#5 Louisville just lost

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KBVol said:
We're a 3-loss team, ranked #19, with a bad body of work. Today people are uncategorically saying that Louisville, who is now a 2-loss team and ranked 13 spots ahead of us, has no chance of making the playoffs, and they're right.

There are teams, several teams, who will need to lose 2 and 3 times still for us to even be mentioned, much less considered. As much as I hate it, it ain't happening brother, no matter which letter you assign to "the plan" and how high you want the team to jump. We had our opportunities vs TAM and SCar but were not good enough to cash in on them. It is what it is.
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Well said
 
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KBVol said:
We're a 3-loss team, ranked #19, with a bad body of work. Today people are uncategorically saying that Louisville, who is now a 2-loss team and ranked 13 spots ahead of us, has no chance of making the playoffs, and they're right.

There are teams, several teams, who will need to lose 2 and 3 times still for us to even be mentioned, much less considered. As much as I hate it, it ain't happening brother, no matter which letter you assign to "the plan" and how high you want the team to jump. We had our opportunities vs TAM and SCar but were not good enough to cash in on them. It is what it is.
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Because they have no big game left to move up in the rankings and won't play for a conference title. While we have a chance to win the SEC championship over the #1 team in the country.

Those of you who believe we have no chance are stuck in the AP poll era mindset. You guys are counting losses. You think as a 3-loss team we won't be able to jump 2-loss teams. You're wrong.

In the playoff committee era, they've proven they care about 2 things: who you beat and conference titles. If we win the SEC championship and beat #1 Alabama in the process, we would head to the front of the line of 3-loss conference champions and get in front of every 2-loss non-champ.

A 10-3 (conference champion) will be ahead of every 10-2 non-champion.
 
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GoVolunteers said:
And he gets tons of "likes" for those post... I gotta believe they are purely for the entertainment value of the post and not based on anything serious.
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Of course, because there are several posters here who automatically like anything pro-UT, no matter how absurd it is.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
A 2-loss team made the BCS national title game.

I outlined a scenario in which TWO 3-loss teams could make the playoffs this year. USC and Tennessee can make the playoff as 3-loss champs.
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So you outlined where the top 15 teams all lose 2 games in the next 2 weeks or so?

Come on...
 
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#108
Dougie_D said:
So you outlined where the top 15 teams all lose 2 games in the next 2 weeks or so?

Come on...
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They don't need those teams ranked ahead of them to lose 2 more games.

A 10-3 conference champion will jump every 10-2 non-champion.

You guys think it's impossible because you're stuck in the AP poll mindset. This is the playoff era. The committee has shown they will rank teams with more losses ahead of teams with less losses if the team with more losses has more impressive wins. Look no further than USC who is currently ranked ahead of 1-loss West Virginia.

If we win the SEC championship we will be 10-3 with a win over #1 Alabama. That would be good enough to jump us ahead of EVERY 2-loss non-champion.

Last year Stanford jumped ahead of 11-1 Ohio State in the final playoff ranking because they won the Pac-12 championship at 11-2. They had one more loss than Ohio State but were ranked ahead of them because they won their conference championship.

10-3 (conference champion) will be ranked ahead of any 10-2 (non-champion).
 
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volfannbama said:
No they cant
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Yes they can. They just need Va-Tech to win the ACC title over Clemson. They need Michigan to win out. And they need Oklahoma to win the Big 12 at 9-3.

All that happens and Tennesee and USC win their conference titles, they make the playoffs as 3-loss conference champions.
 
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Paths for Oklahoma, USC and nine other underdogs to the College Football Playoff - CBSSports.com

No. 19 Tennessee (7-3, 3-3 SEC)

Best win(s): vs. No. 23 Florida | Losses: vs. No. 1 Alabama, at No. 25 Texas A&M, at South Carolina

Remaining games (must-wins): vs. Missouri, at Vanderbilt

What needs to happen: A whole helluva lot. Tennessee needs Florida to lose to LSU, and the Vols need to win out against Mizzou and Vandy. If they do that it, which is compltely possible and perhaps even likely, then Tennessee has to go to Atlanta and beat Alabama. If all that happens, Tennessee is your SEC champion, and even with three losses, that carries some cache.

But probably not enough.

Considering Alabama would probably still get into the playoff even with the loss, that means Tennessee is fighting four other Power Five champions for those other three spots. So if a three-loss USC wins the Pac-12, and either a three-loss North Carolina or Virginia Tech win the ACC, now the Vols are in business. If that happens, it would probably be best for Michigan or Ohio State to win the Big Ten to help ensure a second Big Ten team doesn't get a berth.

So let's imagine a scenario in which Oklahoma, Alabama and Michigan/Ohio State get three spots. Then it's a 10-3 Tennessee team against a 10-3 USC team and a 10-3 ACC champion for that final spot, and I would wager the SEC factor, as well as just beating Alabama, tilts the scale in Tennessee's favor.

Will they get in? Listen, this list was just about including teams that have a chance, not simply teams that have a good chance. Make no mistake about it, Tennessee's chances are not good. Chance: 0.5 percent
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This pretty much outlines what I've already set. We still have a chance although its slim.
 
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#111
Taking a two loss SEC Champion over a 1 loss any other conference champion is a no brainer . . . taking a three loss SEC Champion over a 2 loss any other conference champion is a no brainer too!! Playing for ALL the marbles every Saturday!!

Vols Jump Higher!!
 
