5 star recruits and how they wound up......

#26
#26
tnwalkingVols said:
I definitely agree with you about that. I'd be curious to know what happened to the 5 star recruits at other programs? Do you guys think it would show the same results?
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2003 5 stars

1 Ernie Sims FSU Drafted by Lions first round 2006 draft
2 Reggie Bush USC Drafted by Saints first round 2006 draft
3 Whitney Lewis USC Not Drafted-Transfer to Northern Iowa
4 Andre Caldwell Florida Drafted by Bengals third round of 2008 draft
5 Kyle Wright Miami Not Drafted
6 Prescott Burgess Michigan Drafted by Ravens sixth round 2007 draft
7 Tony Hills Jr Texas Drafted by Steelers 4th round 2008 draft
8 Jorrie Adams Texas A&M Not Drafted-Dismissed from Team
9 Paul Oliver Georgia Drafted 4th round supplemental draft 2007 by Chargers-Dismissed
10 Greg Olsen Notre Dame Drafted by Bears first round 2007 draft
11 Martin O'Donnell Illinois Not Drafted
12 Dee Webb Florida Drafted by Jaguars seventh round 2006 draft
13 Wesley Jefferson Maryland Not Drafted- Quit football
14 LaMarr Woodley Michigan Drafted by Steelers second round 2007 draft
15 Nathaniel Robinson Rutgers Not Drafted-Transfer to Akron
16 Joe Cohen Florida Drafted by 49ers fourth round 2007 draft
17 Chad Jackson Florida Drafted by Patriots second round 2006 draft
18 Ofa Mohetau BYU Not Drafted-Transfer to Juco-Signed with Texas Tech 2006
19 Kregg Lumpkin Georgia Not Drafted
20 Robert Meachem Tennessee Drafted by Saints first round 2007 draft
21 Demetris Summers S Carolina Not Drafted
22 Justin Ostrowski Wisconsin Not Drafted-Gave up football-medical
23 Victor Abiamiri Notre Dame Drafted by Eagles second round 2007 draft
24 Quinton Culbertson Miss St Not Drafted
25 Jarvis Moss Florida Drafted by Broncos first round 2007 draft
 
#27
#27
tnwalkingVols said:
I definitely agree with you about that. I'd be curious to know what happened to the 5 star recruits at other programs? Do you guys think it would show the same results?
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2004 5 stars

1 Adrian Peterson Oklahoma Vikings 1st Round 2007
2 Theodore Ginn Jr Ohio St Dolphins 1st Round 2007
3 Early Doucet LSU Cardinals 3rd Round 2008
4 Rhett Bomar Oklahoma Giants 5th Round 2009
5 Keith Rivers USC Bengals 1st Round 2008
6 Willie Williams Miami Not Drafted
7 Brandon Miller Georgia Not Drafted
8 Derrick Harvey Florida Jaguars 1st Round 2008
9 Jeff Schweiger USC Not Drafted
10 Xavier Lee FSU Not Drafted
11 DeMario Pressley NC State Saints 5th Round 2008
12 Anthony Morelli Penn St Not Drafted
13 Chad Henne Michigan Dolphins 2nd Round 2008
14 Kyle Williams Iowa Not Drafted
15 Chris Patterson Oklahoma Not Drafted
16 Matthew Tuiasosopo Washington Not Drafted
17 Cameron Colvin Oregon Not Drafted
18 Franklin Okam Texas Texans 5th Round 2008
19 Fred Davis USC Redskins 2nd Round 2008
20 Jeff Byers USC Not Drafted
21 Lance Leggett Miami Not Drafted
22 Xavier Carter LSU Not Drafted
23 Thomas Herring USC Not Drafted
24 Dan Conner Penn St Panthers 3rd Round 2008
25 Brian Toal Boston College Not Drafted
 
#28
#28
tnwalkingVols said:
I definitely agree with you about that. I'd be curious to know what happened to the 5 star recruits at other programs? Do you guys think it would show the same results?
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2005 5 stars

