I think he got done kind of dirty. He's at a place that doesn't give two ***** about football and a horrible conference fit, but he's been to bowls 3 years in a row. I know they played poorly against Stanford but they were coming off an upset win over a ranked Louisville team on the road the game before.That's really surprising. He's not a superstar or anything but he's done a pretty decent job at the program.
I think he got done kind of dirty. He's at a place that doesn't give two ***** about football and a horrible conference fit, but he's been to bowls 3 years in a row. I know they played poorly against Stanford but they were coming off an upset win over a ranked Louisville team on the road the game before.
I guess they figured they aren't swimming in the same waters as PSU/UF/LSU etc., which is of course true. Even if every other school in the country kept their coach, Cal is still probably signing an assistant or coordinator with West Coast ties.Losing to 3-7 Stanford did not help his case I'm sure but seems shortsighted with this current market.
He will never come back South, but man I'd love for him to be the DC here again.
Pretty good hire for Okla St. Figured they were going the coordinator route. A reservation might be that at his 2 HC stops, he's been mediocre for a few years before breaking through with a single season, then he leaves for another job.
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Okla. State hires UNT's Morris to revive program
Eric Morris, who has led North Texas to a 10-1 record this season while averaging 503.3 yards per game, has been hired as the next coach at Oklahoma State.www.espn.com
At least he's staying with the team through the end of the season.Was just about to post that.
I hate this for the Mean Green.
I also detest it when a sitting HC takes another gig before the season is over. Very disrespectful.
The portal windows and pressure to start recruiting ASAP don’t help things eitherAt least he's staying with the team through the end of the season.
If anything, maybe this just gets any "is he staying or is he going" distraction out of the way for the players and rest of the staff and they can focus for the rest of the season on the games.
Yeah it's also crazy because North Texas still has a not so small chance to be the highest ranked G5 team. I get that a HC opportunity at a P4 school doesn't come around so often. But man, giving up on your team when you have a shot at playoffs is pretty low down.Was just about to post that.
I hate this for the Mean Green.
I also detest it when a sitting HC takes another gig before the season is over. Very disrespectful.
Yeah it's also crazy because North Texas still has a not so small chance to be the highest ranked G5 team. I get that a HC opportunity at a P4 school doesn't come around so often. But man, giving up on your team when you have a shot at playoffs is pretty low down.
The only thing I will say, if you are going to leave, then doing it now instead of waiting for a couple weeks is way more preferrable. At least now you give your former team a chance to prepare for your absence. And it gives them a better chance at finding a good replacement before the coaching carousel gets even more crazy.
Cincy and BYU are solid programs but an SEC team should be expected to win those games against G5 teams (BYU wasn’t in the Big 12 yet at the time).He also beat a pretty good Cincy team in the opener, a South Carolina team that ended up finishing #19, a decent BYU team in Provo, and upset an Ole Miss team who was ranked #14 at the time and had been as high as #7.
Ole Miss has a NIL collective that, at the moment, is better funded and run than many other schools that have much more resources. Until Arkansas creates something like that (which isn't impossible), it is just hard to consistently expect 8 or 9 wins a year. And BTW, I don't think Ole Miss's expectations should be CFP contention every year even though that's where they've been the last few years. What Lane is doing there is incredible and way above what their expectations should be, honestly. He's the exception that proves the rule. It's unreasonable to expect that just like it is unreasonable for UGA to expect Kirby to win just as much as Saban.Cincy and BYU are solid programs but an SEC team should be expected to win those games against G5 teams (BYU wasn’t in the Big 12 yet at the time).
Overall I just don’t think Arkansas’ expectations should be any lower than what Ole Miss is currently able to achieve with a good coach. Those are two very comparable at worst programs who just went in opposite directions after they each made hires in 2019.
