2025 Transfer Portal Thread

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MoCo_Vol said:
That's the 10 players on the roster, continuing to repeat yourself to say it's not enough shooting doesn't change anything....Idk why that's so hard to comprehend?
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Who said it changes anything? Lmfao it’s still a fact we don’t have enough shooting currently, and if you believe otherwise you’re delusional 👍🏼
 
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We lose ZZ, Chaz, and Gainey

If you think adding Gillespie and Ament or relying on Evans and Henderson is enough in the scoring/3pt shooting department, then i can’t help you
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
Explain what the bold means...

It seems you're basing that on what their stats are in college only. Because Ament, Henderson, even Evans are all good shooters.
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You don’t want three decent shooters on the ROSTER; you want 4 decent shooters on the FLOOR at ALL times.

In the NBA it’s 5 nowadays—you just don’t play a player that can’t shoot. Like at all.

In college you can get away with 4 still. If you only have 3 (ON THE FLOOR, not the bench) you are going to get slogged down into mud ball.

Now, if you want to be an OK top 25 team that doesn’t contend, then 2-3 shooters/scorers plus a great defense will be fine. But if you want to contend for a FF, you are going to want 4 shooters on the floor most of the time.

Gillespie and Ament can shoot. Okpara cannot.

We are basically assuming RB can find a way to get some shooting or post scoring out of the PF position. That’s 3 shooters on the floor.

To contend we need the last starter to be a shooting/scoring threat.

Doesn’t mean Lanier’s level or Knecht’s or Lofton’s. Gainey’s level or zz’s would also be fine, as long as it’s a threat to shoot or score.
 
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Ghost of Archvol said:
Some players are intense competitors on the court and occasionally pop their jersey, punch a phone, etc. I guarantee if he dons the orange you’ll learn to love him. 😉
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So, you guarantee that I will learn to love him? Are you serious? That is a really ignorant statement you made. Very arrogant.
 
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StepCross said:
You don’t want three decent shooters on the ROSTER; you want 4 decent shooters on the FLOOR at ALL times.

In the NBA it’s 5 nowadays—you just don’t play a player that can’t shoot. Like at all.

In college you can get away with 4 still. If you only have 3 (ON THE FLOOR, not the bench) you are going to get slogged down into mud ball.

Now, if you want to be an OK top 25 team that doesn’t contend, then 2-3 shooters/scorers plus a great defense will be fine. But if you want to contend for a FF, you are going to want 4 shooters on the floor most of the time.

Gillespie and Ament can shoot. Okpara cannot.

We are basically assuming RB can find a way to get some shooting or post scoring out of the PF position. That’s 3 shooters on the floor.

To contend we need the last starter to be a shooting/scoring threat.

Doesn’t mean Lanier’s level or Knecht’s or Lofton’s. Gainey’s level or zz’s would also be fine, as long as it’s a threat to shoot or score.
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Couldn’t agree more
 
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CamVol8 said:
Who said it changes anything? Lmfao it’s still a fact we don’t have enough shooting currently, and if you believe otherwise you’re delusional 👍🏼
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Why all the attitude man? I just stated who we had on the team and you took that to chime in for about the 20th time to say the same damn thing you've already said.

"enough shooting" is as vague a statement as can be made.

Chaz shot 39.5%
ZZ shot 32%
Igor shot 31%
Gainey 30%

Ja'Kobi will be shooting over 32%, Ament will be shooting over 30% (if he's really a lottery pick player), Evans will be more than capable of shooting 30% and even Bishop can reach that level...

We were ranked 113th in 3 point attempts last year and over 30% of those came from ONE player...just let Slick Rick cook, the next 3 spots will be for shooters and wing players.
 
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StepCross said:
You don’t want three decent shooters on the ROSTER; you want 4 decent shooters on the FLOOR at ALL times.

In the NBA it’s 5 nowadays—you just don’t play a player that can’t shoot. Like at all.

In college you can get away with 4 still. If you only have 3 (ON THE FLOOR, not the bench) you are going to get slogged down into mud ball.

