2016 Game by game predictions

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No way you play Bama 3 times in a season....JMO. You guys are a shoe in to win the East and meeting Bama for a 2nd time in the Championship game. But I believe regardless of the results of the regular season matchup...who wins the game in Championship game between you will determine the CFB Playoff...or New Year 6 bowl.

I originally thought you guys would lose 2 games this year, Bama being 1 and a toss-up between Georgia and TA&M. After evaluation of the camps, I believe you still lose 2 games, but they will be to VT and Bama. Some will say I am delusional, but that's what I think is gonna happen. Anyways, take care of business, win the East, beat Bama in the Championship game and your in!

You don't know who your QB is going to be. You have serious questions and likely talent deficiencies in your OL. You're installing a new O system. You are replacing the most productive players from a bad D.

BUT... you've looked at the "camps" and rationalized a VT win?

Football is a funny game where the more talented team doesn't always win.... but UT has an advantage in every match up in talent, skill, and depth.

I am curious how your views of the "camps" has led you to a different conclusion.
 
#28
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Lordy lordy. You're the VTech fan if I remember.

Ohio State slept on you all a few years ago. They took you lightly. Tennessee lost badly last time we played VT. PLUS its going to be thr biggest college football game ever played so best believe we will not be sleeping on the Hokies.

FSU and Clemson are the only teams comparable to Tennessee in talent in your conference.

Louisville
North Carolina
are the 2nd tier.

VTech falls somewhere after that.
There are 5 other teams on our schedule better than VTech. We're not losing 6 games.....

You and everyone else feel the same way I guess. Mandel on ESPN even predicted we are 6-6 on the year and we have a bare roster. Im not asking anyone to believe me, Im just going to tell you the facts...we match up good with your players..plain and simple. VT might lose to Vols....no question...but we will be better then any "expert" predicts. I assure you 10 wins + for this VT team.
 
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You don't know who your QB is going to be. You have serious questions and likely talent deficiencies in your OL. You're installing a new O system. You are replacing the most productive players from a bad D.

BUT... you've looked at the "camps" and rationalized a VT win?

Football is a funny game where the more talented team doesn't always win.... but UT has an advantage in every match up in talent, skill, and depth.

I am curious how your views of the "camps" has led you to a different conclusion.

True on the QB situation...but they will all 3 produce. Our OL is one of the best in the ACC this year...they all have experience. New Fuente Offense will score more points then we have ever had. Most productive players on D..come on..Maddy was out several games last year with busted knee, Nicolas had a cast on his hand for 9 games...sacks from them were way way down. K Fuller didn't eve play the last 9 games of the season cause of injury. Most everyone else was Freshman or Sophomore forced into action. Now they have game experience.

The camp films I have seen from you tube, snap chat, other videos...VT is being productive on film. Way better then I envisioned at the beginning of camp. We will score and score often. D will be great this year.

Matchups...all football games are games of matchups. Not always does the best team win. We match up well with your personnel...IMO
 
#30
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I think we should turn the table round and look at it from the opposite angle. UT has a difficult 4 game stretch. Each of those teams is likely to be breaking in a new QB. Bama replaces half their starters.... with good back ups... but then they have to replace those guys to have the depth they've had. UGA has a coaching change and its own set of issues in the front 7 and passing game. UF has thin spots and plenty of questions on O.

Health and depth are the keys. If UT can manage to come out of UF, UGA, and TAM without significant injuries then they can pour everything out vs Bama. UF is critical. Lose and the Vols are facing two tough road trips with high pressure. Win and much of the pressure is off.

The other factor is Shoop. I have been on board with him since his name was announced and if it "works".... UT has a critical and powerful piece of the puzzle for beating all 4 of those teams.


I think there is reason to be optimistic about UT's chances of running that 4 game stretch.