1 Derrick Williams Penn St Lions 3rd Round 2009
2 Patrick Turner USC Dolphins 3rd Round 2009
3 Eugene Monroe Virginia Jaguars 1st Round 2009
4 Melvin Alaeze Maryland Not Drafted
5 Ray Maualuga USC Bengals 2nd Round 2009
6 Fred Rouse FSU Not Drafted
7 Mark Sanchez USC Jets 1st Round 2009
8 Martellus Bennett Texas A&M Cowboys 2nd Round 2008
9 Reginald Youngblood Miami Not Drafted
10 Jonathan Stewart Oregon Panthers 1st Round 2008
11 DeMarcus Granger Oklahoma Not Drafted
12 Kenneth Phillips Miami Giants 1st Round 2008
13 Marlon Lucky Nebraska Not Drafted
14 Callahan Bright FSU Not Drafted
15 Jason Gwaltney W Virginia Not Drafted
16 Ryan Perrilloux LSU Not Drafted
17 Tray Blackmon Auburn Not Drafted
18 DeSean Jackson Califronia Eagles 2nd Round 2008
19 Justin King Penn St Rams 4th Round 2008
20 Alex Boone Ohio St Not Drafted
21 Demetrice Morley Tennessee Not Drafted
22 Kevin Grady Michigan Not Drafted
23 Darren McFadden Arkansas Raiders 1st Round 2008
24 Jerrell Powe Ole Miss
25 Antone Smith FSU Not Drafted
26 Ryan Reynolds Oklahoma Not Drafted
27 Dan Doering Iowa Not Drafted
28 Victor Harris Va Tech Eagles 5th Round 2009
 
#29
#29
LWSVOL said:
here is 2002 5 stars from Rivals and how they turned out. Less than half were drafted in the NFL.

1 Vincent Young Texas Drafted by Titans first round 2006 draft
2 Haloti Ngata Oregon Drafted by Ravens first round 2006 draft
3 Lorenzo Booker FSU Drafted by Dolphins third round 2007 draft
4 Ben Olson BYU Not Drafted-Transfer to UCLA
5 Reggie McNeal Texas A&M Drafted by Bengals sixth round 2006 draft
6 Chris Davis FSU Drafted by Titans third round 2007 draft
7 Ryan Moore Miami Not drafted
8 Marcus Vick Va Tech Not drafted-Dismissed from team
9 Leon Washington FSU Drafted by Jets fourth round 2006 draft
10 Ciatrick Fason Florida Drafted by Vikings fourth round 2004 draft
11 Kai Parham Virginia Not drafted
12 Gerald Riggs Jr Tennessee Not drafted13 Rodrique Wright Texas Drafted by Dolphins seventh round 2006 draft
14 Michael Johnson Virginia Not drafted
15 Justin Blalock Texas Drafted by Falcons second round 2007 draft
16 DiShon Platt FSU Not Drafted Did not qualify-never played anywhere
17 Ricardo Hurley S Carolina Not drafted
18 Nathan Rhodes Washington Not drafted-Gave up football-Injuries
19 Brandon Jeffries Tennessee Not drafted-Transfer to Newberry
20 Trent Edwards Stanford Drafted by Bills third round 2007 draft
21 Deljuan Robinson Miss St Not drafted
22 Jerious Norwood Miss St Drafted by Falcons third round 2006 draft
23 Marquis Johnson Texas Not drafted-DNQ-Juco-Signed Texas Tech
24 Derek Morris Ohio St Not drafted-Transfer to NC State
25 Darren Williams Miss St Not drafted-Dismissed from team
26 Pat Watkins FSU Drafted by Cowboys fifth round 2006 draft
27 Ahmad Brooks Virginia Drafted by Bengals in 2006 supplemental draft
28 Devin Hester Miami Drafted by Bears second round of 2006 draft
29 Mike D'Andrea Ohio St Not drafted
30 James Banks Tennessee Not drafted-Dismissed from team
31 Zach Latimer Oklahoma Not drafted
32 Ben Obomanu Auburn Drafted by Seahawks seventh round 2006 draft
33 Gabriel Watson Michigan Drafted by Cardinals fourth round 2006 draft
34 Jonathan Mapu Tennessee Not Drafted35 Edorian McCullough Texas Not drafted-Dismissed from Team/School
36 Marcedes Lewis UCLA Drafted by Jaguars first round 2006 draft
37 Maurice Clarett Ohio St Drafted by Broncos third round 2006 draft
38 Bryan Pickryl Texas Not drafted-Gave up Football - injuries
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You may be on to something here. I can't quite put my finger on it...:question:
 
#30
#30
I'd say something like how this is the 19th time in the last 20 yrs of the NFL Superbowls where atleast 1 Vol is represented in a superbowl. But hey that's just me, I tend to try to look at the positives more than I do searching for any negatives I can come up with.

