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VolsButch98 said:
This is 100% false. His campaign is about ending the corruption of the Obama administration and the extreme coddling of the poor that has become commonplace in our country. Obama has encouraged the divisiveness in our country, and it will only get worse with Clinton or Sanders as president.
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What you are describing seems like you should be leaning toward a vote for Ted Cruz not Trump.

Trump is pushing hate. Look at his language against women (ugly, stupid) Mexicans (Rapists) Muslims (Terrorists) making fun of handicapped guy cause he disagrees with him, saying McCain was not a hero because he was captured, we can go on and on,... That is why the Republican party Leaders are not embracing him and white Supremacist groups are.
 
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LOL I think most people understand that his comment about punching someone throwing tomatoes was bombast. More importantly, it had nothing to do with the leftist mob that showed up in Chicago of all places.

This was a well coordinated event to shut a candidate event down because they don't agree with his message. His message at times may be divisive, but that doesn't make him responsible for their violence.
 
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DC_Vol said:
LOL I think most people understand that his comment about punching someone throwing tomatoes was bombast. More importantly, it had nothing to do with the leftist mob that showed up in Chicago of all places.

This was a well coordinated event to shut a candidate event down because they don't agree with his message. His message at times may be divisive, but that doesn't make him responsible for their violence.
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You're rationalizing just like he did the other night. As I said before, there is plenty of blame to go around and there is no way Trump can be absolved of it entirely.
 
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Gramps said:
Kasich has now came out and placed the blame on the Trump Rhetoric for this uproar in Chicago.

Most on here say this will not harm Trump, however Cruc, Kasich and Rubio are using this against Trump. Some of the media is also saying Trump is blame.

We shall see what the political outcome of this is.

I am in the minority on the forum, or was last night. I still think this this hurts Trump. IMO, this shows the division his presidency could bring to America. Being blamed for rioting in America cannot be good for a presidential campaign, however the 2016 election is like no other election the ole man has ever seen.
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Gramps I 100% agree with you.
 
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Trump walks down the steps, strolls across the tarmac, steps up to the microphone, grabs his junk and gives the world the finger. Love it or hate it, that's who he is.
 
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Grand Vol said:
You're rationalizing just like he did the other night. As I said before, there is plenty of blame to go around and there is no way Trump can be absolved of it entirely.
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I see people curating select clips of trumps speech to rationalize the actions of the mob that shut down a political event.
 
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There's a clip of one side of the road calling the other side Nazi's and a clip of the other side calling the others Communists.
 
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DC_Vol said:
I see people curating select clips of trumps speech to rationalize the actions of the mob that shut down a political event.
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He's not the first candidate to be shut down though. Where were the trump supporters at when the BLM shut down Sanders? There is a place and time for protesting and inside the rally shouldn't be a place imo. But at the same time Trump spreads hate and singles our select groups, so he brings a lot of it to himself.
 
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DC_Vol said:
I see people curating select clips of trumps speech to rationalize the actions of the mob that shut down a political event.
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You're focusing on a singular event. I'm focused on the entirety of the campaign. And in a tit for tat political world, this was going to happen sooner rather than later.

For what it's worth, I agree this mob was entirely in the wrong last night. But sometimes you reap what you sew by setting to tone to escalate things.
 
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I'm just wondering how long it's going to be before a group of Trump supporters does the same thing at a Hillary or Bernie rally...

You know there's someone out there thinking about it right now.
 
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Grand Vol said:
I'm just wondering how long it's going to be before a group of Trump supporters does the same thing at a Hillary or Bernie rally...

You know there's someone out there thinking about it right now.
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I wonder what would happen if the NRA and the Koch brothers organized a protest where people illegally infiltrated a Bernie rally to protest, waved Nazi Germany flags, chanted "Trump", and hurled abuse at rally-goers.
 
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People said in the past they think someone could be killed at a Trump rally in the future. If tonight and what happened just now continue I don't doubt it. What happens when a protester tries to rush the podium and the Secret Service ends up doing their job and put bullets into them in that scenario, what then? How would the President and people react?
 
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lawgator1 said:
As to number 6, it's the reverse. The forces of Evil wanted more clashes to blame on the protestors.

I think it's pretty obvious both sides were out of control. I think Trump is largely to blame, but honestly does not understand it.

He thinks he's being funny when he talks about wanting to punch people in the face, or angrily throw them out, or take them out on a stretcher. I really don't think he understands the effect he is having on people with those comments.
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Who pays for a Trump rally?
Oh that's right he does. It's a meeting or rally for HIS supporters. What in the hell gives these rent a mobs the right to go INSIDE and disrupt THEIR event? They have every right to protest outside but not inside of a paid venue. I'd say the exact same thing if people disrupted a Sanders event. You libs cannot have it both ways on freedom of speech.
 
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Stoked said:
He's not the first candidate to be shut down though. Where were the trump supporters at when the BLM shut down Sanders? There is a place and time for protesting and inside the rally shouldn't be a place imo. But at the same time Trump spreads hate and singles our select groups, so he brings a lot of it to himself.
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My point is this is the way the left operates. If it wasn't Trump in the lead, the same would be done to Cruz.

Spreading hate is a subjective turn and the same argument could be made for Bernie or Obama. CEOs and Wall Street types can be demonizes and it's perfectly acceptable.

In no way would you or anyone else excuse mob behavior from conservatives or go so far as to say the messenger is to blame.

This is the MO of the left. Their angry mobs are always righteous and it's up to the messenger to stop inciting them.
 
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Grand Vol said:
You're focusing on a singular event. I'm focused on the entirety of the campaign. And in a tit for tat political world, this was going to happen sooner rather than later.

For what it's worth, I agree this mob was entirely in the wrong last night. But sometimes you reap what you sew by setting to tone to escalate things.
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While my example may have been focused on a singular event, my point is not. This is the standard tactic of leftists and I get tired of the message getting the blame.

I've heard trump for the last year and never had the takeaway that he was inciting violence. Now, to justify it people are selectively curating lines from his events to rationalize it.

It's ludicrous and I'm not going to join the chorus of mob apologists.
 
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