I agree with your thinking there is reason to be optimistic about our chances in that 4 game stretch even if one isn't in Colorado BUT could you recount for us how many of the teams we lost to last year had a 1st year starter as a QB? Wasn't it 3 out of the 4? And didn't 2 of those have band new offensive coordinators - and I think one played without an offensive line to speak of. I mean seriously - well not seriously, but still, I'm not thinking we beat one of or all of those guys because of their "potential" for weaknesses but rather because of our "potential" for strengths. :hi:
 
#31
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True on the QB situation...but they will all 3 produce.
Your faith in this may make you feel warm and fuzzy but good teams exposed Motley and the fact that the young guy has climbed into the competition does anything BUT suggest that the other two are producing.

Our OL is one of the best in the ACC this year...they all have experience.
Did you have some players transfer in? In the ACC, you were 11th in rushing O, 11th in sacks allowed, 9th in tackles for loss allowed,.... They may have experience but those results suggest they lack talent.

New Fuente Offense will score more points then we have ever had.
Another faith statement based on absolutely nothing.

And.... you still haven't addressed the fact that UT will players with a greater composite of athleticism, skill, and experience in every match up.

Most productive players on D..come on..Maddy was out several games last year with busted knee, Nicolas had a cast on his hand for 9 games...sacks from them were way way down.
Maddy played in 13 games and if he was 4th on your team in tackles while playing on a gimpy knee then you have even deeper problems than I knew.

K Fuller didn't eve play the last 9 games of the season cause of injury. Most everyone else was Freshman or Sophomore forced into action. Now they have game experience.
Ah... so the quality of your D comes down to a single DB returning from injury??

The camp films I have seen from you tube, snap chat, other videos...VT is being productive on film. Way better then I envisioned at the beginning of camp. We will score and score often. D will be great this year.
You do understand that those things are VT playing against VT, right? The worst teams in the country can make the same claim right now. Either their D is better than ever, O is unstoppable, or they have balance like never before.

Matchups...all football games are games of matchups. Not always does the best team win. We match up well with your personnel...IMO

That's just it... you don't. You don't at all.

You are rebuilding a not so good front 7 and matched up against the SEC's 2nd best rushing attack led by a QB who will set the rushing record for UT QB's and a RB who will do the same for RB's. You have DB's.

You have a very mediocre OL going up against a talented and deep UT front 7 that features the best group of DE's in the country. Your QB regardless of who it is will be harassed and throwing into the most talented and overall experienced secondary that UT has had since at least the early 00's and perhaps going back to 98.

You simply DON'T match up athletically.... at all.
 
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#32
#32
I agree with your thinking there is reason to be optimistic about our chances in that 4 game stretch even if one isn't in Colorado BUT could you recount for us how many of the teams we lost to last year had a 1st year starter as a QB? Wasn't it 3 out of the 4?
Frankly, I am putting a lot of stock into two things in that regard. UT's depth, talent, and experience on D.... and SHOOP. Was Jancek ever better than a mid-major DC? I think the answer can be found in his current position title.

And didn't 2 of those have band new offensive coordinators - and I think one played without an offensive line to speak of. I mean seriously - well not seriously, but still, I'm not thinking we beat one of or all of those guys because of their "potential" for weaknesses but rather because of our "potential" for strengths. :hi:

I just said there was reason for optimism.... I didn't predict it would happen.
 
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No way you play Bama 3 times in a season....JMO. You guys are a shoe in to win the East and meeting Bama for a 2nd time in the Championship game. But I believe regardless of the results of the regular season matchup...who wins the game in Championship game between you will determine the CFB Playoff...or New Year 6 bowl.... unless Bama loses.

Fixed it for you.

I take it you haven't seen how this program works?:)

Bama could lose to Tennessee on October 15th, and lose in the SECCG and my bet would be they would be in, if they ran the tables on the West and maybe even one additional loss. What happens if Tennessee losses 2 games and yet beats Bama in the SECCG, my bet, Bama gets in and the Vols don't.

If Bama was at best tied for 3rd in the SEC in 2011 and got into the NCG with only two teams, how do you think this is going to work with four teams.