Ole Miss has a NIL collective that, at the moment, is better funded and run than many other schools that have much more resources. Until Arkansas creates something like that (which isn't impossible), it is just hard to consistently expect 8 or 9 wins a year. And BTW, I don't think Ole Miss's expectations should be CFP contention every year even though that's where they've been the last few years. What Lane is doing there is incredible and way above what their expectations should be, honestly. He's the exception that proves the rule. It's unreasonable to expect that just like it is unreasonable for UGA to expect Kirby to win just as much as Saban.
Arkansas is a tough job because the only SEC schools you clearly have more resources than are Miss St, Vandy, Kentucky, Missouri, and maybe South Carolina. To go 9-3 in any given season, you're probably going to have to go 5-3 in SEC play, which is hard if two-thirds to three-fourths of your conference opponents have resource advantages over you.
It definitely is, because when you look at it Tennessee is not as high on the list as most of our fanbase thinks it is. Your point is dead on.Gonna be honest- that last part was kind of chilling. Vandy is whatever. When you stop to think about the resources some of those schools commit to athletics though-
South Carolina has a decent atmosphere for football-as much as I hate to admit it. The chicken suit behind a shower curtain and techno are lame to me, but they get into it. They also have a top flight WBB team and have had some decent mens teams
KY-the focus on basketball.Football is just a passtime until November
The point of all that being that being in the SEC is humbling. 99% of us are at least fairly familiar with the UT campus even if you didn't go to school there. You have been around to kind of know where things are. The place is HUGE. The campus is literally bigger than the city I grew up in-and has more students.
To realize that we are middle of the pack in terms of resources is mind boggling.
These schools are getting way too big man lol.
Sorry for the rant. Just in kind of a reflective mood today I suppose as I stand in lines everywhere I go so I have free time ha ha
PS-to address the other school you mentioned, Missouri was a mistake.
Colorado St is an interesting program. Several years ago they built a brand new on-campus stadium (that I think was fairly controversial in Fort Collins) that was a big part of a supposed renewed investment in the program. Went after and hired a couple of SEC offensive coordinators (McElwain and Bobo). Hasn't worked out, but I think there is an institutional desire there to be pretty good at football. Deion Sanders coaching at their biggest rival might also be a motivating factor.Jim Mora to Colorado State, which leaves UConn open. UConn is pretty far down the totem pole.
I guess Mora is one you used to hear mentioned for head coaching jobs, but it's been a while. 9 wins at Uconn last year and also this year to date.
It definitely is, because when you look at it Tennessee is not as high on the list as most of our fanbase thinks it is. Your point is dead on.
Colorado St is an interesting program. Several years ago they built a brand new on-campus stadium (that I think was fairly controversial in Fort Collins) that was a big part of a supposed renewed investment in the program. Went after and hired a couple of SEC offensive coordinators (McElwain and Bobo). Hasn't worked out, but I think there is an institutional desire there to be pretty good at football. Deion Sanders coaching at their biggest rival might also be a motivating factor.
Yeah UTK has its own power plant and steam system that is delivered throughout campus thru a series of underground tunnels. With their own engineering group, each building has a crew, the grounds crew is also huge and more active than you will see from any city. Pretty much always a, or more, 50 million+ construction projects.I have never been so delusional (at least while sober lol) that I think UT would ever be at the top of any list.
I suppose that I just cannot really wrap my head around the amount of funds and infrastructure that is required to make a place like tOSU work. Face it, our campus is its own city. Theirs is its own metropolis.
From a logistics and engineering standpoint-it is somewhat mind boggling honestly.
If they weren't already paying him for the year, I would make sure they paid me for the games they appear to say I was still the head coach at LSU for.About a month after they actually did it, LSU formally served notice to fire Brian Kelly today ha ha.
Guess they realized they were not gonna be able to get out of his buyout.
They owe him $54 million.
I remember when I was a kid, I saw him one night at Krogers all by himself, very quiet individual. I was in shock because back then he was a huge name and was a legend at Boise State. He seemed like he didn't really like Tennessee imo.Losing to 3-7 Stanford did not help his case I'm sure but seems shortsighted with this current market.
He will never come back South, but man I'd love for him to be the DC here again.
