2020 Presidential Race

[Orangeburst]

A policy he has zero ability to enforce? That would be like me worrying about what particular flavor of religion a candidate believes in.

Dont kid yourself. The pulpit has a strong prescence with complicent govs and media. 100 days is already the talk.

 

[NorthDallas40]

There isn't a POTUS we have ever had who who wasn't an alpha. Can you imagine the set of stones you must have to think you can and should be the leader of this country?

You’ve got to be one of the most self absorbed narcissistic people to walk the earth and completely buy into your own hubris if you look at the job and casually think “piece of cake... I got this”.


Oh and I’ve enjoyed sitting back and laughing at this thread today

 

[carlos86]

This Mattis?

I may be wrong that that seems to be from Mattis’s trip to China in 2018 to meet with the Chinese Defense Minister.

 

[AM64]

There isn't a POTUS we have ever had who who wasn't an alpha. Can you imagine the set of stones you must have to think you can and should be the leader of this country?

There has to be ego and lust like you wouldn't believe to put yourself and family through what it takes to become president. Most of us wouldn't believe it was worth the abuse. I can't see anyone with real character willing to face it.

 

[volfanhill]

There has to be ego and lust like you wouldn't believe to put yourself and family through what it takes to become president. Most of us wouldn't believe it was worth the abuse. I can't see anyone with real character willing to face it.

I think you just hit the nail on the head. No one of character and true leadership would want it.

 

[canitpro]

You’ve got to be one of the most self absorbed narcissistic people to walk the earth and completely buy into your own hubris if you look at the job and casually think “piece of cake... I got this”.


Oh and I’ve enjoyed sitting back and laughing at this thread today

I wouldnt be surprised if Taft thought it would be a piece of cake

 

[volfanhill]

I wouldnt be surprised if Taft thought it would be a piece of cake

Well done

 

[hUTch2002]

68% error rate? Sounds legit.

Sounds like a FISA application.

 

[NorthDallas40]

I wouldnt be surprised if Taft thought it would be a piece of cake

I’m quite certain FDR scoffed at anybody who might consider him not up to the task.

And I’d guess Ford looked at his situation and thought “what the hell did I do to wind up in the middle of this **** show I’m veep FFS!”

Carter is the outlier, an enigma. I believe to be a very intelligent and truly moral man of very high character. And humble. Of course he sucked as president

 

[hUTch2002]

And if they do that, they’ll split the Republican vote with whatever is left of the party and Republicans will never win another election. Not enough radicals to win as a party by itself. But you might be correct. Never discount paranoia, insanity and ego when it all runs together.

Good point there at the end. That’s how we’re getting Biden.

 

[lawgator1]

Is there a point at which a significant majority of the GOPers in Congress will say enough is enough, and follow the election result rather than Trump?

 

[Caculator]

Is there a point at which a significant majority of the GOPers in Congress will say enough is enough, and follow the election result rather than Trump?

Slow your roll until 1/20/2021.......maybe.

 

[volfanhill]

Is there a point at which a significant majority of the GOPers in Congress will say enough is enough, and follow the election result rather than Trump?

They will once Biden is inaugurated

 

[Rifleman]

Trump Campaign Wisconsin Election Lawsuit: Court Rejects Allegations | National Review

The Marxist goons over at the National Review with a pretty good write up of the recent Wisconsin decision. The Trump-appointed judge went out of his way to give the Trump campaign's claims a full and fair hearing.

Judge Ludwig denied the state’s claims that the campaign lacked standing. Instead, he gave the campaign the hearing they asked for — the opportunity to call witnesses and submit damning exhibits. Yet, when it got down to brass tacks, the morning of the hearing, it turned out there was no actual disagreement between the Trump team and Wisconsin officials about the pertinent facts of the case. The president’s counsel basically said: Never
mind, we don’t need to present all our proof . . . we’ll just stipulate to all the relevant facts and argue legal principles.

Then the judge said, sure, tell me what your principle objections are and the Trump team withered again.