Very good chance Bama gets in unless they lose 3+ games and it doesn't matter how many times the Vols beat them. It doesn't matter if they don't even make it to the SECCG, that is exactly what happened in 2011.
 
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#34
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Signature wins are not easy when u dont have depth. This should be an exciting year. Our players want it, just as bad as we do. Dont see that to often

YES! Someone sees the major issue last yr. It was lack of depth, not coaching, not choking, etc. That shouldn't be a problem this yr unless a boatload of injuries occur. CBJ and staff have a lot more players this yr.
 
#35
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Fixed it for you.

I take it you haven't seen how this program works?:)

Bama could lose to Tennessee on October 15th, and lose in the SECCG and my bet would be they would be in, if they ran the tables on the West and maybe even one additional loss. What happens if Tennessee losses 2 games and yet beats Bama in the SECCG, my bet, Bama gets in and the Vols don't.

If Bama was at best tied for 3rd in the SEC in 2011 and got into the NCG with only two teams, how do you think this is going to work with four teams.

Very good chance Bama gets in unless they lose 3+ games and it doesn't matter how many times the Vols beat them.

Bama hasn't run the West since 2009 with lot better teams than they will field this yr. if Tenn beats them 10/15, they won't be in SECCG.
 
#36
#36
Way I see it:
Beat Florida and UT has a letdown and loses to a *gasp* new coach and fresh QB. Rebound by beating a, once again, overrated A&M and lose a heart breaker to Bama.

It's sinking in now. I'm good with 11-1 with an UGA letdown.
 
#37
#37
Bama hasn't run the West since 2009 with lot better teams than they will field this yr. if Tenn beats them 10/15, they won't be in SECCG.

I only see three teams that stand in the way the Vols, Tigers and Rebels.

Vols run the tables but lose to Bama (2 loss) in the SECCG, Bama gets in, Vols don't.... Bama clears the table but loses to the Vols (1 loss) in the SECCG... Bama gets in and the Vols still sit. :)

The 4-team format is the appearance of having the teams decide on the field, but that is just a fiction. Its to make sure a team isn't exclude that they want in it. The conference champion decides it on the field, there is no reason to consider two teams from the same conference..... but as I said, they want to select the teams they want in.

Here you go.... Vols loses to Bama, LSU beats Bama, Vols beat LSU in the SECCG.... Bama in... Vols sitting at home my bet.:) Bama would be a 1 loss team, tied for 3rd in the SEC and I seriously doubt they allow 3 teams from the SEC. It's not really any different than what happen in 2011 on a certain level.

Say you have this:

Vols 12-1 wins East (wins SECCG)
Tigers 12-1 wins West (loses SECCG)
Little Nicky 11-1 2nd place in West (tied for 3rd in SEC only lost to a top 3 LSU)

Who sits and who goes? My guess, no way Tigers goes and probably the Vols sit as well.
 
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#39
#39
If we lose a game, hope its 11-1 with a loss to aTm. That game means nothing to me versus Bama, Fl and GA
 
#40
#40
If we lose a game, hope its 11-1 with a loss to aTm. That game means nothing to me versus Bama, Fl and GA

I hope the Vols piledrive them as well. :) I actually like Sumlin, just can't stand whatever it is they are doing, completely hate that kind of football.
 
#41
#41
They had the same record as we had last year in the regular season. We had 4 common opponents, AL, AR, SC, & Vandy. They won one more of those than we did. They beat Arky on a neutral site. Their defense improved from last in the conference in 2014 to one notch below us in 2015. Their passing game imploded last year against the better teams in the west. Knight is still sort of a media darling because of his sugar bowl performance against Bama in 2013. Their 2 5-star QB busts are gone and Knight has rode in to save the day. The west is still perceived as the better half of the SEC. The defense should be even better in year 2 with Chavis and they have a boat load of blue chip talent. The game is in their house so 12th man and all that. - Probably some of that BS is coloring their better judgment. :)

I think we should win but I also think it will be one of our tougher games, Alabama and Georgia being the other two really tough challenges.

