2017 NFL Draft

[NashVol11]

Vols in the 2017 draft

Barnett - 1st round
Hurd - 1st round
Sutton - 1st round
Martin - 1st round

Dobbs - 2nd round (can be 1st rounder with big season)
JRM - 2nd round

Kamara - 3rd round

5th round or later: Vereen, Weisman
UFA: Foreman, Lewis

Possible early entrants with a big season: Wolf and Malone

Hahaha. Since you're so confident that you're better at evaluating talent than everyone else, I'll bet you $100 right now that Dobbs isn't taken in the first two rounds.

 

[Nationdom]

No chance. He'll be the second DE taken after Myles Garrett.

It's going to be hard to not take Barnett number 1 overall after racking up 16 sacks and coming off a Natty and First Team All American selection. Three things that Myles won't have.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

It's going to be hard to not take Barnett number 1 overall after racking up 16 sacks and coming off a Natty and First Team All American selection. Three things that Myles won't have.

Myles will put up freaky Jadeveon Clowney type numbers at the combine. That'll make him the #1 overall pick.

Barnett might end up the better pro but he won't be selected higher than Garrett. His athleticism will be too enticing.

 

[cappy16]

Vols in the 2017 draft

Barnett - 1st round
Hurd - 1st round
Sutton - 1st round
Martin - 1st round

Dobbs - 2nd round (can be 1st rounder with big season)
JRM - 2nd round

Kamara - 3rd round

5th round or later: Vereen, Weisman
UFA: Foreman, Lewis

Possible early entrants with a big season: Wolf and Malone

Why do this to yourself? I think you know you are going to get drilled, and do it for attention.

 

[Stoked]

Vols in the 2017 draft

Barnett - 1st round
Hurd - 1st round
Sutton - 1st round
Martin - 1st round

Dobbs - 2nd round (can be 1st pick :crazy: with big season)
JRM - 2nd round

Kamara - 3rd round

5th round or later: Vereen, Weisman
UFA: Foreman, Lewis

Possible early entrants with a big season: Wolf and Malone

Fyp

 

[SleepingGiantVols]

not a draft expert, but just my opinion...

Don't think Sutton goes Top 10 IMO .. late first rd
Barnett - looks about right.
Hurd - see him staying for his Senior Yr honestly.
JRM - looks about right.
Kamara - Later round than 3rd..
Malone - not ready..
Dobbs - may not get drafted

Others - Ethan Wolf is really good looking TE prospect if he comes out.. TK needs time. Vareen probably picked up after draft.. Evan needs time. Medley needs time. Coleman probably picked up later on as well..

I agree except for Dobbs he will be drafted for one reason and one reason alone...Cam Newton and Russell Wilson. The NFL teams are starting to look at Dual-Threat QBs seriously again and they will consider Dobbs heavily if he has another good year

EDIT: Left out the fact of how quickly Dobbs could pick up a system, He is smart enough to have a serious chance

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

I agree except for Dobbs he will be drafted for one reason and one reason alone...Cam Newton and Russell Wilson. The NFL teams are starting to look at Dual-Threat QBs seriously again and they will consider Dobbs heavily if he has another good year

EDIT: Left out the fact of how quickly Dobbs could pick up a system, He is smart enough to have a serious chance

Also Dobbs has enticing measureables. 6'3" 210. Very fast (wouldn't be surprised if he ran sub-4.5 40). And a big arm (see the throw vs Kentucky).

He has the potential to be a high draft pick with a little more consistency. More games throwing like he did vs Kentucky and South Carolina.

 

[Rudy123]

Seattle will probably stick with Thomas Rawls, but I agree. Hurd will be a monster for someone. He'll be a better NFL player than Derrick Henry, and it wouldn't surprise me if it were by a wide margin.

John Gruden said that D. Henry is a between the tackles runner and can't effectively get outside. Sorta like Trent Richardson. Remember T.R. went to Cleveland, of course no one succeeds at Cleveland but then he left for Indy and did horribly there also.
Hurd is more versatile runner.

