2020 Presidential Race

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#46,855
I’m really enjoying listening to Biden’s statist preaching on COVID as well as his mask shaming rhetoric. I think it’s going to work great for him!
 
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Boston Vol said:
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When the data is this peculiar, it often means you are nearing an inflection point. This EC will turn radically toward team blue soon before normalizing, essentially making the voices of conservatives in many key states mute for a few cycles.

I have a good solution:

1) Keep the electoral college
2) Get rid of winner takes all and congressional district based EV allocation
3) Go to a proportional allocation system for all the states

This way, the conservative in California and Illinois, and the liberal in Texas and Ohio have a voice.

I know this is a great solution because liberals and conservatives hiss in pain when I bring this up and have no effective refutation because they enjoy the system's biases that favor their side.
 
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Wow, this is pretty interesting. For all the efforts made by Trump to argue that you'll be less safe in Biden's America's, not many are biting (other than those who have already downed the Kool Aid).
 
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Rifleman said:
When the data is this peculiar, it often means you are nearing an inflection point. This EC will turn radically toward team blue soon before normalizing, essentially making the voices of conservatives in many key states mute for a few cycles.

I have a good solution:

1) Keep the electoral college
2) Get rid of winner takes all and congressional district based EV allocation
3) Go to a proportional allocation system for all the states

This way, the conservative in California and Illinois, and the liberal in Texas and Ohio have a voice.

I know this is a great solution because liberals and conservatives hiss in pain when I bring this up and have no effective refutation because they enjoy the system's biases that favor their side.
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The constitution does not dictate how each state allocates their EV’s only how many they have. The states are free to allocate them as they see fit. Oddly enough the vast majority have determined a winner take all makes sense at the state level. Thus I’d suggest your proposal has already been evaluated and found lacking by a majority of states.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
The constitution does not dictate how each state allocates their EV’s only how many they have. The states are free to allocate them as they see fit. Oddly enough the vast majority have determined a winner take all makes sense at the state level. Thus I’d suggest your proposal has already been evaluated and found lacking by a majority of states.
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1) A state like California is all too happy to give all 55 of its electors to Hillary Clinton, despite the fact that Donald Trump received the support of nearly 4.5 million voters in that state.

2) This benefits California liberals by depressing and suppressing the conservative vote until they either stop participating in this state-wide sham, or simply go away.

3) A candidate like Trump will visit California very rarely, leading to further atrophy in the state-wide party organization. States then become 1 party fiefdoms and this process divides America leading to dismal disorder and bipolar chaos we have now.

4) Under my system, there would have been no controversy in either the 2000 or 2016 election. Trump, for instance, would have launched a strong campaign in California and netted 20-25 of its 55 EVs, and this along with an incentive to campaign in other blue states, would have led him to capture the popular vote as well.

5) Also this system would cause the parties to moderate their message and not fight for the most extreme party activists in their own single party fiefdoms.

So the state political powers have a huge incentive to do the wrong thing here. This change, along with an end to partisan gerrymandering, would transform this country and make us need to listen to minority voices in every state and district.
 
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Rifleman said:
1) A state like California is all too happy to give all 55 of its electors to Hillary Clinton, despite the fact that Donald Trump received the support of nearly 4.5 million voters in that state.

2) This benefits California liberals by depressing and suppressing the conservative vote until they either stop participating in this state-wide sham, or simply go away.

3) A candidate like Trump will visit California very rarely, leading to further atrophy in the state-wide party organization. States then become 1 party fiefdoms and this process divides America leading to dismal disorder and bipolar chaos we have now.

4) Under my system, there would have been no controversy in either the 2000 or 2016 election. Trump, for instance, would have launched a strong campaign in California and netted 20-25 of its 55 EVs, and this along with an incentive to campaign in other blue states, would have led him to capture the popular vote as well.

5) Also this system would cause the parties to moderate their message and not fight for the most extreme party activists in their own single party fiefdoms.

So the state political powers have a huge incentive to do the wrong thing here. This change, along with an end to partisan gerrymandering, would transform this country and make us need to listen to minority voices in every state and district.
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It isn’t the wrong thing to the state making the choice. By definition it’s the right thing for them. You just don’t like their choice.

Also as far as I’m concerned the EC count should be capped at 50, one for each peer state member of the Republic. And my system is simpler than yours and gets to the same point. Requiring not focusing on EC vote centers.
 
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#46,871
Yeah, well Donny has Charlie Kirk (community college drop out) and Candace Owen (URI drop out). So there's that.
 
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evillawyer said:
Yeah, well Donny has Charlie Kirk (community college drop out) and Candace Owen (URI drop out). So there's that.
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Lol..."deep appreciation of science."

Biden is incapable of putting together an intelligible sentence at this point so I doubt he's capable of a deep thought either.
 
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