When it became clear, however, that the court was willing to entertain the president’s case but would scrutinize it closely, the Trump team quickly dropped the First Amendment and Due Process claims. In addition, as Ludwig recounts, the president’s counsel “offer[ed] no clue of a coherent Equal Protection theory,” and “offered neither evidence nor argument to support such a claim.

It has become an article of faith among ardent Trump followers that the election was stolen . . . But every time a court offers him an opportunity to establish by proof what he is promoting by Twitter, Team Trump folds. Why is that?

 

[Stew Cook]

Is there a point at which a significant majority of the GOPers in Congress will say enough is enough, and follow the election result rather than Trump?

It will soon be in fashion to be a GOP Puritan.. but the Trump savages will do their worst to defile them.

 

[Sandman 423]

Is there a point at which a significant majority of the GOPers in Congress will say enough is enough, and follow the election result rather than Trump?

I don’t remember you complaining when Democratic leaders were questioning the legitimacy of the election in 16. Remind me, when did that stop?

 

[tvolsfan]

@hog88 thinks it's fine. He "believes" that Trump's failure to concede is irrelevant. (he actually knows better but is torn between hypocrisy and admitting he was wrong) In pure Trumpian fashion, hog picked hypocrisy.

I'm still amused by all the people who said Trump would accept election defeat.

 

[volfanhill]

Trump Campaign Wisconsin Election Lawsuit: Court Rejects Allegations | National Review

The Marxist goons over at the National Review with a pretty good write up of the recent Wisconsin decision. The Trump-appointed judge went out of his way to give the Trump campaign's claims a full and fair hearing.



Then the judge said, sure, tell me what your principle objections are and the Trump team withered again.

Q believers will believe anything. Abe Lincoln told them not to believe everything on the internet and they refuse to listen.

 

[lostsheep]

I wouldnt be surprised if Taft thought it would be a piece of cake

Not sure about that. Taft by all accounts wasn’t narcissistic and seemed pretty well-grounded. The man wanted nothing more than to sit on the Supreme Court, not to be president.

 

[volfanhill]

I'm still amused by all the people who said Trump would accept election defeat.

It depends on what you mean by accept. I had my doubts he would ever say "I lost." I had zero doubt he would willingly vacate office.

 

[tvolsfan]

So simple to say, and yet most of them are still cowering at the thought of an orange temper-tantrum.

I'm laughing at "putting the country first" and "pride" being factors in Trump's actions.

 

[volfanhill]

Not sure about that. Taft by all accounts wasn’t narcissistic and seemed pretty well-grounded. The man wanted nothing more than to sit on the Supreme Court, not to be president.

He was making a joke about Taft being fat and cake

 

[lawgator1]

I don’t remember you complaining when Democratic leaders were questioning the legitimacy of the election in 16. Remind me, when did that stop?

Dems didn't delay him taking office or suggest en masse that he didn't win. In fact, Obama met with him and offered assistance. Trump will never be so mature, classy, or gracious.

Now run along and go send in $8 more to the Trump reelection defense fund, a/k/a the fund so he can buy more cheap gold plated crap for Mar a Lago.

 

[tvolsfan]

It depends on what you mean by accept. I had my doubts he would ever say "I lost." I had zero doubt he would willingly vacate office.

I don't count trying to get the Supreme Court and state legislators to overturn the results as accepting the loss. There's a big difference between "exhausting legal options" and straight up trying to bully Republicans into overturning your defeat. There's no doubt that if this came down to one state, instead of several, this would have been a much uglier, scarier fight.

 

[volfanhill]

I don't count trying to get the Supreme Court and state legislators to overturn the results as accepting the loss. There's a big difference between "exhausting legal options" and straight up trying to bully Republicans into doing your bidding. There's no doubt that if this came down to one state, instead of several, this would have been a much uglier, scarier fight.

I agree. I just never bought some of the hand ringing that he wouldn't leave on Inauguration Day