Now, if you want to be an OK top 25 team that doesn’t contend, then 2-3 shooters/scorers plus a great defense will be fine. But if you want to contend for a FF, you are going to want 4 shooters on the floor most of the time.

Gillespie and Ament can shoot. Okpara cannot.

We are basically assuming RB can find a way to get some shooting or post scoring out of the PF position. That’s 3 shooters on the floor.

To contend we need the last starter to be a shooting/scoring threat.

Doesn’t mean Lanier’s level or Knecht’s or Lofton’s. Gainey’s level or zz’s would also be fine, as long as it’s a threat to shoot or score.
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This is so spot on. Many people don't realize how the game is trending towards this, and it is a MUST to win. Hopefully, we can see that with this roster
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
Boy, the vibes around here sure took a nosedive just a few days after landing the highest rated recruit in Tennessee basketball history lol.
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Seems the bulk of our fanbase just likes to move from one crisis to the next...

We've got 10 on scholarship, that is +1 better than the Elite Eight team we just had... and the staff has been going after shooters constantly so we will see who they end up landing when the dust settles.
 
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Vol49er said:
And the year before his team lost in the first round bc he couldn’t contain his emotions
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I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that Auburn should've been able to beat Yale regardless of losing him early, Auburn was favored by more in that game than CBM averaged per game. Especially hard to lay it all on him since Auburn led 68-58 with 7 minutes to go.
 
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VolArmy74 said:
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that Auburn should've been able to beat Yale regardless of losing him early, Auburn was favored by more in that game than CBM averaged per game. Especially hard to lay it all on him since Auburn led 68-58 with 7 minutes to go.
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None of that even challenges the idea that Auburn almost certainly wins the game if CBM contains his emotions
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
Boy, the vibes around here sure took a nosedive just a few days after landing the highest rated recruit in Tennessee basketball history lol.
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Coming from those who see the glass half empty. Everyone doing SEC videos see the Vols as easily a top 6 sec team & top 20 overall team in the country right now.
These are from people who don't even root for the Vols, unbiased takes. They Love our Frontcourt as well! But galf the board here from Vol fans seems to think our frontcourt is less than impressive right now.
Half this board doesn't seem to see any value in these 4 guys either - Boswell, Troy, Amari & DeWayne. A lot of people on here just sad & miserable talking about the guys our coaches wanted as Vols.
Nothing is good enough for you.
Those same people who see us as SEC contenders & a top 20 team right now also believe that once we land a shooting guard & maybe another bench piece that could put us in national championship contender talks, not just SEC contenders.
The biggest enemy of Vols Athletics is not the media or other SEC fanbases - it's The Vol Fanbase.
Right now we are in a fight for Darius Adams that Coach Rod Clark confirmed with me. Let's hope we can get his commitment over MSU. But I'm sure if we get another McDonald's all American half of the board would say he's not experienced, he's skinny, he won't be able to handle the SEC, we need to do better, we need this or that (not what we got) lol it's childish. This story is called:

"The Cup Is NOT Half Empty"

🙏 Amen-t
 
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One player you guys could look at would be Simeon Wilcher, one of the first guys off the bench for this year's St John's team. He will have 2 years of eligibility remaining. Known as a shooter, he only shot 29.7% from 3 this year but is more than capable of getting back to the 41% he shot as a freshman. He is 6'4 with long arms, and like all of Pitino's players, knows how to play pressure defense. I've heard UNC is in the lead for him, but not sure why Tennessee wouldn't be interested now that Rice chose USC. I really like Wilcher's game.

Simeon Wilcher College Stats | College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com
 
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Vol49er said:
None of that even challenges the idea that Auburn almost certainly wins the game if CBM contains his emotions
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You never know, since you say he hurts his team constantly, maybe they lose by 25 with him playing. It's hard to argue that he kills his team when he plays and that he kills his team when he doesn't.
 
