5-7 here we come.

[loggervol]

If Butch leaves, that's exactly where we'll be for the next 10 years. Because I don't know of any coach that can come in and get the imbecile's what they want in the 1st to the 4th years. And, I don't have any confidence in the people hiring the next coach....

So, please, celebrate getting rid of a 9-4 coach, for someone that can't do the job the present coach is doing.

Thank you guys for making it absolutely unbearable to be on volnation right now. What we need is a little more negativity. So, carry on.

 

[gunner]

I don't want to go back to 5-7 every season, but I don't want to lose to Vandy again in the next 30 years either. Firing a winning coach is very risky business, just ask Nebraska or Georgia.

Butch is our coach, I just hope he can turn it around and win a SEC title at UT in the very near future.

 

[Bauce]

If Butch leaves, that's exactly where we'll be for the next 10 years. Because I don't know of any coach that can come in and get the imbecile's what they want in the 1st to the 4th years. And, I don't have any confidence in the people hiring the next coach....

So, please, celebrate getting rid of a 9-4 coach, for someone that can't do the job the present coach is doing.

Thank you guys for making it absolutely unbearable to be on volnation right now. What we need is a little more negativity. So, carry on.

Yawn...stop acting all scary

 

[Catbone]

Lol another poster blaming everything on the fans. Well done OP :crazy:

 

[Volstylexx]

Yawn...stop acting all scary

He's just stating the facts.

2008: 5-7
2009: 7-6
2010: 6-7
2011: 5-7
2012: 5-7
2013: 5-7
2014: 7-6
2015: 9-4
2016 : 8-4

I'm sure our next new coach from the sun belt will have us to 11 wins in no time!

 

[gunner]

He's just stating the facts.

2008: 5-7
2009: 7-6
2010: 6-7
2011: 5-7
2012: 5-7
2013: 5-7
2014: 7-6
2015: 9-4
2016 : 8-4

I'm sure our next new coach from the sun belt will have us to 11 wins in no time!

That's a risk that I'm not willing to take.

 

[TheSpartan]

The fact is UT is a historically top level football program, just outside of the top 5 or so "elite" tier. It's time to stop eating **** and liking it or we may not be able to change the culture back to what it was.

 

[VolFreakJosh]

He's just stating the facts.

2008: 5-7
2009: 7-6
2010: 6-7
2011: 5-7
2012: 5-7
2013: 5-7
2014: 7-6
2015: 9-4
2016 : 8-4

I'm sure our next new coach from the sun belt will have us to 11 wins in no time!

This is true but Butch really ruined our chances of having a fantastic 2016 season. We should have easily won the SEC East and went 10-2 overall. What's the excuse for not accomplishing those goals? It's not like he didn't have a damn thing to work with. I think it's finally gotten to our fan's heads that we're tired of sitting around waiting for these diamond in the rough type of coaches to work some magic while Bama, Michigan, Ohio St., continues to win championships with already proven top tier coaches. You pay big money, you get great results. That's something our administration never could get through their thick skulls.

 

[Volstylexx]

The fact is UT is a historically top level football program, just outside of the top 5 or so "elite" tier. It's time to stop eating **** and liking it or we may not be able to change the culture back to what it was.

We, TN fans, think TN is an elite program. The statistics, objectively, suggest TN is a historically average team with a few really good runs.

1 national championship in the last half century and 2 sec championships in the same time (18 and 19 years ago respectively). So what exactly is the culture you're wanting to return to?

 

[AllVolForLife_16]

If Butch leaves, that's exactly where we'll be for the next 10 years. Because I don't know of any coach that can come in and get the imbecile's what they want in the 1st to the 4th years. And, I don't have any confidence in the people hiring the next coach....

So, please, celebrate getting rid of a 9-4 coach, for someone that can't do the job the present coach is doing.

Thank you guys for making it absolutely unbearable to be on volnation right now. What we need is a little more negativity. So, carry on.

Dooley was seriously so bad that it has caused a large portion of this fanbase to be content with mediocrity when we were set up for greatness this season. It's sad. This is a proud program and Jones has hit his ceiling. If Butch leaves it will be a blessing in disguise as long as we hire the right AD for the job, David Blackburn.

 

[TheSpartan]

We, TN fans, think TN is an elite program. The statistics, objectively, suggest TN is a historically average team with a few really good runs.

1 national championship in the last half century and 2 sec championships in the same time (18 and 19 years ago respectively). So what exactly is the culture you're wanting to return to?

The culture where we expect to compete for championships, win them with some regularity, and not regularly lose to SEC bottom feeders we historically OWN.

 

[AllVolForLife_16]

I don't want to go back to 5-7 every season, but I don't want to lose to Vandy again in the next 30 years either. Firing a winning coach is very risky business, just ask Nebraska or Georgia.

Butch is our coach, I just hope he can turn it around and win a SEC title at UT in the very near future.

He won't because he couldn't even win the East with the most talented team he's ever had in his career as a coach. Some people are cut out for this league. Lyle Jones is not.

 

[Volstylexx]

This is true but Butch really ruined our chances of having a fantastic 2016 season. We should have easily won the SEC East and went 10-2 overall. What's the excuse for not accomplishing those goals? It's not like he didn't have a damn thing to work with. I think it's finally gotten to our fan's heads that we're tired of sitting around waiting for these diamond in the rough type of coaches to work some magic while Bama, Michigan, Ohio St., continues to win championships with already proven top tier coaches. You pay big money, you get great results. That's something our administration never could get through their thick skulls.

