2025 NBA Season Thread aka Draymond's Annual Wealth Destruction Tour

#376
#376
How exactly does JJJ wreck a game plan? AD will eat your lunch at the basket. If you go athletic he goes over the top of you. If you go big, he'll beat you. He'll get every offensive board if you don't go big.

What is JJJ doing to wreck defensive game plans? He's certainly not beating double teams with his passing.
 
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#377
n_huffhines said:
How exactly does JJJ wreck a game plan? AD will eat your lunch at the basket. If you go athletic he goes over the top of you. If you go big, he'll beat you. He'll get every offensive board if you don't go big.

What is JJJ doing to wreck offensive game plans? He's certainly not beating double teams with his passing.
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Jaren is every bit as good as AD. Sorry buddy.
 
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n_huffhines said:
How exactly does JJJ wreck a game plan? AD will eat your lunch at the basket. If you go athletic he goes over the top of you. If you go big, he'll beat you. He'll get every offensive board if you don't go big.

What is JJJ doing to wreck offensive game plans? He's certainly not beating double teams with his passing.
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Winning

In all honesty, teams play him straight up mostly, and he’s learned to make them pay for it.
 
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#380
TBrown said:
Jaren is every bit as good as AD. Sorry buddy.
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Right now, when healthy, AD is still the better player.

If Im looking at my team for the next 5 seasons after this one, Id definitely pick JJJ (especially with contracts factored in).....
 
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#381
I think about Luka being an absolute prick to Tim McMahon, running off several good Mavs, and the sportsmanship of shouting "**** YOU ************!" at Gobert for no reason, and then I read about him crying and I just chuckle. Bro had it coming.
 
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zjcvols said:
Simmons mentioned that was the best conspiracy theory that he heard. The new ownership group got all their money from Vegas apparently, and that they intentionally did this trade to torch the fanbase and try and start greasing the wheels to move to Vegas
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Yeah, Chamath is fanning the flames on it on Twitter this morning too. Like most conspiracy theories (and all the good ones), it has elements of truth and plausibility in it. I totally buy premises 1, 2, and 3. There really isn't even anything to "buy" on premises 2 and 3; they've essentially made that clear.

Overall I think the theory overstates what they are trying to do and is a little dramatic. However, it is totally plausible to me that the reason they dealt him is because :

- New ownership doesn't have the emotional connection to him like Cuban and the fans do
- They've heard about his lack of effort/conditioning and isn't thrilled about paying him $345M over the next 5 years
- Their main interest in owning the Mavericks is getting gambling legalized and owing the casino
- Trading Luka is a way to manage their costs better

 
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05_never_again said:
Yeah, Chamath is fanning the flames on it on Twitter this morning too. Like most conspiracy theories (and all the good ones), it has elements of truth and plausibility in it. I totally buy premises 1, 2, and 3. There really isn't even anything to "buy" on premises 2 and 3; they've essentially made that clear.

Overall I think the theory overstates what they are trying to do and is a little dramatic. However, it is totally plausible to me that the reason they dealt him is because :

- New ownership doesn't have the emotional connection to him like Cuban and the fans do
- They've heard about his lack of effort/conditioning and isn't thrilled about paying him $345M over the next 5 years
- Their main interest in owning the Mavericks is getting gambling legalized and owing the casino
- Trading Luka is a way to manage their costs better

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Not that this defeats the theory, but anyone talking about moving to Vegas....I have a very hard time believing the NBA is better off with Mavs moving to Vegas vs. expanding to Vegas. I can't see why the league would allow it. They can sell a new team in Vegas for top dollar. Mavs are a franchise that have mattered consistently for two decades in one of the bigger markets.

Also, a Mavs casino/resort in Vegas...who fkn cares? It's nowhere near the same draw that it would be in Dallas.
 
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#385
"Who is this Nico guy? Based on what the internet's saying, I fear for this guy's life." - my wife, a lifelong (casual) Mavs fan

I wish I had recorded her Saturday night. It was just a bummed out stream of consciousness.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Not that this defeats the theory, but anyone talking about moving to Vegas....I have a very hard time believing the NBA is better off with Mavs moving to Vegas vs. expanding to Vegas. I can't see why the league would allow it. They can sell a new team in Vegas for top dollar. Mavs are a franchise that have mattered consistently for two decades in one of the bigger markets.