Go Vols!
 
#33
#33
LWSVOL said:
2005 5 stars

1 Derrick Williams Penn St Lions 3rd Round 2009
2 Patrick Turner USC Dolphins 3rd Round 2009
3 Eugene Monroe Virginia Jaguars 1st Round 2009
4 Melvin Alaeze Maryland Not Drafted
5 Ray Maualuga USC Bengals 2nd Round 2009
6 Fred Rouse FSU Not Drafted
7 Mark Sanchez USC Jets 1st Round 2009
8 Martellus Bennett Texas A&M Cowboys 2nd Round 2008
9 Reginald Youngblood Miami Not Drafted
10 Jonathan Stewart Oregon Panthers 1st Round 2008
11 DeMarcus Granger Oklahoma Not Drafted
12 Kenneth Phillips Miami Giants 1st Round 2008
13 Marlon Lucky Nebraska Not Drafted
14 Callahan Bright FSU Not Drafted
15 Jason Gwaltney W Virginia Not Drafted
16 Ryan Perrilloux LSU Not Drafted
17 Tray Blackmon Auburn Not Drafted
18 DeSean Jackson Califronia Eagles 2nd Round 2008
19 Justin King Penn St Rams 4th Round 2008
20 Alex Boone Ohio St Not Drafted
21 Demetrice Morley Tennessee Not Drafted
22 Kevin Grady Michigan Not Drafted
23 Darren McFadden Arkansas Raiders 1st Round 2008
24 Jerrell Powe Ole Miss
25 Antone Smith FSU Not Drafted
26 Ryan Reynolds Oklahoma Not Drafted
27 Dan Doering Iowa Not Drafted
28 Victor Harris Va Tech Eagles 5th Round 2009
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Particularly ugly results right there.
 
#34
#34
tnwalkingVols said:
I put together a list on how our 5 star recruits have turned out over the past ten years. Let me know what you guys think and feel free to add anything if I missed something.

james banks-kicked off team (drugs)
mondre dickerson-rape charges
brandon jefferies-transfered to nc state
jonathan mapu-left to go on a church mission and came back out of shape
gerald riggs jr.-didn't make it the NFL
robert meachem-won a super bowl with the saints
jesse mahelona-mediocre career in the nfl. killed in a car wreck while driving under the influence
albert toeaina-spits on camera man after a loss to vandy
demetrice morley-kicked off team for missing practices and being late all the time
walter fisher-no clue what happened to this guy
eric berry-great career in college and on his way to big things in the nfl
chris donald-left and went to UTC
ben martin-hurt last year but has stayed out of trouble
kenny o'neal-left the program after he couldnt keep his grades up
brent vinson-involved with a murder investigation and covering up evidence
bryce brown-we all know how this ends
janzen jackson-already been in trouble (hope he keep his act clean under Dooleys direction)
darick rogers-already been in trouble (hope he keep his act clean under Dooleys direction)
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kind of makes you wonder why some people get pissed when we dont get 5 star players...
 
#35
#35
Pretty sickening the amount of "talent" that didn't pan out for us during the 00s.

I firmly believe that we will see less attrition in Dooley's classes than we did with Fulmer's and Kiffin's one class. While the overall average star ranking might be slightly less, in the long term we'll probably get more productivity. Frankly, I don't see how we couldn't.

Moreover, I can see Dooley land top 10 classes. He held together a top 10 class last year and we are on the cusp this year, even while going .500 in the regular season.
 
#36
#36
walter fisher works facilities at vanderbilt now. i see him cleaning our lab coats and killing in faculty intramurals.
 
#37
#37
tnwalkingVols said:
I put together a list on how our 5 star recruits have turned out over the past ten years. Let me know what you guys think and feel free to add anything if I missed something.

