2020 Presidential Race

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BowlBrother85 said:
There is no video which shows Biden committing an act of molestation... at least not as the law defines the word "molestation".
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But you said his actions were wrong? What kind of wrong? Why has he been called out for his actions? Why would I call him out on his actions?
Let's put this to rest. We disagree. I'm a rape survivor and have had men put their hands on me when i was young. When i became old enough to speak up, i did. And I'm still speaking up today. If the body language of the girls, Biden's actions of constantly petting, touching, pulling at, seeking out young children, young children pulling away from him and kissing young children on the mouth don't alarm you there is nothing more i can say except i pray you are never put in the position my father was.
 
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NurseGoodVol said:
But you said his actions were wrong? What kind of wrong? Why has he been called out for his actions? Why would I call him out on his actions?
Let's put this to rest. We disagree. I'm a rape survivor and have had men put their hands on me when i was young. When i became old enough to speak up, i did. And I'm still speaking up today. If the body language of the girls, Biden's actions of constantly petting, touching, pulling at, seeking out young children, young children pulling away from him and kissing young children on the mouth don't alarm you there is nothing more i can say except i pray you are never put in the position my father was.
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First, I'm really sorry to hear of what you have had to go through and cope with in life. That is horrible. I can't imagine. Thankfully, it's not anything that anyone I am close to, has ever had to deal with.

Invading someone's personal space and not respecting their body, is wrong. It is rude and disrespectful. From what I've seen, Biden has been guilty of this quite a bit... but it's the use of the word "molestation" that I take exception with. I have seen nothing which leads me to believe that Biden's inappropriateness is for the purpose of sexual gratification. Some people of his generation don't seem to know any better... but now that he clearly does know better, any such further behavior should be met with swift condemnation.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
First, I'm really sorry to hear of what you have had to go through and cope with in life. That is horrible. I can't imagine. Thankfully, it's not anything that anyone I am close to, has ever had to deal with.

Invading someone's personal space and not respecting their body, is wrong. It is rude and disrespectful. From what I've seen, Biden has been guilty of this quite a bit... but it's the use of the word "molestation" that I take exception with. I have seen nothing which leads me to believe that Biden's inappropriateness is for the purpose of sexual gratification. Some people of his generation don't seem to know any better... but now that he clearly does know better, any such further behavior should be met with swift condemnation.
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BowlBrother85 said:
First, I'm really sorry to hear of what you have had to go through and cope with in life. That is horrible. I can't imagine. Thankfully, it's not anything that anyone I am close to, has ever had to deal with.

Invading someone's personal space and not respecting their body, is wrong. It is rude and disrespectful. From what I've seen, Biden has been guilty of this quite a bit... but it's the use of the word "molestation" that I take exception with. I have seen nothing which leads me to believe that Biden's inappropriateness is for the purpose of sexual gratification. Some people of his generation don't seem to know any better... but now that he clearly does know better, any such further behavior should be met with swift condemnation.
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Bless his heart, the poor thing didn't know any better.
And you have the balls to post that Trump doesn't have any self-awareness.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
First, I'm really sorry to hear of what you have had to go through and cope with in life. That is horrible. I can't imagine. Thankfully, it's not anything that anyone I am close to, has ever had to deal with.

Invading someone's personal space and not respecting their body, is wrong. It is rude and disrespectful. From what I've seen, Biden has been guilty of this quite a bit... but it's the use of the word "molestation" that I take exception with. I have seen nothing which leads me to believe that Biden's inappropriateness is for the purpose of sexual gratification. Some people of his generation don't seem to know any better... but now that he clearly does know better, any such further behavior should be met with swift condemnation.
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I think of him like somebody's Aunt Ethel-- pinch your cheeks and rough up your hair... Then give you a big old hug. Nothing sexual, just showing affection.

Of course, they throw up all these pictures and some have said it makes them uncomfortable. He's an intelligent man, so he needs to just stop.

BUT:

Go to work and make fun of a handicapped person, tell someone they need to go back to their own country, tell them how ugly they are--insinuate they are menstruating, and grab em by the genitals. Do you think you would be fired?

This man is our President.
 