The common denominator of Sumlin is still there, though. I think he's overrated and has been since Johnny Football departed. Picking up Mazzone was a smart move, but he's still in year zero at the moment.

A Chavis defense is never something to scoff at, I agree. However, ATM got blown out in a few games last year and barely beat others.

There's a lot of negative to go with your thoughts on the matter.
 
#42
#42
Say you have this:

Vols 12-1 wins East (wins SECCG)
Tigers 12-1 wins West (loses SECCG)
Little Nicky 11-1 2nd place in West (tied for 3rd in SEC only lost to a top 3 LSU)

Who sits and who goes? My guess, no way Tigers goes and probably the Vols sit as well.

There is no way in creation an 11-1 Bama gets into the playoffs over a 12-1 SEC Champion. This isn't the computer ratings this time around.
 
#43
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The common denominator of Sumlin is still there, though. I think he's overrated and has been since Johnny Football departed. Picking up Mazzone was a smart move, but he's still in year zero at the moment.

A Chavis defense is never something to scoff at, I agree. However, ATM got blown out in a few games last year and barely beat others.

There's a lot of negative to go with your thoughts on the matter.

I don't see ATM being all that. I think we dominate this game. I think they hit low before we come to play...
 
#44
#44
Your faith in this may make you feel warm and fuzzy but good teams exposed Motley and the fact that the young guy has climbed into the competition does anything BUT suggest that the other two are producing.

Did you have some players transfer in? In the ACC, you were 11th in rushing O, 11th in sacks allowed, 9th in tackles for loss allowed,.... They may have experience but those results suggest they lack talent.

Another faith statement based on absolutely nothing.

And.... you still haven't addressed the fact that UT will players with a greater composite of athleticism, skill, and experience in every match up.

Maddy played in 13 games and if he was 4th on your team in tackles while playing on a gimpy knee then you have even deeper problems than I knew.

Ah... so the quality of your D comes down to a single DB returning from injury??

You do understand that those things are VT playing against VT, right? The worst teams in the country can make the same claim right now. Either their D is better than ever, O is unstoppable, or they have balance like never before.



That's just it... you don't. You don't at all.

You are rebuilding a not so good front 7 and matched up against the SEC's 2nd best rushing attack led by a QB who will set the rushing record for UT QB's and a RB who will do the same for RB's. You have DB's.

You have a very mediocre OL going up against a talented and deep UT front 7 that features the best group of DE's in the country. Your QB regardless of who it is will be harassed and throwing into the most talented and overall experienced secondary that UT has had since at least the early 00's and perhaps going back to 98.

You simply DON'T match up athletically.... at all.

So basically you are stating that a 3 or 4 star VT player lines up against a 3 or 4 star Vol player....the Vol player is more athletic?? OK..that makes since!

Keep thinking the OL will be mediocre because of last year. A year more experienced goes a long way in D1 football.

I believe you guys will have the advantage in the QB, RB spots on offense... period. We will have the advantage in the WR, TE spots. I would call it a push on the OL. DL is a little more complicated because of scheme but I think our D-line will be crazy good this year. Our DB's will be a force also. I do think the Vols are better in the Safety spot though. Gonna be a heck of a ball game.
 
#45
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True on the QB situation...but they will all 3 produce. Our OL is one of the best in the ACC this year...they all have experience. New Fuente Offense will score more points then we have ever had. Most productive players on D..come on..Maddy was out several games last year with busted knee, Nicolas had a cast on his hand for 9 games...sacks from them were way way down. K Fuller didn't eve play the last 9 games of the season cause of injury. Most everyone else was Freshman or Sophomore forced into action. Now they have game experience.

The camp films I have seen from you tube, snap chat, other videos...VT is being productive on film. Way better then I envisioned at the beginning of camp. We will score and score often. D will be great this year.