james banks-kicked off team (drugs)
mondre dickerson-rape charges
brandon jefferies-transfered to nc state
jonathan mapu-left to go on a church mission and came back out of shape
gerald riggs jr.-didn't make it the NFL
robert meachem-won a super bowl with the saints
jesse mahelona-mediocre career in the nfl. killed in a car wreck while driving under the influence
albert toeaina-spits on camera man after a loss to vandy
demetrice morley-kicked off team for missing practices and being late all the time
walter fisher-no clue what happened to this guy
eric berry-great career in college and on his way to big things in the nfl
chris donald-left and went to UTC
ben martin-hurt last year but has stayed out of trouble
kenny o'neal-left the program after he couldnt keep his grades up
brent vinson-involved with a murder investigation and covering up evidence
bryce brown-we all know how this ends
janzen jackson-already been in trouble (hope he keep his act clean under Dooleys direction)
darick rogers-already been in trouble (hope he keep his act clean under Dooleys direction)
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is that y we just get 3 and 4 stars now cuz they work out better for us? I kid
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#38
#38
you did not do mahelona justice. the guy was absolutely incredible for us in 2004. second best DT we had this decade. yes, he was better than haynesworth was in college.
 
#39
#39
Counterpoint:

That is about the most negative-Nancy analysis that I've seen. No offense. The bad that an 18-22 year old kid under a microscope gets outed for are listed. How many of these players were highly productive for us? Gerald Riggs=Yes. Walter Fisher=Yes. Jesse Mahalona=Yes. James Banks=Yes. Mondre Dickerson=Yes. Meachem=Yes. Toeaina=Yes. Demetrice Morley=Yes. Bryce Brown=Yes. Janzen Jackson=Yes. ...

Did they get picked top 5 in the NFL, or lead us to a NC? No. Did they work hard and help produce wins for us? Yes. Not all panned out, but neither does any other "class" of player.

Nice research to get the list, but slanting the efforts and effectiveness of all those players is categorically unfair. How about a full list of the 3* players and how each one panned out in the NFL draft or in their personal life. Let's see which list has the higher % of effectiveness.

... then this one ...


LWSVOL said:
here is 2002 5 stars from Rivals and how they turned out. Less than half were drafted in the NFL.

1 Vincent Young Texas Drafted by Titans first round 2006 draft
2 Haloti Ngata Oregon Drafted by Ravens first round 2006 draft
3 Lorenzo Booker FSU Drafted by Dolphins third round 2007 draft
4 Ben Olson BYU Not Drafted-Transfer to UCLA
5 Reggie McNeal Texas A&M Drafted by Bengals sixth round 2006 draft
6 Chris Davis FSU Drafted by Titans third round 2007 draft
7 Ryan Moore Miami Not drafted
8 Marcus Vick Va Tech Not drafted-Dismissed from team
9 Leon Washington FSU Drafted by Jets fourth round 2006 draft
10 Ciatrick Fason Florida Drafted by Vikings fourth round 2004 draft
11 Kai Parham Virginia Not drafted
12 Gerald Riggs Jr Tennessee Not drafted
13 Rodrique Wright Texas Drafted by Dolphins seventh round 2006 draft
14 Michael Johnson Virginia Not drafted
15 Justin Blalock Texas Drafted by Falcons second round 2007 draft
16 DiShon Platt FSU Not Drafted Did not qualify-never played anywhere
17 Ricardo Hurley S Carolina Not drafted
18 Nathan Rhodes Washington Not drafted-Gave up football-Injuries
19 Brandon Jeffries Tennessee Not drafted-Transfer to Newberry
20 Trent Edwards Stanford Drafted by Bills third round 2007 draft
21 Deljuan Robinson Miss St Not drafted
22 Jerious Norwood Miss St Drafted by Falcons third round 2006 draft
23 Marquis Johnson Texas Not drafted-DNQ-Juco-Signed Texas Tech
24 Derek Morris Ohio St Not drafted-Transfer to NC State
25 Darren Williams Miss St Not drafted-Dismissed from team
26 Pat Watkins FSU Drafted by Cowboys fifth round 2006 draft
27 Ahmad Brooks Virginia Drafted by Bengals in 2006 supplemental draft
28 Devin Hester Miami Drafted by Bears second round of 2006 draft
29 Mike D'Andrea Ohio St Not drafted
30 James Banks Tennessee Not drafted-Dismissed from team
31 Zach Latimer Oklahoma Not drafted
32 Ben Obomanu Auburn Drafted by Seahawks seventh round 2006 draft
33 Gabriel Watson Michigan Drafted by Cardinals fourth round 2006 draft
34 Jonathan Mapu Tennessee Not Drafted
35 Edorian McCullough Texas Not drafted-Dismissed from Team/School
36 Marcedes Lewis UCLA Drafted by Jaguars first round 2006 draft
37 Maurice Clarett Ohio St Drafted by Broncos third round 2006 draft
38 Bryan Pickryl Texas Not drafted-Gave up Football - injuries
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... again, why not take the same year and get a random list of 3 stars and see which list ends with the most AAs and NFL Pro-Bowlers as a % of the number of players. Do you really think ONLY HALF of the 3* players were drafted. There were dozens and dozens of those. Just do the math.