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VolHoopsInTheMix said:
Coming from those who see the glass half empty. Everyone doing SEC videos see the Vols as easily a top 6 sec team & top 20 overall team in the country right now.
These are from people who don't even root for the Vols, unbiased takes. They Love our Frontcourt as well! But galf the board here from Vol fans seems to think our frontcourt is less than impressive right now.
Half this board doesn't seem to see any value in these 4 guys either - Boswell, Troy, Amari & DeWayne. A lot of people on here just sad & miserable talking about the guys our coaches wanted as Vols.
Nothing is good enough for you.
Those same people who see us as SEC contenders & a top 20 team right now also believe that once we land a shooting guard & maybe another bench piece that could put us in national championship contender talks, not just SEC contenders.
The biggest enemy of Vols Athletics is not the media or other SEC fanbases - it's The Vol Fanbase.
Right now we are in a fight for Darius Adams that Coach Rod Clark confirmed with me. Let's hope we can get his commitment over MSU. But I'm sure if we get another McDonald's all American half of the board would say he's not experienced, he's skinny, he won't be able to handle the SEC, we need to do better, we need this or that (not what we got) lol it's childish. This story is called:

"The Cup Is NOT Half Empty"

🙏 Amen-t
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Always stay Halfull!
 
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CatFan4Life! said:
Travis Perry is an excellent player and is an ELITE shooter. He was not put in a good situation this year at Kentucky. First, the jump from HS ball to College is difficult for a non-athlete. You have to adjust your game rather than rely on innate athleticism. So I knew the learning curve would be high for Perry. Second, he had to play out of position as a PG due to injuries on UK's roster. We literally were down our top 4 PG options at one point in the season. Perry is not a PG. What he is good at is shooting. We do know that from HS, from AAU, and from practice. He is an ELITE shooter. But that's on spot-up 3 pointers. Think catch and shoot.

Third, his defense is not good right now as he had to guard the other team's quickest player usually, but it didn't help being on a Kentucky team that was not very athletic themselves other than Oweh. When you have athletic teammates, who are good on defense, and have rim protection, getting beat off the dribble suddenly doesn't look so bad on you. Your flaws get "covered up" by your teammates. Kentucky did not have a good defensive scheme until late in the year, weren't very athletic, and didn't have a lot of rim protection. Therefore, each time someone (like Perry) got beat off the dribble, his man had a lay-up or dunk, making it very clearer to the observer that you aren't very good on defense. Finally, Perry's role and minutes were inconsistent. As a shooter, you need to play to get into a routine and rhythm. Injuries may force him to play 20 MPG at the point one game, and then come off the bench as a SG the next 3 games but only play 3 MPG. It's hard to come in cold and knock down shots.

In summary, Perry is a very good player. He needs to continue to work on strength and quickness but will get there. He is an elite catch and shoot guy, plays hard, is a great teammate, and extremely professional. He needs to be paired with a shot creating PG (driver) and a shot creator wing. This will suck the defense in and allow him to knock down 3s. It would also help if they have an athletic rim protector to cover up any flaws on the defensive side. He isn't a perfect player but, put in the right situation, could be in the top 5-10% percentile for catch and shoot 3s, which isn't anything to snub your nose at.

Ole Miss is getting on Perry early and scheduling a visit/zoom. They wanted him out of HS too. I think he would do very well playing for Chris Beard.
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I wouldn’t be against adding Perry at all, but not as a starter at the 2. A guy that gets 10-15 minutes the first year, sure. Unless he just goes off early and looks Lofton/Lanier/Knecht style
 
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VolArmy74 said:
You never know, since you say he hurts his team constantly, maybe they lose by 25 with him playing. It's hard to argue that he kills his team when he plays and that he kills his team when he doesn't.
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He hurts his team when they’re counting on him to play and then he can’t because he’s done something stupid
 
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VolArmy74 said:
So you mean the two times it happened vs the 117 times he played the whole game.
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Did I say those were the only times he hurts his team? And those two times happened to result in a first round tourney loss and a loss to their biggest rivals, and 90% of our fans seem to ask as if those are the only kind of games that matter, so I’m sure if he went all year here on his best behavior and then blew a tourney game for us with his antics, you’ll be here saying “It was just one game!” It’s a mute point though bc he’s not coming here, thankfully
 
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