Matchups...all football games are games of matchups. Not always does the best team win. We match up well with your personnel...IMO

Im just curious where you think yall match up well? Rb? Qb? Defensive backs? Where?
 
#46
#46
So basically you are stating that a 3 or 4 star VT player lines up against a 3 or 4 star Vol player....the Vol player is more athletic?? OK..that makes since!

Keep thinking the OL will be mediocre because of last year. A year more experienced goes a long way in D1 football.

I believe you guys will have the advantage in the QB, RB spots on offense... period. We will have the advantage in the WR, TE spots. I would call it a push on the OL. DL is a little more complicated because of scheme but I think our D-line will be crazy good this year. Our DB's will be a force also. I do think the Vols are better in the Safety spot though. Gonna be a heck of a ball game.

It's not about 3-4 stars vs 3-4 stars. Alot do not pan out and some play out of their heads. Cam Sutton was a 3 star but could hold his own against most dbs in the country. As far as the d-line, it is about scheme but it's also the players you have in that scheme. Your oline may be great during the season but I don't think they will look good against UT. They may give up 5 or 6 sacks to this group. The speed off the line will be hard for your tackles to handle which will lead to double teams and inside guys getting through.
 
#47
#47
So basically you are stating that a 3 or 4 star VT player lines up against a 3 or 4 star Vol player....the Vol player is more athletic?? OK..that makes since!
No. I'm telling you that UT has depth and talent if not experience advantages at every match up. ALL of them. You played neither of the best two teams in the ACC last year and were still a middling team. You literally didn't beat a single team that was worth a dime. Your "best" win was vs 7-6 NCSU.

Your OL couldn't block ECU or Pitt or Miami or Duke or Boston College or UNC or UVA.... but you're going to dominate the deepest and most talented DL you've seen since at least tOSU last year? If the guys returning had been 1st or 2nd year players last year then you'd have a more credible point. They weren't. As players approach their potential, improvement becomes less and more difficult to come by.

Oh, and for what little it is actually worth, UT has a BUNCH more 4* and 5* players than VT.

You lost 7 starters from a bad defense. So the back ups step up and are replaced by....?

Sorry if you're in denial but it will get worse before it gets better.

Keep thinking the OL will be mediocre because of last year. A year more experienced goes a long way in D1 football.
Experience helps... but only goes as far as the talent goes. See above.

I believe you guys will have the advantage in the QB, RB spots on offense... period. We will have the advantage in the WR, TE spots. I would call it a push on the OL. DL is a little more complicated because of scheme but I think our D-line will be crazy good this year. Our DB's will be a force also. I do think the Vols are better in the Safety spot though. Gonna be a heck of a ball game.
None of this is true and even if it were.... it wouldn't matter. UT's OL will not line up vs VT's OL. UT's OL will line up against a rebuilt front 7. Last time the returnees from your DL played, they were getting embarrassed by Tulsa. The last time UT's OL played, they were mauling the then #13 D in the country.

Your O returns 4 OL's from an OL that wasn't very good. UT's front 7 returns 6 starters and every key back up. UT goes about 7 deep at DE with guys who could legitimately start in the SEC.

We can go down the line on every position group the same way.

Lastly, you return 13 starters from a 7-6 team that played the 44th most difficult schedule in the country. UT was 9-4 against the 13th ranked schedule which included 2 of the four playoff teams... who the Vols lost to by a total of 12 points.... and returns 17 starters most of whom have played since they were Fr.


I'm still waiting for you to show where and how your team has an advantage at any match up. The closest would be your secondary vs UT's WR's. But even there.... UT has a talent advantage.
 
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No. I'm telling you that UT has depth and talent if not experience advantages at every match up. ALL of them. You played neither of the best two teams in the ACC last year and were still a middling team. You literally didn't beat a single team that was worth a dime. Your "best" win was vs 7-6 NCSU.