Yes, I hope Dooley is going to have a productive class with lower star guys too. I trust an SEC staff to make more accurate choices than any recruiting service. Whether they can actually land them is another story. But rapping on 5* players as Prima-Donas is not accurate. I'll take as many as our coaches can get!

If Dooley had four 5* and 15 4* players already signed, many around here would be struttin' around like peacocks and talking about the upcoming decade of dominance.

No offense, JMO.
 
#41
#41
livefaith said:
Counterpoint:

That is about the most negative-Nancy analysis that I've seen. No offense. The bad that an 18-22 year old kid under a microscope gets outed for are listed. How many of these players were highly productive for us? Gerald Riggs=Yes. Walter Fisher=Yes. Jesse Mahalona=Yes. James Banks=Yes. Mondre Dickerson=Yes. Meachem=Yes. Toeaina=Yes. Demetrice Morley=Yes. Bryce Brown=Yes. Janzen Jackson=Yes. ...

Did they get picked top 5 in the NFL, or lead us to a NC? No. Did they work hard and help produce wins for us? Yes. Not all panned out, but neither does any other "class" of player.

Nice research to get the list, but slanting the efforts and effectiveness of all those players is categorically unfair. How about a full list of the 3* players and how each one panned out in the NFL draft or in their personal life. Let's see which list has the higher % of effectiveness.

... then this one ...



[/I]
... again, why not take the same year and get a random list of 3 stars and see which list ends with the most AAs and NFL Pro-Bowlers as a % of the number of players. Do you really think ONLY HALF of the 3* players were drafted. There were dozens and dozens of those. Just do the math.

Yes, I hope Dooley is going to have a productive class with lower star guys too. I trust an SEC staff to make more accurate choices than any recruiting service. Whether they can actually land them is another story. But rapping on 5* players as Prima-Donas is not accurate. I'll take as many as our coaches can get!

If Dooley had four 5* and 15 4* players already signed, many around here would be struttin' around like peacocks and talking about the upcoming decade of dominance.

No offense, JMO.
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if you want to see how the NFL drafts selected Rivals stars, check out link. Bottom right drop down has the data

Welcome to Larry's Locker!!

by the way there are other drop downs that cover some of Rivals complete lists.

I was not trying to show negativity, just responding to data I had in regards to 5 stars. I think that was the question.
 
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#43
#43
UT is going to require early contribution for the next several years....we better hope more five stars are on the horizon.
 
#45
#45
livefaith said:
Counterpoint:

That is about the most negative-Nancy analysis that I've seen. No offense. The bad that an 18-22 year old kid under a microscope gets outed for are listed. How many of these players were highly productive for us? Gerald Riggs=Yes. Walter Fisher=Yes. Jesse Mahalona=Yes. James Banks=Yes. Mondre Dickerson=Yes. Meachem=Yes. Toeaina=Yes. Demetrice Morley=Yes. Bryce Brown=Yes. Janzen Jackson=Yes. ...

Did they get picked top 5 in the NFL, or lead us to a NC? No. Did they work hard and help produce wins for us? Yes. Not all panned out, but neither does any other "class" of player.

Nice research to get the list, but slanting the efforts and effectiveness of all those players is categorically unfair. How about a full list of the 3* players and how each one panned out in the NFL draft or in their personal life. Let's see which list has the higher % of effectiveness.

... then this one ...



[/I]
... again, why not take the same year and get a random list of 3 stars and see which list ends with the most AAs and NFL Pro-Bowlers as a % of the number of players. Do you really think ONLY HALF of the 3* players were drafted. There were dozens and dozens of those. Just do the math.

Yes, I hope Dooley is going to have a productive class with lower star guys too. I trust an SEC staff to make more accurate choices than any recruiting service. Whether they can actually land them is another story. But rapping on 5* players as Prima-Donas is not accurate. I'll take as many as our coaches can get!

If Dooley had four 5* and 15 4* players already signed, many around here would be struttin' around like peacocks and talking about the upcoming decade of dominance.

