that has to leave for the military during their school years.

It is NOT like he has played 8 years - he hasn't.
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5 years to play 4 - period. College isn't a career.
 
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#18
What are you going to do with HS players.
What course level load of classes will they take.
8 years of basket weaving.
Without contracts absolutely not.
NIL and TP will have change rules. Which would include Salary caps.
 
#19
#19
In truth, name, image & likeness earnings are limited by the demand for these. Presently, collectives are paying hugely inflated moneys to lure athletes to specific programs, essentially usurping the intent of the change in rules.

In this situation, the pros and cons of annual contracts include the ability to limit outlays to players who are a bust, or prove ill-suited to the program. Options exercisable by the collective and clauses regarding performance in compliance with school requirements for scholarship and participation can help make sticky the players’ commitments to the program. Multi-year contracts with modified clauses could do the same while allowing for buyouts and buybacks. The contracts have to be attractive enough to win the players.
 
#20
#20
The 5 to play 4 is antiquated. We have had players getting 6 to play 4 for some time now.

Covid gave players an extra year. Players who had redshirted due to non-medical reasons, are being give a medical-redshirt year as well if the situation presents itself. The clause for missionary and military activities has always been an exception. We have players in divisions not controlled by the NCAA that are challenging whether the rules of the NCAA apply and rightfully so.

The sport has always had "older players" in the mix. That is NOT new. What is probably new is the number of players that are pushing the limits of the rules to remain active for NIL purposes.

Players that are projected to be first or second round NFL draft picks are probably going to still follow the path they have always followed. The NFL contracts will mirror or be better than the NIL ones. But for players that are either later round picks or not bound to the NFL, due to NIL, they are undoubtedly going to stick around as long as they can.

We can complain all we want - but this is the net impact of paying players. It just is.
 
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