5 years from now CLK or Clawson

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Tampavolz said:
So Don't blame Fulmer because it was Clawson. but don't blame Clawson because it was Adkins. None of them could get it done and now they are someone else's problem. If you and I were in the same room right now, I would bet you dinner at Ruth's Chris Bowling Green is no threat this season - even with your no doubt amazingly detailed study of 110 d-1 teams. You are in Ohio, i have business in Columbus,, do you live there?
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Urban Meyer, Bill Walsh, and Tiger Ellison in the best years of their careers couldn't have done anything last year with that group up front being led by that buffoon. I consider most college football players to largely come in blind; it's up to their coaches (position coach, coordinator, head coach) to turn them into something productive.

As long as Adkins was around, it was the blind leading the blind. I'd liken him more to Helen Keller; no matter what the coordinator wanted done, he wasn't paying attention. Had Ron Prince been in charge of the line over the last five years, we'd be seeing players leave UT with a handful of BCS games under their belts.

And I'll pass on your bet until next year. Just make sure to remind me of it next July.
 
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#178
rkl08 said:
Is it really his fault that ya'lls players were too st st stuuupid to follow a game plan??

I think BG players will catch on, and Clawson will lap clk many times.

:good!:
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Clawson isn't lapping anyone as long as he's at Bowling Green.
 
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vol_in_il said:
There's no way to say who Clawson would or wouldn't have signed..
He wasn't here long enough to do anything but loss a bunch of games and get fired
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As someone said... "You can't fix stupid..."

You just go on and believe that Clawson is a bad coach and that last year was the result of him. You just go on ahead and deny that at this time last year UT was in the process of building one of its best offensive classes EVER with guys that fit HIS system. While you are at it, live in denial of the fact that he and his guys "discovered" Phillips and Schofield before anyone else knew who they were.

I'm not unhappy that CPF was let go... When it happened, he had earned it. I defended his getting a shot and he did. Clawson was nothing more than a victim in that whole mess. As many have noted, his system takes 2-3 years to build but is highly effective going forward. It is complex and requires smart kids... which virtually ALL of his verbal commits were.

I'll root for CLK just as hard as I did the other guys... but to suggest last year was the defining year of Clawson's career is just... "stupid".
 
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sjt18 said:
As someone said... "You can't fix stupid..."

You just go on and believe that Clawson is a bad coach and that last year was the result of him. You just go on ahead and deny that at this time last year UT was in the process of building one of its best offensive classes EVER with guys that fit HIS system. While you are at it, live in denial of the fact that he and his guys "discovered" Phillips and Schofield before anyone else knew who they were.

I'm not unhappy that CPF was let go... When it happened, he had earned it. I defended his getting a shot and he did. Clawson was nothing more than a victim in that whole mess. As many have noted, his system takes 2-3 years to build but is highly effective going forward. It is complex and requires smart kids... which virtually ALL of his verbal commits were.

I'll root for CLK just as hard as I did the other guys... but to suggest last year was the defining year of Clawson's career is just... "stupid".
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Show me where I said it defined his career. It just happens to be the only part of his career I care about or followed.

Victim's a very liberal description for someone making $400,000 a year, to coach and win football games, and he fails
 
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vol_in_il said:
Show me where I said it defined his career. It just happens to be the only part of his career I care about or followed.
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You can't just make blanket statements then about how good a coach is... by ignoring the years you don't "care about or follow".

Victim's a very liberal description for someone making $400,000 a year, to coach and win football games, and he fails
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Failure because of his quality as a coach and failure because of the circumstances he walked into are two different things. The only mistake that is 100% on him is taking the job in the first place... but even then he had to think he'd: a) get the latitude he was promised, b) inherit players that were smart enough to at least flip sides without freaking out, and c) get more than a year to rebuild what Sanders ran into the ground over a span of 6 years.

Coach Fulmer ultimately failed because he couldn't or wouldn't hold close associates accountable. Namely Sanders for lacking the ability to discipline a unit and Chavis for poor game day coaching and non-existence in recruiting. There were others obviously like Slade and Adkins... but mostly those two guys.

Clawson had very little to do with it. He was a "victim" because most of what got him fired was determined before he ever signed the contract... not the least of which was that #35 recruiting class that UT signed due to coaches leaving, Chavis' laziness, and the discipline problems and resulting media frenzy in January 08.
 
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#183
Ydfalconvol said:
But yes, we do play football. No, we aren't quite a BCS program, but we are still what used to be called Division I and is now the FBS (Football Bowl Series as opposed to the former DII, now FCS, Football Championship Series) and bowl eligible as long as we win at least 6 games a year.
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BZZZ. Wrong. Division IAA become the FCS, not Division II.
 
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sjt18 said:
You can't just make blanket statements then about how good a coach is... by ignoring the years you don't "care about or follow".



Failure because of his quality as a coach and failure because of the circumstances he walked into are two different things. The only mistake that is 100% on him is taking the job in the first place... but even then he had to think he'd: a) get the latitude he was promised, b) inherit players that were smart enough to at least flip sides without freaking out, and c) get more than a year to rebuild what Cover a span of 6 years.

Coach Fulmer ultimately failed because he couldn't or wouldn't hold close associates accountable. Namely Sanders for lacking the ability to discipline a unit and Chavis for poor game day coaching and non-existence in recruiting. There were others obviously like Slade and Adkins... but mostly those two guys.

Clawson had very little to do with it. He was a "victim" because most of what got him fired was determined before he ever signed the contract... not the least of which was that #35 recruiting class that UT signed due to coaches leaving, Chavis' laziness, and the discipline problems and resulting media frenzy in January 08.
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Are you kidding me
Sanders was at KY, and your hanging Clawson's ****** performance on Sanders

I can at least understand other posters thoughts on Fulmer, and Clawson relationship's but to pull Sanders in is unbelievable

You should have at least gone with Cut he was the last OC at the helm, if you don't want to admit to Clawson's culpabilty
 
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Vol423 said:
BZZZ. Wrong. Division IAA become the FCS, not Division II.
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Admittedly, I am still working out the kinks of that. My apologies if I misunderstood what I read several months ago. However, the point still stands that BG is in the division which does not have a playoff (the FCS), but rather the one which plays bowl games, (the FBS).
 
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#186
Lofton4Three said:
In the intramural leagues?
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Intramural football?

College Gameday came to Bowling Green in 2003. When was the last time gameday visted knoxville? If they have its prolly only been at least once since then.

We beat ranked Pitt last year...and not to mention destoryed a team by the name ''Wyoming'' 45-16.

Didnt you guys play Wyoming last year??
 
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bgfalcons88 said:
Intramural football?

College Gameday came to Bowling Green in 2003. When was the last time gameday visted knoxville? If they have its prolly only been at least once since then.

We beat ranked Pitt last year...and not to mention destoryed a team by the name ''Wyoming'' 45-16.
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That is funny on so many levels.
 
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