We should have easily won the SEC east many times in our storied history, but like this year we didn't. Michigan, btw, hasn't been relevant since roughly the last time we were. Last I checked, they weren't playing for their conference championship either.

 

[Eddie Vol Halen]

Right now I expect the over/under for Vols Team 121 to be 6.5

Difficult to lose as much production as we will, look at next year's schedule, and see more than 7 wins. It is easy to see a 5 - 7 season though if we lose one or two we shouldn't as we have every year under BSiA.

With the super legacy class Team 120 was our best shot but sleepwalking through the first half caught us at TAMU and the wheels fell off. The glaring issue is Shoop created Top 10 defenses with our 3rd string talent but cant make a Top 100 defense with Derek Barnett. That's a problem of epic magnitude.

We have two chances at relevance. Butch and the BSiA got this and we are a year behind a la 1998 or Blackburn gets Gruden.

 

[VolFreakJosh]

We should have easily won the SEC east many times in our storied history, but like this year we didn't. Michigan, btw, hasn't been relevant since roughly the last time we were. Last I checked, they weren't playing for their conference championship either.

Harbaugh is having way more success than Butch has had at Tennessee. Butch ain't even close to Harbaugh's level.

 

[Volstylexx]

The culture where we expect to compete for championships, win them with some regularity, and not regularly lose to SEC bottom feeders we historically OWN.

We've not in the last half century regularly competed for championships, much less win them with any regularity.

Hey, I get it. We want to compete for championships and we want to win them, but don't let your passion for TN cloud the reality of the historical facts surrounding UT football.

 

[Volstylexx]

Harbaugh is having way more success than Butch has had at Tennessee. Butch ain't even close to Harbaugh's level.

And what does Michigan have to show for it? 0 appearances in their conference's chmapionship game, 0 wins against their hated rival, and 0 national championships. By Volnations own standards- he has achieved nothing.

 

[gunner]

The fact is UT is a historically top level football program, just outside of the top 5 or so "elite" tier. It's time to stop eating **** and liking it or we may not be able to change the culture back to what it was.

UT has NOT been a consistent elite program since the Neyland days with the exception of 95-98 when UT went 45-5 with culmination of winning the first BCS Title in 1998.

When many in the Knoxville media understand that and stop stirring up the fan base this will be a much easier job for our head coach.

 

[TheSpartan]

UT has NOT been a consistent elite program since the Neyland days with the exception of 95-98 when UT went 45-5 with culmination of winning the first BCS Title in 1998.

When many in the Knoxville media understand that and stop stirring up the fan base this will be a much easier job for our head coach.

I like how you clearly didn't read a word I said.

 

[Vol_is_Lyfe18]

He's just stating the facts.

2008: 5-7
2009: 7-6
2010: 6-7
2011: 5-7
2012: 5-7
2013: 5-7
2014: 7-6
2015: 9-4
2016 : 8-4

I'm sure our next new coach from the sun belt will have us to 11 wins in no time!

This shows me that Fulmer flamed out, we hired someone who was at the time a kid, then replaced him with an idiot, and finally ended up with a cheerleader.

I'm not trying to discredit Butch. He's the perfect guy to dig you out of a hole and get you back on the right track.

But to be honest, he's a cheerleader.

 

[Volstylexx]

UT has NOT been a consistent elite program since the Neyland days with the exception of 95-98 when UT went 45-5 with culmination of winning the first BCS Title in 1998.

When many in the Knoxville media understand that and stop stirring up the fan base this will be a much easier job for our head coach.

People act like we're a powerhouse. We've won 10 games or more in a season only 14 times in the last 50 years. We've won 11 games only 6 times in a season in the last 50 years.

If you remove the period of dominance from 95-99, outside that period we only won 11 games on 3 occasions: 1970, 1989, and 2001.

 

[gunner]

I like how you clearly didn't read a word I said.

I like how you did NOT understand anything that I said.

But, I'm certainly not surprised judging from your previous post.

 

[TheSpartan]

People act like we're a powerhouse. We've won 10 games or more in a season only 14 times in the last 50 years. We've won 11 games only 6 times in a season in the last 50 years.

If you remove the period of dominance from 95-99, outside that period we only won 11 games on 3 occasions: 1970, 1989, and 2001.

You can't just flatly compare statistics across different era like that.

11 games used to be 12 games because of added cupcake. Bowls also used to be a much more prestigious deal. The NCAA landscape has not always been the same.

Tennessee is one of the top 10-15 programs in the country and it's not debatable.

The so called "Sunshine Pumpers" are nothing more than millennial scum who want to drag us down to their level.

 

[gunner]

People act like we're a powerhouse. We've won 10 games or more in a season only 14 times in the last 50 years. We've won 11 games only 6 times in a season in the last 50 years.

If you remove the period of dominance from 95-99, outside that period we only won 11 games on 3 occasions: 1970, 1989, and 2001.

Finally, someone gets it. Thanks for posting the facts for all to read.

 

[TheSpartan]

Finally, someone gets it. Thank for posting the facts for all to read.

It's a very deceptive 'fact' because you can not flatly compare statistics across different eras all willy nilly.