Also, a Mavs casino/resort in Vegas...who fkn cares? It's nowhere near the same draw that it would be in Dallas.
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Yeah. The whole point of the Adelsons buying the Mavs was to make it the centerpiece of a new casino development in Dallas which is a potentially huge untapped market. Buying an NBA team just to move them to Vegas so you can open your casino seems kind of pointless. If they wanted to do that, then try and convince the NBA to expand to Vegas as you mentioned. I'm also too cynical to think that they are going to perpetually have trouble legalizing gambling in Texas as well. If the right people want it, and the politicians start to understand the amount of money to flow into government coffers from it, it'll get legalized.

Minus the "move the Mavs to Vegas" part, what is laid out there actually sounds perfectly reasonable to me though. There is a lot of online chatter about it, but not a whole lot of mainstream media chatter about it (Bill Simmons is the only major media figure I've seen mention it). The most logical explanation for the trade is that it wasn't a basketball decision, or at least wasn't purely a basketball decision.
 
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05_never_again said:
Yeah. The whole point of the Adelsons buying the Mavs was to make it the centerpiece of a new casino development in Dallas which is a potentially huge untapped market. Buying an NBA team just to move them to Vegas so you can open your casino seems kind of pointless. If they wanted to do that, then try and convince the NBA to expand to Vegas as you mentioned. I'm also too cynical to think that they are going to perpetually have trouble legalizing gambling in Texas as well. If the right people want it, and the politicians start to understand the amount of money to flow into government coffers from it, it'll get legalized.

Minus the "move the Mavs to Vegas" part, what is laid out there actually sounds perfectly reasonable to me though. There is a lot of online chatter about it, but not a whole lot of mainstream media chatter about it (Bill Simmons is the only major media figure I've seen mention it). The most logical explanation for the trade is that it wasn't a basketball decision, or at least wasn't purely a basketball decision.
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Bill Simmons is also a pretty big sports conspiracy theorist. He doesn't think the NFL is rigged, or anything, but he definitely subscribes to cold lottery envelope type of stuff, Stern made MJ "retire" in '93 because of gambling scandal rather than suspending him, etc.
 
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#388
#388
De'Andre Hunter had 20 pts and nothing else. It was the 53rd time in NBA history that a player finished with at least 20 points and exactly zero rebounds, assists, steals and blocks.
 
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#392
RE: JJ Reddick in LAL

Now that Luka is there, it will be a completely different team than what the Lakers had last year. He took that same team with a Lebron that is just not the same guy on a nightly basis, and they have the 5 seed and .596 win %, and were well on their way to hit their over/under win total. Not bad for a guy who has never coached. This is the learning curve part of things, and he's totally passed the test so far.
 
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n_huffhines said:
RE: JJ Reddick in LAL

Now that Luka is there, it will be a completely different team than what the Lakers had last year. He took that same team with a Lebron that is just not the same guy on a nightly basis, and they have the 5 seed and .596 win %, and were well on their way to hit their over/under win total. Not bad for a guy who has never coached. This is the learning curve part of things, and he's totally passed the test so far.
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He will need some creativity to conjure up some rim protection.
 
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#394
95 Vol Alum said:
He will need some creativity to conjure up some rim protection.
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I feel like Reaves or Rui might be on the move. They need a big and maybe a defensive guard.

This trade really benefits Knecht, especially if Reaves is out of the way. Luka is gonna love Knecht.
 
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YankeeVol said:
Maybe trade for JJJ?
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#397
You mean the contract that you signed that says you can get traded?

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#399
n_huffhines said:
You mean the contract that you signed that says you can get traded?

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"Yeah, we can feed our families"

Dennis Schroder has $103m in career earnings from his NBA contracts.

Also, most people who work for someone else don't have a contract with a buyout. They can be fired on the spot and paid out nothing. Do you think he realizes that?
 
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05_never_again said:
"Yeah, we can feed our families"

Dennis Schroder has $103m in career earnings from his NBA contracts.

Also, most people who work for someone else don't have a contract with a buyout. They can be fired on the spot and paid out nothing. Do you think he realizes that?
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If only they had a Union to negotiate something different on their behalf.
 
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