Your OL couldn't block ECU or Pitt or Miami or Duke or Boston College or UNC or UVA.... but you're going to dominate the deepest and most talented DL you've seen since at least tOSU last year? If the guys returning had been 1st or 2nd year players last year then you'd have a more credible point. They weren't. As players approach their potential, improvement becomes less and more difficult to come by.

Oh, and for what little it is actually worth, UT has a BUNCH more 4* and 5* players than VT.

You lost 7 starters from a bad defense. So the back ups step up and are replaced by....?

Sorry if you're in denial but it will get worse before it gets better.

Experience helps... but only goes as far as the talent goes. See above.


None of this is true and even if it were.... it wouldn't matter. UT's OL will not line up vs VT's OL. UT's OL will line up against a rebuilt front 7. Last time the returnees from your DL played, they were getting embarrassed by Tulsa. The last time UT's OL played, they were mauling the then #13 D in the country.

Your O returns 4 OL's from an OL that wasn't very good. UT's front 7 returns 6 starters and every key back up. UT goes about 7 deep at DE with guys who could legitimately start in the SEC.

We can go down the line on every position group the same way.

Lastly, you return 13 starters from a 7-6 team that played the 44th most difficult schedule in the country. UT was 9-4 against the 13th ranked schedule which included 2 of the four playoff teams... who the Vols lost to by a total of 12 points.... and returns 17 starters most of whom have played since they were Fr.


I'm still waiting for you to show where and how your team has an advantage at any match up. The closest would be your secondary vs UT's WR's. But even there.... UT has a talent advantage.

Ok ..so it seems what ever I say, you will not agree and I never said dominate your D as you state above...

You and everyone else will see this team on September 10th. I am sure to bet that on Sept 11th there will be 1 of2 things happening here on this forum. You will either be in full meltdown mode because yall lost...or you win and will be saying wow, never expected that game to be so close.

Once I get the "rights" to post a topic (I think at 100 comments) I will detail our depth chart, strengths and weaknesses for you all to see.
 
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Ok ..so it seems what ever I say, you will not agree and I never said dominate your D as you state above...
If you prove something then I'll agree or at least respect your disagreement.

You can look at this game from statistics, talent, experience, the competition they've played, number of games played.... however you like. Every way I've looked at it.... UT has the advantage.

Football is a funny game and sometimes the better team loses. But you're making statements of faith. That's all well and good but when you post them in a place like this.... you should expect to have your faith challenged.

You and everyone else will see this team on September 10th. I am sure to bet that on Sept 11th there will be 1 of2 things happening here on this forum. You will either be in full meltdown mode because yall lost...or you win and will be saying wow, never expected that game to be so close.
Or... you'll go down the same path as Iowa, Utah State, Northwestern, et al.

OU fans gave UT more respect LAST year than you do this year. You are VERY much like Utah State fans from a couple of years ago.... and they did have a good team that had had recent success.

You have had 4 mediocre seasons and haven't recruited as well as in the past likely because of speculation about Beamer and by extension Foster.

Give Fuente time.... but don't get your hopes up on this one.

Once I get the "rights" to post a topic (I think at 100 comments) I will detail our depth chart, strengths and weaknesses for you all to see.

You can do that here and maybe a moderator or one of the rest of us will start a thread for you.

I've looked at your team a good bit. I've watched several games and will watch more. From that angle as well.... VT simply doesn't compare well.

Just like I told a Northwestern fan last December who much like you was into "just wait, you'll see". UT is bigger, stronger, and faster than your team. And it isn't that close.
 
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You and everyone else feel the same way I guess. Mandel on ESPN even predicted we are 6-6 on the year and we have a bare roster. Im not asking anyone to believe me, Im just going to tell you the facts...we match up good with your players..plain and simple. VT might lose to Vols....no question...but we will be better then any "expert" predicts. I assure you 10 wins + for this VT team.

8 wins tops for VaTch

You have some speed, but we are a physical football team with very good speed.

And we have depth on the d- line.

We also are one of the best uptempo teams in college ball.
 
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