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Orange_Vol1321 said:
The Democrats will never let Biden be the nominee. They will Sanders him just like 2016.
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The way the DCC shames their director into resigning for not bringing in enough diversity should be a clue. If Biden is still standing when the Dems have their convention he will not have the new power center of that party behind him.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I would argue that publicly siding with Vladimir Putin's denial, and against the conclusions reached by Dan Coats and his office last July at the Helsinki press conference, was in and of itself, hindering the efforts of the Office of the DNI. Nominating Ratcliffe, a political partisan for DNI, has raised concerns even from Sen. Richard Burr, a Republican. And I never said that Trump should discuss specifically "what" is being done but he should iterate that "something" will be done to counter-act Russia's operation. He has not even said word one about the Senate Intel report and that is concerning. Trump has never seemed interested in even acknowledging Russia's operation against US elections and per the Senate Intel report, those operations went well beyond merely being an "internet influence campaign". Russia hacked into the election systems in 50 states and will try and do so again in 2020. That is unacceptable.
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So, you don't know what he's done or not done. You have no evidence that he's given any kind of "Stand down" order. You just want to rail about something, as usual.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
So, you don't know what he's done or not done. You have no evidence that he's given any kind of "Stand down" order. You just want to rail about something, as usual.
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Correct. I only have evidence that Trump sought to cast doubt on Russia's interference operation far longer than he should have, and to contradict the conclusions reached by the US intelligence community. That Helsinki press conference was quite a pathetic display.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Correct. I only have evidence that Trump sought to cast doubt on Russia's interference operation far longer than he should have, and to contradict the conclusions reached by the US intelligence community. That Helsinki press conference was quite a display.
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OK.

You really should try to start pacing your screeching around here. You've be come background noise.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Correct. I only have evidence that Trump sought to cast doubt on Russia's interference operation far longer than he should have, and to contradict the conclusions reached by the US intelligence community. That Helsinki press conference was quite a pathetic display.
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That was the last straw as far as I'm concerned.

He all but crawled on the ground and lick-shined Putin's shoes. Maybe it was a lack of spine that got Trump those 14 military service deferments.
 
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Rifleman said:
That was the last straw as far as I'm concerned.

He all but crawled on the ground and lick-shined Putin's shoes. Maybe it was a lack of spine that got Trump those 14 military service deferments.
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BS your "last straw" was long before that.
 
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37L1 said:
BS your "last straw" was long before that.
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Well, I had hoped that the man might have some core of strength in him. But on that day I saw a man practically piss himself until he became the puddle at his own feet,

I have never seen a weaker example of a "leader" in any setting. If he genuflected to Putin any harder he would have knocked himself out.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Correct. I only have evidence that Trump sought to cast doubt on Russia's interference operation far longer than he should have, and to contradict the conclusions reached by the US intelligence community. That Helsinki press conference was quite a pathetic display.
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What did Russia do that effected the 2016 election? Be very specific for my slow mind.
 
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Burger said:
What did Russia do that effected the 2016 election? Be very specific for my slow mind.
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I will just stick to the words contained in the Senate Intelligence Committee's report which was led by Chair Sen. Richard Burr (R-NC) and Vice Chair Sen. Mark Warner (D-VA). The report details how Russia "directed extensive activity, beginning in at least 2014 and carrying into at least 2017, against US election infrastructure at the state and local level."

The key part of the report shows that it's very likely all 50 states were targeted by Russian hackers. That doesn't mean that Moscow got into all of the states' systems, just that it infiltrated at least one in every state. The report did not find any evidence that hackers were able to change votes but because there was no discernible pattern, intelligence professionals and other US officials believe Russia likely aimed to gain access to any systems it could to better understand what it all looks like. There is this quote from a top cyber-security official:

"What it mostly looked like to us was reconnaissance. I would have characterized it at the time as sort of conducting the reconnaissance to do the network mapping, to do the topology mapping so that you could actually understand the network, establish a presence so you could come back later and actually execute an operation." - Michael Daniel, cyber-security official who assisted the Senate Intel Committee

The document shows that Moscow's military hackers significantly infiltrated 21 states in 2016 but had varying degrees of success as they accessed those systems. The most successful state appears to have been Illinois. "Russian cyber actors had successfully penetrated Illinois's voter registration database tables, and accessed up to 200,000 voter registration records." The report further adds that hackers were able to take out an "unknown quantity of voter registration data" and "were in a position to delete or change voter data," though there is no evidence that they actually did.
 
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