3rd and Chavis becomes 3rd and Wilcox

#51
#51
KCVol14 said:
When Wilcox has the players Chavis had, and we still give up 3rd & long, then you will have a point. I thought Wilcox's game plan was spot on, we played to not give up long plays..... and to keep the score close into the 4th Qtr when anything can happen.

The fact is we don't have the players or depth to play all out blitzing defense against a team of Florida's capabilities
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First :)
 
#52
#52
GAVol said:
How many long TD's did we give up?

It just is what it is. I'm sure he'd love to be playing man coverage with lots of blitzes, but we just don't have the horses.
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I can't argue about the horses part... I'm not bashing by any means as I said I love having Wilcox... I was just saying that is gave me flashbacks to teams converting 3rd down after 3rd down in us...I do think you are right though.. I'm just saying our 3rd down calls didn't work, may have said it wrong though...
 
#54
#54
yep cause Boise always had more horses than their opponents..
that argument is weak.

bottom line...boys fought hard.
3rd down play calls were NOT GOOD>
 
#57
#57
Wilcox had another brilliant game plan in this one. Execution was lacking, but can't fault Wilcox's coaching.
 
#58
#58
I love the reasoning though.

Wilcox does an outstanding job as the D-Coordinator at Boise, with what many are saying was less talent. He can't do any wrong.

He comes here, plays 2 top ten teams in Oregon and Florida, who has better players and depth, gives up some points, and he is an idiot.
 
#59
#59
It looked like Chavis was back on the field calling the defense on those 3rd downs. No excuse for letting them convert on that many 3rd and longs. We had a ton of opportunities to win this game.
 
#60
#60
I haven't checked this anywhere else, but Clay Travis is saying in his Fanhouse column that Florida had 3rd and 7 or more on 7 different occasions today, and converted on all 7 of them. I'm willing to give Wilcox a full three years to evaluate him, and loved it when we got him from Boise, but that is objectively unacceptable.
 
#61
#61
head1 said:
You cant be aggressive and blitz when you have horrible corner backs. You have to have at least decent ones who can break up a pass instead of getting their 2 seconds late.
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With the exception of Art "toast" Evans our corners are far from horrible; but ... with horrible corners you HAVE to be aggressive and blitz, because the only way they won't get beat is if the QB is on his back. Having more LBs in coverage (or DE for that matter) won't help the corners cover their men.
 
#62
#62
Dudley Smith said:
I haven't checked this anywhere else, but Clay Travis is saying in his Fanhouse column that Florida had 3rd and 7 or more on 7 different occasions today, and converted on all 7 of them. I'm willing to give Wilcox a full three years to evaluate him, and loved it when we got him from Boise, but that is objectively unacceptable.
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We sacked them on one of those.
 
#63
#63
papatomany said:
With the exception of Art "toast" Evans our corners are far from horrible; but ... with horrible corners you HAVE to be aggressive and blitz, because the only way they won't get beat is if the QB is on his back. Having more LBs in coverage (or DE for that matter) won't help the corners cover their men.
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Well, with Florida more than any other team (other than Oregon) you have to respect the dump-off pass to any of their stable of track star RBs.

You might stop them 7 or 8 times out of 10... but those 2 or 3 times you don't? They'll gash you. Our LBs are good, in my opinion, but they can't cover Demps, Gillislee or Moody one-on-one.

As bad as it was I think it's indicative of the situation over the scheme at this point.
 
#64
#64
1st
3rd 15 complete to Demps for 16.

2nd
3rd 6 complete to Clark for 7.
3rd 8 incomplete.

3rd
3rd 3 complete to Demps for 7.
3rd 7 incomplete.
3rd 6 incomplete.
3rd 8 compete to Moore for 14.
3rd Goal (7) for TD

4th
3rd 9 complete to Moore for 12.
3rd 8 complete to Thompson for 8.
3rd 9 sacked.

Looks like:

A) Clay Travis is wrong or ESPN's play-by-play is wrong

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B) The Defense got worn out as the Offense provided little rest for them against a very fast Florida offense.
 
#65
#65
converting 7/11 on 3rd and long is still not very good. Need to stop them on third and long alot better than that. Also our offense has to do a lot better at actually picking up 3rd down conversion. Once the two problems get resolved, hopefully this year maybe later, and they keep playing with heart and intensity Tennessee will back.
 
#66
#66
BALLERVOL1221 said:
converting 7/11 on 3rd and long is still not very good. Need to stop them on third and long alot better than that. Also our offense has to do a lot better at actually picking up 3rd down conversion. Once the two problems get resolved, hopefully this year maybe later, and they keep playing with heart and intensity Tennessee will back.
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Don't know where you're getting that number (unless you're counting 3rd and 3 as long), but we do need to stop them better on 3rd and long. If you take out the play where Pouncey just snapped it 10 yards behind Brantley, they were 6/8 on 3rd and 8+. Needs to be resolved.
 
#68
#68
Outdors21 said:
Scheme is fine. Players are morons. Evans and Waggner shouldn't be playing...Myles and Oliver should be.

Oh well...
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I'd love to see you go in there to a defensive meeting and say that. I would agree if you would have said that they are not as talented as Florida, which would be true, but to say what you said is even more moronic than calling the players what you did.
 
#69
#69
HATINGBAMAISAWAYOFLIFE said:
If you take out the play where Pouncey just snapped it 10 yards behind Brantley, they were 6/8 on 3rd and 8+. Needs to be resolved.

POINT PROVEN
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When you have a team that can beat you deep almost everytime you line up on the LOS, you have to keep them in front of you. It's speed killing 101. If not, you going to piss and moan about getting beat deep, which we didn't do all day yesterday.
 
#70
#70
g8terh8ter_eric said:
When you have a team that can beat you deep almost everytime you line up on the LOS, you have to keep them in front of you. It's speed killing 101. If not, you going to piss and moan about getting beat deep, which we didn't do all day yesterday.
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Exactly
 
#72
#72
i know that Florida has more speed than UT but you still have to stop them on 3rd down. I haven't seen Florida go long all year. I would take a long touchdown over a 12 play drive in which you stop them on 1st and 2nd down, and then give up 9 or 10 yards and they score a touchdown anyway.
 
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#73
#73
BALLERVOL1221 said:
i know that Florida has more speed than UT but you still have to stop them on 3rd down. I haven't seen Florida go long all year. I would take a long touchdown over a 12 play drive in which you stop them on 1st and 2nd down, and then give up 9 or 10 yards.
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Let me ask you this then...

If our CBs, which are no where near as fast as Florida's WR's, come up to jam at the line, and then they get beat horribly for a TD, are you going to still complain. If the answer is yes, you should probably pickup a book on coaching against speed like Florida's. If you have the speed to lock up with those guys and jam them, then you can do that. Otherwise, your going to be made to look like a fool as a DC.
 
#75
#75
u had NO DTACKLES AFTER MONTORI GOT HURT!!!! and nick reviez and austin johnson are your starting linebackers for gods sake!!!!!! no talent!!!!!!
 
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