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Gramps said:
I agree with Hog, I don't think it will happen.

From what I have read the GOP nor Dems want the truth to come out. It appears Reagan, the Bush's and Clinton all were involved in drug trafficking through the Mena Airport.
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Well aren't you a Debbie Downer. :)

Reagan, to my knowledge had no part in it. Bush was director of the cia during this time and had to have knowledge of it. They flipped the ole boy to an informant.

The clintons are the ones who orchestrated it.
 
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Obsessed said:
Well aren't you a Debbie Downer. :)

Reagan, to my knowledge had no part in it. Bush was director of the cia during this time and had to have knowledge of it. They flipped the ole boy to an informant.

The clintons are the ones who orchestrated it.
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I don't know Ob I just know what has been reported for years.

You are going back to the 1970's now. HW was CIA director during the Ford Administration.

As far as Reagan , it has been fairly well documented Mena was a key point in the CIA plane hauling drugs that crashed in Nicaragua.

Reagan, the Bush's nor the Clinton's have been angels.
 
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Carson is done. No one paying any attention to Bush. Looks like Rubio, Cruz, and Trump. Maybe Christie clinging to an outside shot.

I remain convinced Cruz blows up and his appeal is to too narrow a sliver of the electorate. I think at the end it's Trump and Rubio.
 
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The establishment republicans are definitely behind Rubio.

Of the Cubans, I prefer Cruz, but I think Trump is going to win the nomination and the Bolsheviks will run scared and they will pull out every dirty trick and every illegal vote at their disposal in order to try to defeat him next November.

OPERATION *******.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Carson is done. No one paying any attention to Bush. Looks like Rubio, Cruz, and Trump. Maybe Christie clinging to an outside shot.

I remain convinced Cruz blows up and his appeal is to too narrow a sliver of the electorate. I think at the end it's Trump and Rubio.
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You forgot Rand.

Don't want to risk garnering the ire of the Randfans.
 
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Cruz is the most dangerous candidate out there, in my opinion. He's an intelligent nutjob who could actually find ways to action his crazy. Rubio is likely the guy for the GOP.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Carson is done. No one paying any attention to Bush. Looks like Rubio, Cruz, and Trump. Maybe Christie clinging to an outside shot.

I remain convinced Cruz blows up and his appeal is to too narrow a sliver of the electorate. I think at the end it's Trump and Rubio.
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Joe Scarborough this morning was reporting Iowa is between Trump and Cruz, New Hampshire is between Christi and Trump. He thinks is Trump can pull out victory in both states he will be the nominee. He is saying Christi has a great ground game in NH and may win it.
 
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1972 Grad said:
Crazy in what way?
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Most of his crazy is on the social side. He's a right-wing theocrat, which on its own makes him scary. What's worse is the company he keeps, recently attending conferences with far right pastors who have supported killing gays. Now, this all may be snake oil but either way he's scary. If he really does have similar beliefs to these far right wingnuts he's been courting then he's carrying metric tons of crazy.
 
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gcbvol said:
Most of his crazy is on the social side. He's a right-wing theocrat, which on its own makes him scary. What's worse is the company he keeps, recently attending conferences with far right pastors who have supported killing gays. Now, this all may be snake oil but either way he's scary. If he really does have similar beliefs to these far right wingnuts he's been courting then he's carrying metric tons of crazy.
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Could you post a link to Cruz advocating killing gays?
 
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gcbvol said:
He hasn't to my knowledge, 72. He has, however, willingly associated with people who have. That is plenty enough for me.
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Willingly associate isn't enough to disqualify anyone to me, because I don't know the extent of "willingly associate." Show me a tape where he agrees with killing gays. Your imagination is running wild.

Did Obama's "willing association" with Rev. Wright (for 20 years)keep you from voting for him?
 
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gcbvol said:
Cruz is the most dangerous candidate out there, in my opinion. He's an intelligent nutjob who could actually find ways to action his crazy. Rubio is likely the guy for the GOP.
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Trump is more dangerous. Impulse scares me more than a theocrat in today's political climate.
 
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Cruz has been smart enough to court the social conservative vote instead of running from it. He's done the same thing with the pissed-off Trump voter and the pissed-off libertarian voter. He's assiduously managed to keep in touch with all segments of the anti-establishment vote...and that is the majority of Republican voters in this election.

The only people really against him are the ones who want to see things stay the way they are right now: Socialists, Crony Capitalists, and Bush/Rockefeller Republicans.

Tall order to go up against that. I have no doubt that the McConnell/Boehner types in the Republican Party will work for a Hillary Clinton victory if Cruz, Paul, Trump, or any of the other non-Country Club type wins the primaries.

They were going to throw the election for Carter back in 1980 until Reagan named Bush 41 as his running mate. This is how the "Governing Wing" of the GOP operates.

If he were to win, then Cruz will probably have to nominate a squish to appease this Surrender Wing of the GOP.
 
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1972 Grad said:
Willingly associate isn't enough to disqualify anyone to me, because I don't know the extent of "willingly associate." Show me a tape where he agrees with killing gays. Your imagination is running wild.

Did Obama's "willing association" with Rev. Wright (for 20 years)keep you from voting for him?
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Sorry, 72, it's the company you keep. You might feel differently if you were one of the folks the people he's pandering to want dead. Whether he fully agrees with these nuts or not, he has no scruples about working with them for political gain. That's a disqualifier in my book.
 
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T.N. Buckingham said:
Cruz has been smart enough to court the social conservative vote instead of running from it. He's done the same thing with the pissed-off Trump voter and the pissed-off libertarian voter. He's assiduously managed to keep in touch with all segments of the anti-establishment vote...and that is the majority of Republican voters in this election.

The only people really against him are the ones who want to see things stay the way they are right now: Socialists, Crony Capitalists, and Bush/Rockefeller Republicans.

Tall order to go up against that. I have no doubt that the McConnell/Boehner types in the Republican Party will work for a Hillary Clinton victory if Cruz, Paul, Trump, or any of the other non-Country Club type wins the primaries.

They were going to throw the election for Carter back in 1980 until Reagan named Bush 41 as his running mate. This is how the "Governing Wing" of the GOP operates.

If he were to win, then Cruz will probably have to nominate a squish to appease this Surrender Wing of the GOP.
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Very astute post.
 
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PKT_VOL said:
Trump is more dangerous. Impulse scares me more than a theocrat in today's political climate.
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I think Cruz is much more intelligent than Trump. I get the impulse concern, but I just don't know how much is snake oil salesman versus crazy with Cruz. He's smart enough and has enough salesman in him to be dangerous, imo.
 
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gcbvol said:
Sorry, 72, it's the company you keep. You might feel differently if you were one of the folks the people he's pandering to want dead. Whether he fully agrees with these nuts or not, he has no scruples about working with them for political gain. That's a disqualifier in my book.
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1) Who did he associate with that called for killing gays?

2) When did this person call for this?

3) When did Cruz associate with said perpetrator?

4) What was the extent of Cruz's association with said person?

5) Did Cruz say that he agreed with person's statements?


Now, did you vote for Obama knowing of his 20 year close association with Rev. Wright? I would assume that you know of Sen. Byrd of W.Va. being in the KKK, and I assume doing whatever it is that they do.

I also assume that you know that Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Al Gore, Joe Biden, Mike Dukakis , etc. all associated with him. Do you have a problem with those close associations? If not, you are being hypocritical at best.
 
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