3-4 or a 4-3 Defense?

Should Chavis use a 3-4 or a 4-3 defense next season?

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Chavis is studying a 3-4 defense for next season. Depth wise on paper it looks a lot better:

DE-Mitchell
---Fisher
DT-Mapu
---Bolden
DE-Reynolds
---Ayer

OLB-Karl
----Myers-White
ILB-Mayo
ILB-McCoy
----Wilson
OLB-Martin
----Donald

It seems to get the best athletes on the field.
 
#2
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If they were going to a 3-4 Andre Mathis would not have been moved from linebacker to defensive end
 
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#5
McCoy is listed on the dpeth chart as a middle LB and Fisher was a DE in JC and was recruited at UT originally as a DE.
 
#7
#7
i wish we had a stud DT.. i would love to run a 3-4 with our talent at LB.. We would no doubt have the fastest defense in the SEC..
 
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oklavol said:
McCoy is listed on the dpeth chart as a middle LB and Fisher was a DE in JC and was recruited at UT originally as a DE.
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Yes, but DE in a 34 and DE in a 43 are completely different things. At 260 he's probably a little light to play up front in a 34 and would be forced to stand up and play LB.
 
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GAVol said:
Yes, but DE in a 34 and DE in a 43 are completely different things. At 260 he's probably a little light to play up front in a 34 and would be forced to stand up and play LB.
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He was listed as a back-up DT because of the depth problems at DT this year. Most of UT's DL is a little undersized to begin. Bolden at 6'6 is probably the biggest player.
 
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We have the LBs and DEs to play 3-4, but as noted, we don't have a true NT. That is the reason why the 3-4 isn't as common in the NCAA as in the NFL.
 
#13
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I do think that in a year or two, with conditioning, that William Brimfield could be that NT. The main problem is that Melancon and Langley are NT types.
 
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I find it interesting that I brought up this subject after signing day and I was blasted on the board. Although noted that we dont have a true NT, we could definately make up for it with speed and quickness at linebacker as well as excellent blitz packages and stunts.
 
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Dawson said:
I find it interesting that I brought up this subject after signing day and I was blasted on the board. Although noted that we dont have a true NT, we could definately make up for it with speed and quickness at linebacker as well as excellent blitz packages and stunts.
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I don't expect see a 3-4 regularly. I think convro about whether we will run it is dumb. Because we cannot stop the run already, a move to the 3-4 would be hazardous. I don't like the idea of guards going against our linebackers.

I would like it, and expect it, on 3rd downs.
 
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Dawson said:
I find it interesting that I brought up this subject after signing day and I was blasted on the board. Although noted that we dont have a true NT, we could definately make up for it with speed and quickness at linebacker as well as excellent blitz packages and stunts.
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you really did get blasted that time :birgits_giggle:
 
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The Dude said:
I don't expect see a 3-4 regularly. I think convro about whether we will run it is dumb. Because we cannot stop the run already, a move to the 3-4 would be hazardous. I don't like the idea of guards going against our linebackers.

I would like it, and expect it, on 3rd downs.
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It would be a nice ripple to have to in your arsenal.
 
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Dawson said:
I find it interesting that I brought up this subject after signing day and I was blasted on the board. Although noted that we dont have a true NT, we could definately make up for it with speed and quickness at linebacker as well as excellent blitz packages and stunts.
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I don't think I was in the conversation, but if I had been, I wouldn't have blasted you on a 3-4 idea. I would blast you though when you said "Tennessee usually runs a zone blitz," which is 100000000% wrong.
 
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VolinArizona said:
I don't think I was in the conversation, but if I had been, I wouldn't have blasted you on a 3-4 idea. I would blast you though when you said "Tennessee usually runs a zone blitz," which is 100000000% wrong.
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Very rarely does one see UT run a zone blitz
 
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VolinArizona said:
Exactly. I actually wish we did it more. I think we have the athletic DEs to run it on a more consistent basis, but I don't think very many teams run it "usually." I think it's a wrinkle.
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It is because it's hard to execute correctly or have the athletes to do it
 
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Dawson said:
I find it interesting that I brought up this subject after signing day and I was blasted on the board.
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I respectfully disagree . . . I just read back through the thread. That was about as civil as it gets around here.
 
#23
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VolinArizona said:
Exactly. I actually wish we did it more. I think we have the athletic DEs to run it on a more consistent basis, but I don't think very many teams run it "usually." I think it's a wrinkle.
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Zone blitzes arent always run with a DE going to the flat. We have run man on one side with a zone on the blitz side many times. With zone coverage to the hot side, the DBs or LBs are facing the QB rather than turning and running. UT has run a Zone blitz many time in the past although it has usually been on third down.
 
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Dawson said:
Zone blitzes arent always run with a DE going to the flat. We have run man on one side with a zone on the blitz side many times. With zone coverage to the hot side, the DBs or LBs are facing the QB rather than turning and running. UT has run a Zone blitz many time in the past although it has usually been on third down.
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A few things:

1. UT hasn't run many zone blitzes, and you won't agree with me because I have no examples mostly because they don't do it very much.

2. You said "usually." Running it every now and then on 3rd down is about what I would say they do - not "usually."
 
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