In hind sight, aren't we glad that D. Henry didn't come to U.T. and we got Hurd instead?????????

 

[Rudy123]

I agree except for Dobbs he will be drafted for one reason and one reason alone...Cam Newton and Russell Wilson. The NFL teams are starting to look at Dual-Threat QBs seriously again and they will consider Dobbs heavily if he has another good year

EDIT: Left out the fact of how quickly Dobbs could pick up a system, He is smart enough to have a serious chance

Most dual threat q.b.'s don't take the time to read defenses or they don't have the smarts to read defenses super quickly. SO, they do like V. Young did. If V.Y.'s primary receiver was not open, he tucked the ball and ran. He did not look for the secondary receiver or to the T. E. to throw the ball to.
However; Dobbs is very smart and can learn to read defenses quickly and can check down all of his receivers and then run, if the need be.
I don't see Dobbs going pro. His pick will likely be in the 4th or 5th round and not worth the time for that amount of money, when he can forgo football and head straight to his career at Boeing or Lockheed/Martin.

 

[KBVol]

Barnett has a legit shot at #1 overall

No he doesn't. First round? Yes. Overall #1? No.

 

[AboveAllNations]

Also Dobbs has enticing measureables. 6'3" 210. Very fast (wouldn't be surprised if he ran sub-4.5 40). And a big arm (see the throw vs Kentucky).

He has the potential to be a high draft pick with a little more consistency. More games throwing like he did vs Kentucky and South Carolina.

He needs to work on his accuracy, but Dobbs does have a cannon. There was a play last year in the Taxslayer Bowl where he flicked the ball from the center of his own goal line to the sideline on the opposite 45 yard line like it was nothing. Here's the link, at the 1:43:40 mark:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRha6c9f6Qk#t=1h43m40s

I don't know about sub 4.5 speed, but Dobbs' time will probably be around Johnny Manziel's 4.6.

 

[KBVol]

Also Dobbs has enticing measureables. 6'3" 210. Very fast (wouldn't be surprised if he ran sub-4.5 40). And a big arm (see the throw vs Kentucky).

He has the potential to be a high draft pick with a little more consistency. More games throwing like he did vs Kentucky and South Carolina.

-Josh would need to put on 15 or so lbs...he's 207 right now, needs to get to 220-225.
-looks much more 4.6-ish to me, not 4.4-ish
-mid to late round pick IMO, if he gets a lot more consistent
-agree that his arm is plenty strong....just needs to get more accurate

 

[illinoisvolfan1]

Man, the off-season is tough.

No kidding. Can we at least start the 2016 season before debating where kids might go in the 2017 draft?

 

[illinoisvolfan1]

Looking at the firepower that will or could be leaving after next season is a bit scary. Hope our 2016 and 2017 classes supplement the talent that is on the team now that will be here in 2017........

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

-Josh would need to put on 15 or so lbs...he's 207 right now, needs to get to 220-225.
-looks much more 4.6-ish to me, not 4.4-ish
-mid to late round pick IMO, if he gets a lot more consistent
-agree that his arm is plenty strong....just needs to get more accurate

I would have agreed with you on this after his sophomore season. But he looked more explosive last year. Significantly faster. Especially in the Florida game.

https://youtu.be/VRrJDH5ibmg

Check out the 2:10 and 4:44 mark. He showed elite speed on those 2 plays. Its hard to run away from Florida's defense and Josh did that last year.

If I had to guess right now he runs in a range similar to Mariota at the combine. 4.48 to 4.52 in the 40.

 

[river rat]

Y'all really think Dobbs will go out for the draft?

Always had the impression he only plays to pay for his education and has career plans that don't involve football.

But who knows? Dobbs may not even know until after this season, especially if there's a chance for a big payday.