No offense, JMO.
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When I did the research on these players I didn't have a clue what I would find. I simply went to the Rivals site and made a list of all the 5 star recruits they had listed since 2002. Then I googled each players name and wrote down what I found as to where they eventually wound up. This thread was started as to where they wound up and not meant for what they contributed while they were at UT. The thread was not started to be negative. If all the players had been model citizens and made it in the NFL I would have wrote that down. Facts are facts. I posed this question to give us something different to talk about other than what coach is leaving to go to another program or what the starting lineup will be next year. With NSD close and everyone up in arms about "star" rating I was curious were our past 5 star recruits wound up. If you read I noted the players that didn't get into trouble and/or had good careers in the NFL.
 
#46
#46
LWSVOL said:
if you want to see how the NFL drafts selected Rivals stars, check out link. Bottom right drop down has the data

Welcome to Larry's Locker!!

by the way there are other drop downs that cover some of Rivals complete lists.

I was not trying to show negativity, just responding to data I had in regards to 5 stars. I think that was the question.
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Great site Larry. Lots of good information there. Thanks for the link.
 
#47
#47
I think Daniel Brooks was the #1 rated LB in the country, not sure if he was a 5 star, though. "The next Al Wilson".
 
#48
#48
I'll give you a better list.

Reggie Bush
Ernie Sims
Vince Young
Tim Tebow
Justin Blalock
Jerious Norwood
Ahmad Brooks
Devin Hester
Ben Obomanu
Andre Caldwell
Greg Olsen
Lamar Woodley
Chad Jackson
Jarvis Moss
Adrian Peterson
Ted Ginn Jr
Early Doucet
Keith Rivers
Derrick Harvey
Chad Henne
Jeff Byers
Dan Connor
Derrick Williams
Ray Maualauga
Mark Sanchez
Jonathon Stewart
Kenny Phillips
Desean Jackson
Justin King
Darren McFadden
Jerrell Powe
Dan Doering
Percy Harvin
Andre Smith
Gerald McCoy
Sergio Kindle
Matt Stafford
CJ Spiller
Allen Bradford
Myron Rolle
Brandon Spikes
Brandon Graham
Taylor Mays

All 5 stars that had good careers in college and/or play in the NFL
 
#49
#49
livefaith said:
Counterpoint:

That is about the most negative-Nancy analysis that I've seen. No offense. The bad that an 18-22 year old kid under a microscope gets outed for are listed. How many of these players were highly productive for us? Gerald Riggs=Yes. Walter Fisher=Yes. Jesse Mahalona=Yes. James Banks=Yes. Mondre Dickerson=Yes. Meachem=Yes. Toeaina=Yes. Demetrice Morley=Yes. Bryce Brown=Yes. Janzen Jackson=Yes. ...

Did they get picked top 5 in the NFL, or lead us to a NC? No. Did they work hard and help produce wins for us? Yes. Not all panned out, but neither does any other "class" of player.

Nice research to get the list, but slanting the efforts and effectiveness of all those players is categorically unfair. How about a full list of the 3* players and how each one panned out in the NFL draft or in their personal life. Let's see which list has the higher % of effectiveness.

... then this one ...



[/I]
... again, why not take the same year and get a random list of 3 stars and see which list ends with the most AAs and NFL Pro-Bowlers as a % of the number of players. Do you really think ONLY HALF of the 3* players were drafted. There were dozens and dozens of those. Just do the math.

Yes, I hope Dooley is going to have a productive class with lower star guys too. I trust an SEC staff to make more accurate choices than any recruiting service. Whether they can actually land them is another story. But rapping on 5* players as Prima-Donas is not accurate. I'll take as many as our coaches can get!

If Dooley had four 5* and 15 4* players already signed, many around here would be struttin' around like peacocks and talking about the upcoming decade of dominance.

No offense, JMO.
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Talk about a "Negative Nacy." Dude, our class is ranked #18 at Rivals right now. That isn't stellar, but it isn't exactly bottom of the barrell, either, especially given all of the turmoil in the program the last three years.
 
#50
#50
LWSVOL said:
if you want to see how the NFL drafts selected Rivals stars, check out link. Bottom right drop down has the data

Welcome to Larry's Locker!!

by the way there are other drop downs that cover some of Rivals complete lists.

I was not trying to show negativity, just responding to data I had in regards to 5 stars. I think that was the question.
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Great info. I was surprised by the number of 2* players who got drafted high.
 
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