4 VOL Quarterbacks Ready to Compete for the Job

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1vol8 said:
He told Weinke that as well and even put it in those terms. Not their fault for assuming he meant it at face value. But no, that’s not completely true.
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Gotcha. Anyways, I wouldn’t mind seeing Maurer if his decision making is fixed and he can stay Healthy. Kid can throw the ball and isn’t afraid to throw the ball.

Harrison has the decision making on Maurer right now and probably a slight bit more touch on his passes.

If Maurer can get the mental stuff down it will be a really good QB competition.
 
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cHiZzLeVOL said:
Gotcha. Anyways, I wouldn’t mind seeing Maurer if his decision making is fixed and he can stay Healthy. Kid can throw the ball and isn’t afraid to throw the ball.

Harrison has the decision making on Maurer right now and probably a slight bit more touch on his passes.

If Maurer can get the mental stuff down it will be a really good QB competition.
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That’s what I’ve been saying all along. Fix Brian’s decision making (which will get better with time) and I don’t see a qb that has the complete tool package he has.
 
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1vol8 said:
This argument is getting tired. Who’s to say he can’t read defense? He made two mistakes in the MSST game that warranted that claim. He never blatantly put the ball in harms way vs UGA, Alabama or UK but somehow those TWO vs MSST are the catalyst of such a premature determination. Otherwise those that claim such a thing are referring to games he was thrown in cold and unprepared. Name a game where ANY of us seen him so much as warming up his arm on the sidelines BEFORE he came into the game. If you can’t name a game, you’ve never seen it. And I bet you can’t name one because it never happened. #coachingmalpractice, not player shortcomings.
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I’m not going to use the same ole same ole TIRED reading comprehension line, but WHERE did I say Maurer couldn’t read defenses? I’m saying WHOEVER wins the competition will be better than others in that aspect. Speaking of TIRED, give me a break on this “prepared to play” bs you keep trotting out with Maurer! No backup gets a majority of starter snaps in practice, so you have to bring what you got when given the opportunity. Same happened with Bailey and Shrout and we saw who played the most after JG was benched. He’ll be schooled better with this staff imo but if he doesn’t win the starting spot (and doesn’t transfer), then he needs to do better than he has in the past to be next man up.
 
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sjt18 said:
I think he was a different player after coming back. I have a few thoughts on why... but nothing concrete.

I think he will benefit maybe more than anyone from a new HC and new start. But decision making is going to be the separator IMO. He has to get better or he won't play.
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Allz I’m really saying.
 
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1vol8 said:
Try and keep up Butchna. You’re NOT looking at the “play”. You’re looking deeper than the surface. If you want to know where the Aaron Rodgers comparison comes from, do the work instead of criticizing me for doing it. Footwork, delivery, arm strength, platform, trajectory, ball placement, internal clock. I can go on and on but I think you should get the point. It’s his overall playing style and ability.
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It’s hyperbole on your part. Makes me doubt all of your points.
 
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butchna said:
Allz I’m really saying.
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Some of those throws Maurer made it was like holy crap this kid is going to be really good. Then he would get to the red zone and turn into a turnover machine.

Then after that concussion he got his mental processing went downhill.

If that would of never happened I think he would of been the starter last year. Just off of pure potential. Hopefully this new staff makes all of our QBs better.
 
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cHiZzLeVOL said:
Some of those throws Maurer made it was like holy crap this kid is going to be really good. Then he would get to the red zone and turn into a turnover machine.

Then after that concussion he got his mental processing went downhill.

If that would of never happened I think he would of been the starter last year. Just off of pure potential. Hopefully this new staff makes all of our QBs better.
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Agreed. Helps to be fans without a personal stake in the outcome.
 
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It's Bailey. And it's always been Bailey.

There's always value in being a dual threat, but Hooker and Maurer are so far behind Bailey in terms of just QB fundamentals it really isn't going to matter.

And obviously whatever slim chance Salter had of winning the job is over now.
 
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butchna said:
Course you don’t.
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Hooker isn’t as fast and doesn’t seem like a qb that will beat you from the pocket alone.

Bailey isn’t as mobile and possibly lacks deep accuracy. (Don’t say timing because the same is true for every qb and Maurer hit Calloway and Keaton in stride with the same amount of opportunity going in)

Salter (if not suspended) lacks size and evidently off the field leadership. Say what you will, I’m withholding judgment but will stand by my opinion that true leaders don’t put themselves in positions to have to explain even IF he was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Furthermore, he’ll need to adjust his mechanics to make up for his size. That half sidearm delivery isn’t going to cut it over 6’5 O and D lineman from the pocket. JMO
 
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1vol8 said:
You have eyes. Use them. If you’re unwilling to do so then your criticism of my comparison is unwarranted and uninformed.
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You assume I haven’t. That’s another failure and dismissal on your part. I see incomplete potential...like the other candidates. He’ll be evaluated by those with a final say and no dogs in the hunt.
 
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butchna said:
You assume I haven’t. That’s another failure and dismissal on your part. I see incomplete potential...like the other candidates. He’ll be evaluated by those with a final say and no dogs in the hunt.
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Your constant mocking me tells me you haven’t and if you have, you were not watching for the same things.
 
