5 star recruits

#76
#76
I would like to see the percentage of guys in the NFL who aren't 5 star as well. Is there really a difference between 3 and 4 star guys? Very often a guy is listed as 3 by one guy and 4 by another guy. It's all B.S. They are guessing like everyone else. They have a job and are trying to put food on the table like everyone else. It's all about how you play the game and who you know. Like everything else in this artificial world.
 
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IluvdoubleD's said:
Point being 3* guys are very often better players than 5* guys and even get drafted over 5* guys and are better pro's than 5* guys so what is your problem?
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I don't have time to run a basic statistics class but yes, 3 stars are often drafted above 4 and 5 stars.
 
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IluvdoubleD's said:
Looks like every other team... in fact less than every other team. almost none of those have worked out.
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Then the NFL channels you watch are broadcast from a different planet or an alternate universe from the one the rest of us enjoy.

Or are there nice young men in clean white coats that keep the remote? Just curious......
 
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TNnative said:
Then the NFL channels you watch are broadcast from a different planet or an alternate universe from the one the rest of us enjoy.

Or are there nice young men in clean white coats that keep the remote? Just curious......
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Bazinga
 
#82
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Just saying 5 star is a little broad. There are multiple agencies. We have about 7 that were at one time (by at least one agency) rated as 5 star. Hurd, Malone, Mckenzie , Tuttle, Richmond, Phillips, and Williams. And I think kamara was coming out of hs as well although he initially signed with bama
 
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08Vol said:
The coaches that can win big with lower ranked players are few and far between. Harbaugh was able to do it at Stanford, Kelly at Oregon, Petterson at Boise St, Stoops at OU, Snyder at K-State.

I'll believe Butch can do it when he actually does it. Right now his UT record is good against bad teams and bad against good teams.
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Our players aren't all lower ranked. We have 2 top 5 classes on campus. Butch has signed more 4 and 5 star players the last 3 years than all but 3 other programs (Alabama, Florida State, Georgia).

This idea we don't have talent because we have only 1 composite 5 star is bull. The roster is filled with highly recruited top 100 players. Many of them 5 stars on 2 of the major recruiting sites.

What Butch has shown that his 3 stars are typically better than that rating and that his 4 and 5 stars are as good as advertised.

Whatever he's doing, it's seems that we keep finding diamonds in the rough and our projected stars live up to the hype.
 
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chattaboogie said:
Someone here has posted the stats before. As I remember 5 stars are roughly fifty/fifty to be drafted.
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True. But the best NFL players were 2 and 3 stars.

I think what Butch does is good. Get as many 4 and 5 stars as you can but make sure you scout well to find those 3 stars with high ceilings.

I think his last 3 classes have been great. Even 2013 was good given the circumstances.

2017 is so far the only disappointing class of his tenure because he hasn't attracted that many high 4 and 5 star players. But then again it's July and there's a lot of time. If we have a huge season on the field recruiting should be no problem moving forward.
 
#86
#86
That all time list is good and sad. So many never made it. Slick Shelly, Chris Donald and many more. Stinks Brown is over Berry. Oh well GBO!!
 
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vol-un-tear said:
That all time list is good and sad. So many never made it. Slick Shelly, Chris Donald and many more. Stinks Brown is over Berry. Oh well GBO!!
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LOL Shelley was not a 5*. And the only other one at UT that comes to mind is OJ Owens.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
True. But the best NFL players were 2 and 3 stars.

I think what Butch does is good. Get as many 4 and 5 stars as you can but make sure you scout well to find those 3 stars with high ceilings.

I think his last 3 classes have been great. Even 2013 was good given the circumstances.

2017 is so far the only disappointing class of his tenure because he hasn't attracted that many high 4 and 5 star players. But then again it's July and there's a lot of time. If we have a huge season on the field recruiting should be no problem moving forward.
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I totally agree with this entire post. Looking back at what we know now, the 2013 class was really solid and with such little time CBJ done an amazing job.

The next 2 years were fantastic. This year is the only class that kinda gives you that uneasy feeling like it might not be so great. With all the instate talent this was supposed to be the year we had a chance at a number 1 ranking.

There's still plenty of time and this staff has earned our trust bringing in good talent. I've been thinking about it and it may be a case of Butch having to bring in high level classes the 1st few years, 2016 has been the year all along that we should compete with the big boys so where he has spent so many hours around the clock recruiting, now he has put the bulk of his time into this team for this season. Winning big will boost recruiting so he can focus all that time into the team and hopefully have a good season and use that boost coupled with after the season, pouring himself back into the recruiting trail he figures he can sew up and dam fine class and he prob can.

Idk? All just my opinion.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
True. But the best NFL players were 2 and 3 stars.

I think what Butch does is good. Get as many 4 and 5 stars as you can but make sure you scout well to find those 3 stars with high ceilings.

I think his last 3 classes have been great. Even 2013 was good given the circumstances.

2017 is so far the only disappointing class of his tenure because he hasn't attracted that many high 4 and 5 star players. But then again it's July and there's a lot of time. If we have a huge season on the field recruiting should be no problem moving forward.
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Peyton Manning was not a 2 or 3 star player. He was a 5 star or a high 4 star.
 
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#91
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The patriots draft soooo many 5*.

5* does not mean you will win. Do not care about 5*. I want PLAYERS. I want FOOTBALL guys.
 
#92
#92
It is important to get talent, and stars are one way to grade it. There can be no question about that. But, I do find it interesting that Sutton was a 3-star player (I think) and some of our biggest freshmen contributors, especially on O line, were 3-star recruits. J. Robertson comes to mind. What were Hall and Jones rated?

So, getting high star recruits is important, but it's just one way of grading talent and is not fool proof. A good mix of 5, 4 and 3 star is best. Right now, our current class is too heavy on the 3s.
 
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IluvdoubleD's said:
I don't remember any of them being drafted last year. They didn't have many drafted the year before either. In fact I don't think they have had very many players drafted the last 5 years. They kind of have a black cloud around them right now. basically nobody wants to put up with their thuggery. They know salami players will bring you down.
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You just jumped the shark and lost all credibility.
 
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