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volfannbama said:
Sports writers have the goal of getting the most amount of people to read their story. Congratulations you helped them reach their goal.
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What the frick is wrong with you weirdos? Why do you have a problem with hope?

Sure the chances we make the playoffs are slim. But some of us fans like to hold on to that slim chance no matter how remote it can be.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Yes they can. They just need Va-Tech to win the ACC title over Clemson. They need Michigan to win out. And they need Oklahoma to win the Big 12 at 9-3.

All that happens and Tennesee and USC win their conference titles, they make the playoffs as 3-loss conference champions.
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Its not like basketball -- the conf title game champ does not get an automatic berth to anything
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
0.5 is a lot worse than "slim".
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Sure. But 0.5% is alot better than our chances to complete that hail mary against UGA.

This has been a bizarre year in sports. From Villanova winning the college basketball national title on a buzzer beater against North Carolina to the Cleveland Cavaliers winning the NBA title from 3-1 down to give the city of Cleveland its first professional title in 50 something years to the Chicago Cubs winning the world series for the first time in 108 years.

I'll take our 0.5% chances of making the playoffs.
 
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508mikey said:
Its not like basketball -- the conf title game champ does not get an automatic berth to anything
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***Sigh***

Some of you are really slow. No spit the conference title doesn't give you an automatic berth but it does give you a leg up on similarly situated teams. A 10-3 conference champion will get in over a 10-2 non-champion.

I think you guys are blinded by the old AP poll mentality where you only move up if they guys ahead of you lose. The playoff committee is different. They look at your complete resume each week. They value strength of schedule and who you beat more than they do whether you have less losses than someone.

If we win the SEC championship game and beat #1 undefeated Alabama, we will soar up the rankings. The only teams ahead of us would be 1-loss teams (of which there are barely any left) and 2-loss conference champions. We would be ranked ahead of EVERY 2-loss non-champion.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
***Sigh***

Some of you are really slow. No spit the conference title doesn't give you an automatic berth but it does give you a leg up on similarly situated teams. A 10-3 conference champion will get in over a 10-2 non-champion.

I think you guys are blinded by the old AP poll mentality where you only move up if they guys ahead of you lose. The playoff committee is different. They look at your complete resume each week. They value strength of schedule and who you beat more than they do whether you have less losses than someone.

If we win the SEC championship game and beat #1 undefeated Alabama, we will soar up the rankings. The only teams ahead of us would be 1-loss teams (of which there are barely any left) and 2-loss conference champions. We would be ranked ahead of EVERY 2-loss non-champion.
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Alabama can lose the SECT game to UT and they will still get in 12-1 will always trump 10-3
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
What the frick is wrong with you weirdos? Why do you have a problem with hope?

Sure the chances we make the playoffs are slim. But some of us fans like to hold on to that slim chance no matter how remote it can be.
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Fans often latch on to unrealistic goals. The they demand overreaction when their unrealistic goals are not met.
 
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Freak said:
As for Petrino, he had that deer in the headlights look at halftime. Lol.
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With Herman and Petrino both being on our short list of coaches "we should have hired", because "they're real coaches that don't lose to inferior teams", our list keeps getting shorter.

But hey, they always have Gruden. I mean if you're not coaching, you're not losing any games.. right?
 
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508mikey said:
Alabama can lose the SECT game to UT and they will still get in 12-1 will always trump 10-3
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No spit sherlock.

Good thing there are 3 more spots in the playoff. That's why I've said we need to root for Va-Tech to beat Clemson, Michigan or Ohio State to win the Big 10 championship, and for Oklahoma to finish 9-3 but still win the Big 12.

Those 3 things happens and we beat Alabama, then we're in.

1. Ohio State/Michigan (12-1; Big 10 Champ)
2. Alabama (12-1)
3. Pac 12 champ
4. Tennessee (10-3; SEC Champ)

Outside looking in: Clemson (11-2; lost ACC championship game), Va-Tech (10-3; ACC Champ), Oklahoma (9-3; Big 12 Champ), Michigan/Ohio State loser (10-2)
 
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iam4utaways said:
Taking a two loss SEC Champion over a 1 loss any other conference champion is a no brainer . . . taking a three loss SEC Champion over a 2 loss any other conference champion is a no brainer too!! Playing for ALL the marbles every Saturday!!

Vols Jump Higher!!
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How do you figure?

LSU lost to Wisconsin
Ol Miss lost to Florida St.
Auburn lost to Clemson
Miss St lost to South Alabama, BYU,
Mizzu lost to WVU, MTSU,
Vandy lost to Ga Tech,
Kentucky lost to SMU

You get the picture. The thought that the SEC is the only conference that is good and simply dominates all others is just laughable to everyone outside of delusional SEC fans.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
No spit sherlock.

Good thing there are 3 more spots in the playoff. That's why I've said we need to root for Va-Tech to beat Clemson, Michigan or Ohio State to win the Big 10 championship, and for Oklahoma to finish 9-3 but still win the Big 12.

Those 3 things happens and we beat Alabama, then we're in.

1. Ohio State/Michigan (12-1; Big 10 Champ)
2. Alabama (12-1)
3. Pac 12 champ
4. Tennessee (10-3; SEC Champ)

Outside looking in: Clemson (11-2; lost ACC championship game), Va-Tech (10-3; ACC Champ), Oklahoma (9-3; Big 12 Champ), Michigan/Ohio State loser (10-2)
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Its nice to dream, but they will almost no doubt take 2 Big10 teams before 2 SEC teams and the PAC 12 isnt getting USC thats for sure
 
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