 

[NashVol11]

John Gruden said that D. Henry is a between the tackles runner and can't effectively get outside. Sorta like Trent Richardson. Remember T.R. went to Cleveland, of course no one succeeds at Cleveland but then he left for Indy and did horribly there also.
Hurd is more versatile runner.

In hind sight, aren't we glad that D. Henry didn't come to U.T. and we got Hurd instead?????????

That's because Henry is slow. Richardson has horrible vision, so Henry will probably be better than that, but yes. I'd take Hurd all day.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

That's because Henry is slow. Richardson has horrible vision, so Henry will probably be better than that, but yes. I'd take Hurd all day.

Henry is not slow. He has good top end speed.

He just lacks quickness and great acceleration.

He's like a runaway train. Gets him awhile to get going but once he does there's no stopping him.

 

[KBVol]

That's because Henry is slow. Richardson has horrible vision, so Henry will probably be better than that, but yes. I'd take Hurd all day.

Henry's not slow and has an ability that Hurd doesn't seem to have right now....the ability to get to the second level, make somebody miss and rip off a long run. I've seen him do it many, many, many times while I really haven't seen Hurd do it yet in two years outside of the Bowling Green run which got called back. Also, once Henry gets going, he's very fast, he runs away from guys, nobody really catches him from behind. He's just a little plodding early on, doesn't have a great first step at 6'3-6'4 245.

 

[NashVol11]

Henry is not slow. He has good top end speed.

He just lacks quickness and great acceleration.

He's like a runaway train. Gets him awhile to get going but once he does there's no stopping him.

And that's a problem. For a RB, acceleration is far more important.

 

[cappy16]

And that's a problem. For a RB, acceleration is far more important.

Absolutely. A running back with poor acceleration won't make it in the NFL.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

Henry's not slow and has an ability that Hurd doesn't seem to have right now....the ability to get to the second level, make somebody miss and rip off a long run. I've seen him do it many, many, many times while I really haven't seen Hurd do it yet in two years outside of the Bowling Green run which got called back. Also, once Henry gets going, he's very fast, he runs away from guys, nobody really catches him from behind. He's just a little plodding early on, doesn't have a great first step at 6'3-6'4 245.

Hurd has great acceleration while Henry has putrid acceleration. That is the separator between great backs and average ones.

Those giant holes won't exist in the pros. Henry will be another Bama bust. While Hurd will be a pro bowler.

 

[AboveAllNations]

Hurd has great acceleration while Henry has putrid acceleration. That is the separator between great backs and average ones.

Those giant holes won't exist in the pros. Henry will be another Bama bust. While Hurd will be a pro bowler.

Henry will be fine in the NFL, even if he lets himself go and turns into a bowling ball like Eddie Lacy. Look at his size compared to (Saints starter) Mark Ingram for goodness sake.

 

[HoptownVol]

I think Vereen will go in at least the first 3 rounds. Dudes a baller

Huh? Too small to play DE and untested at OLB. Free agent stamped all over him.

 

[HoptownVol]

Josh Dobbs had a glowing NFL evaluation after the 2014 South Carolina game from Bucky Brooks, and most websites still have him listed as a top-10 QB prospect for the 2017 draft:

NFL Draft - 2017 NFL Draft Prospects - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com (8th)

WalterFootball.com: 2017 NFL Draft: Quarterback Rankings (10th)

2017 NFL Qb draft Class | Eleven Warriors (8th)

Dobbs is obviously still a project, but he put up decent passing stats (15 TDs against just 5 INTs) against very strong competition this year despite a ton of injuries and suspensions at WR. Donovan McNabb had similar college stats running a triple-option offense at Syracuse, and he was taken 2nd overall. Hell, even Tim Tebow was a first round pick. All it takes is one team to fall in love with a high-character, high-ceiling prospect like Dobbs.

With a bigger year next year, Dobbs could definitely be an early or mid-round draft selection.

McNabb and Tebow are two of the best college QBs I've ever seen. Cant say that about Dobbs.