#90
#90
The difference between those who out play UT at QB is a combination of maturity, making throws, avoiding sacks, not turning the ball over, leading the team to score, better coaching, better protection and better options to hand the ball off to. I’m hoping we win most of our games this year and willing to give new staff a chance and current players a second and third chance. “Rocky Top” a perfect description of the current status of our hot ball program. If one of the four QBs was that good, I would think their play would keep them in the #1 slot.
 
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1vol8 said:
Hooker isn’t as fast and doesn’t seem like a qb that will beat you from the pocket alone.

Bailey isn’t as mobile and possibly lacks deep accuracy. (Don’t say timing because the same is true for every qb and Maurer hit Calloway and Keaton in stride with the same amount of opportunity going in)

Salter (if not suspended) lacks size and evidently off the field leadership. Say what you will, I’m withholding judgment but will stand by my opinion that true leaders don’t put themselves in positions to have to explain even IF he was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Furthermore, he’ll need to adjust his mechanics to make up for his size. That half sidearm delivery isn’t going to cut it over 6’5 O and D lineman from the pocket. JMO
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You still living in the first half against UGA two seasons ago?..hope Maurer isn’t. Aaron Rodgers adjust to opponents adjustments to him over multiple SEASONS. So you’re on record that Maurer is faster than Hooker and also a superior pocket passer? That had to take a lot out of you. 😏

Kids can make bad life decisions. It’s what you do AFTER that meets the mark. Maurer prolly wants some of his back that we aren’t even aware exists...if he’s human.
 
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1vol8 said:
Your constant mocking me tells me you haven’t and if you have, you were not watching for the same things.
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I mock you because you’re a promotional sideshow who still insists he’s objective. I’ve judged HIM by what I’ve seen SO FAR on the field. Like all the other candidates, he needs work and finishing. He has no advantage presently.
 
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butchna said:
You still living in the first half against UGA two seasons ago?..hope Maurer isn’t. Aaron Rodgers adjust to opponents adjustments to him over multiple SEASONS. So you’re on record that Maurer is faster than Hooker and also a superior pocket passer? That had to take a lot out of you. 😏

Kids can make bad life decisions. It’s what you do AFTER that meets the mark. Maurer prolly wants some of his back that we aren’t even aware exists...if he’s human.
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I’m saying Maurer has proven to be ABLE to beat SEC opponents from the pocket OR outside the pocket. No other candidate has.
 
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1vol8 said:
I’m saying Maurer has proven to be ABLE to beat SEC opponents from the pocket OR outside the pocket. No other candidate has.
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Cite an example of this “outside the pocket”. Doesn’t he have only ONE win on his docket? So it would’ve had to be Mississippi State. Where should I look for the highlights of him outrunning Hooker?
 
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1vol8 said:
I’m saying Maurer has proven to be ABLE to beat SEC opponents from the pocket OR outside the pocket. No other candidate has.
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I mean Bailey proved he can pick apart teams from the pocket if he has the protection.

That being said Maurer does have better speed than all the QBs and can get big yards on guys if he has to, however, he is injury prone when he does this.
 
#96
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butchna said:
Cite an example of this “outside the pocket”. Doesn’t he have only ONE win on his docket? So it would’ve had to be Mississippi State. Where should I look for the highlights of him outrunning Hooker?
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In fairness Maurer posted a 4.5 - 40 time and Hooker a 4.67 - 40 time but Hooker also has about 20lbs on Maurer so..... he can actually break tackles
 
#97
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butchna said:
I mock you because you’re a promotional sideshow who still insists he’s objective. I’ve judged HIM by what I’ve seen SO FAR on the field. Like all the other candidates, he needs work and finishing. He has no advantage presently.
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That I can agree with but now we’re talking two separate issues
 
#98
#98
1vol8 said:
That I can agree with but now we’re talking two separate issues
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Not really. Only ISSUE for me is who’s starting at QB against Bowling Green. Everything I posit goes towards that end goal. What NFL legend Maurer was cloned from is your baby.
 
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butchna said:
Cite an example of this “outside the pocket”. Doesn’t he have only ONE win on his docket? So it would’ve had to be Mississippi State. Where should I look for the highlights of him outrunning Hooker?
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Beating a team in a win from a pocket or otherwise isn’t what I’m referring to. He beat UGA from the pocket but it didn’t result in a win. He beat MSST from the pocket and outside the pocket. He beat Alabama from the pocket and UK from both. When I say “beat” I mean on a play by play basis of success. Not the end result.
 
#100
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cHiZzLeVOL said:
I mean Bailey proved he can pick apart teams from the pocket if he has the protection.

That being said Maurer does have better speed than all the QBs and can get big yards on guys if he has to, however, he is injury prone when he does this.
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That’s fair to assume but truth is you’re referring to ONE injury. He was never injured from running outside of landing on his head. That injury lingered because it was mismanaged by the coaching staff (Pruitt). So I’m not ready to assume he’s become injury prone over that. I call that an unfortunate situation that could have been handled differently.
 
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